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Calling for an End to Zionism

by Wendy Campbell
Zionism, which has always manifested itself as reverse discrimination and ethnic cleansing in Palestine-Israel, must be delegitimized as a viable political ideology, just as Nazism has been. Zionism is at the root of terrorism in the Middle East, and as any kind of racism, must be abolished. Just ending the Occupation is not enough. Ending Zionism is what will really bring an end to the turmoil in the Middle East, which has spilled out to affect the whole world.
Those who are against JUST the
> occupation from 1967, are missing the point.
>
> The point is that Zionsim, as it
> has always manifested itself, is racism. To try to create a Jewish supremacist
> state in a land that is naturally multi-cultural and
> naturally predominantly Arab
> Muslim is racist! And it necessitates ethnic cleansing! Ethnic cleansing
> can NEVER be justified!
>
> Obviously the two-state solution
> is certainly much, much better than the status quo, which is Israel
> battering Palestinians until they are totally subjugated
> or die or leave (ethnic cleansing
> and slow genocide).
>
> However, the one-state, a
> completely secular and democratic country with equal rights for all is
> really and truly the most humane and just solution of all.
> The two-state solution is still
> apartheid, in a land that is naturally multi-cultural.
>
> It CAN happen! And it can WORK!
> Look, South Africa remained one country after apartheid was ended-- it
> did not break up into one country for whites and
> one country for blacks. The same
> with even HERE in America!! We did not break up into two countries after
> the Civil War--- we remained ONE country and
> then finally ended segregation
> with the Civil Rights movement!
>
> It's really NOT FAIR or humane to
> expect Palestinians to just be happy with 22% of the land that was once
> THEIR ancestral homeland! NOBODY would
> settle for that--- why should the
> Palestinians??? At any rate, all Palestinian refugees, all 5 million of
> them, have the right to return to their ancestral
> homeland of Palestine-Israel as
> equals, as citizens, as is their right according to UN Resolutions,
> International Law and world opinion.
>
> I, for one, a 4th generation
> Christian American, do NOT want ANY of my tax money going to support any
> racist, anti-democratic apartheid country, which is
> what Israel has been, is now and is what it
> would even be with the two-state solution: it would still be a racist,
> theocracy, discriminating against non-Jews. And
> Jerusalem must remain a
> multicultural, international city as it always has been, NOT just a
> Jewish city.
by Liar
Pants on fire! Wendy Campbell is Wendy Campbell and I ought to know, because I am Wendy Campbell!
by Truth
No, you're Liar. And Wendy Campbell is a hatemonger reposting Nazi propaganda.
by TRUTH
Someone at Indymedia is a Zionist liar! Wendy Campbell has NO association with the National Alliance!
by Truth by Wendy
I will be calling Indymedia soon to talk to Mark about how a Zionist is working there and deleting my posts and saying that I am associated with the National Alliance!
by Wendy
Anti-Zionism is also anti-Nazism and also all racism.
Zionism is one of the last "isms" we need to invalidate and disallow. Zionism has always manifested itself in discrimination against non-Jews, and even in ethnic cleansing and slow genocide in Israel.

We, non-Jew Americans and some Jewish Americans do NOT want our tax dollars to support apartheid Israel!
by Truth
Wendy Campbell is anti-racism including anti-Zionism and anti-Nazism.
by PS
PS Wendy can think for herself. Her ideas and writing are completely original and arrived at after much research, discussion and thought, starting with http://www.cactus48.com.
by oXoXo
I've been following this conversation and think that it is useful to include the post in question. I think that regardless of where the post is from, it is important that we read and understand what it says.

PHILOLOGOS

The Skinny on 'Semitism'
Can one be anti-Israel without being antisemitic? Lately, this question has been cropping up more and more — in the media, in public exchanges and in many a private conversation. It calls for serious thought, the first task of which is to disentangle it from its terminology.

Antisemitism is indeed not only an unfortunate phenomenon, but by universal admission an unfortunate term. Its origins are clearly documented. It was coined in 1879 by the German journalist Wilhelm Marr, the author of a book called "The Victory of Judaism Over Germanism." In that year Marr, in step with the swelling tide of anti-Jewish feeling in Germany, founded his Bund der Antisemiten or "Antisemitic League." The term caught on immediately. In 1881 an "Antisemitic Petition" bearing 225,000 signatures was presented to Chancellor Otto von Bismarck, and by 1882 there was an official "Anti-Semitic Party" in Germany that won several seats in the Reichstag.

Why did the German word Antisemitismus so quickly replace the older Judenfeindschaft, or "Jew-hatred," and spread to other European languages as well? The answer lies in the growing propagation in late-19th-century Europe of a pseudo-Darwinian racial ideology that, dividing the world's population into various "biologically" definable groups of which the "Aryan" was deemed the most advanced and fittest to survive, relegated Jews and blacks to the bottom of the ladder. The problem was, however, that Jews could not be "scientifically" considered a separate race in themselves. After all, they originally came from the Middle East, where, like all other Middle Easterners, to whom they bore many resemblances, they had spoken a Semitic language — in their case, Hebrew. "Racially," therefore, they had to be considered "Semites," thus making anyone who opposed them or considered them inferior on racial rather than strictly religious grounds an "anti-Semite."

That this word is nonsensical has often been observed, not only by physical anthropologists who point out that there is no such thing as a "Semitic" (or, for that matter, "Aryan") race, the inhabitants of the Middle East being a mixture of many different racial stocks, but also by the Arab world, which has argued rather disingenuously that, since it is "Semitic" itself, it cannot possibly be "anti-Semitic." For this reason, some writers and publications, including the Forward, have preferred to spell the word as "antisemitism." As the Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer has put it:

"Anti-Semitism" is altogether an absurd construction, since there is no such thing as 'Semitism' to which it might be opposed. In German... there is no hyphen, and the word has no precise meaning, although its connotations are well understood.

And if "antisemitism" is a confusing way of referring to a hater of Jews, "Israel" can be an ambiguous way of referring to a Jewish state. This is not only because, historically, "Israel" both is and is not a recognized name for the Jewish people (various Christian groups in the past and present have also thought of themselves as "Israel"), but also because, in today's usage, "Israeli" can mean either a specifically Jewish citizen of Israel or any citizen of Israel at all. For example, in the sentence "Israelis should make peace with the Palestinians," it is clear that "Israelis" means Jews living in Israel as opposed to Palestinians living in Israel. On the other hand, in the sentence "All Israelis should have equal rights," one is obviously including Palestinians living in Israel.

On purely linguistic grounds, therefore, the relationship between "antisemitic" and "anti-Israel" seems unclear. It might have been clearer had the founders of the Bund der Antisemiten called themselves "Jew-haters" rather than "antisemites," and had the founders of the Jewish state called it "Jewland" rather than "Israel," in the same way that we have England, Ireland, Finland and Poland. One cannot, after all, be an enemy of Ireland but not of the Irish, or of Poland but not of the Poles, and to claim that one hated Ireland but was not anti-Irish because one had nothing against the Irish in America, just as many haters of Israel declare that they are not antisemitic because they have nothing against Jews elsewhere in the world, would strike most people as hair-splitting.

But of course the question is not merely a linguistic one. The argument has been made, and it seems to me a good one, that what ultimately needs to be asked is not whether one can theoretically be anti-Israel but not antisemitic but whether, practically speaking, one's criticisms of Israel reflect a double standard or not. If a person bitterly attacked Israel for its treatment of Palestinians, but also similarly attacked China for its treatment of Tibetans, Russia for its treatment of the Chechens and India for its treatment of the Kashmiris, I would not attribute the criticism to antisemitism even though Israel has far more justification for its actions than any of these countries. If, on the other hand, the same person singled out only or mainly Israel for criticism, an antisemite is what he or she is. That's the bottom line.

by wendy
Israel is the NUMBER 1 recipient of U.S. foreign aid. Egypt is #2 and it is "hush" money to keep them quiet about Israel's aggression against the Palestinians and confiscation of their land.

We have many right-wing Zionist Jews in our congress and dominating our U.S. foreign affairs, notably Abrams, Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Rumsfeld and others. NOTE: We don't have any Tibetan Buddhist politicians or Afghan Muslims in high places in our U.S. goverment.

Zionist Jews have the largest, richest and most influential lobby groups in America and over 126 PACs.

The U.S. is usually the ONLY country to veto or abstain from voting on UN Resolutions that condemn Israeli war crimes against humanity.

Israel has defied over 80 UN resolutions (compare that to Iraq has defied 16).

And so on.... We obviously need to prioratize things, and we need to start where the biggest problem is in the world today threatening world peace---- Israel, enabled by our U.S government giving to Israel billions of our tax dollars and looking the other way while Israel continues on its long-running ethnic cleansing campaign of non-Jewish Palestinians. We, the people, say no more of our tax dollars to racist, apartheid Israel!!!
by sidney
Brigadier General Says Israel
Is The Problem, Not Iraq
By James J. David Retired Brigadier General
From RePortersNoteBook.com
1-7-3

Note - James J. David is a retired Brigadier General and a graduate of the U.S. Army's Command and General Staff College, and the National Security Course, National Defense University, Washington, DC. He served as a Company Commander with the 101st Airborne Division in the Republic of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970 and also served nearly 3 years of Army active duty in and around the Middle East from 1967-1969.

Question: Which country alone in the Middle East has nuclear weapons? Answer: Israel.

Q: Which country in the Middle East refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and bars international inspections? Answer: Israel.

Q: Which country in the Middle East seized the sovereign territory of other nations by military force and continues to occupy it in defiance of United Nations Security Council resolutions? Answer: Israel.

Q: Which country in the Middle East routinely violates the international borders of another sovereign state with warplanes and artillery and naval gunfire? Answer: Israel.

Q: What American ally in the Middle East has for years sent assassins into other countries to kill its political enemies (a practice sometimes called exporting terrorism)? Answer: Israel.

Q: In which country in the Middle East have high-ranking military officers admitted publicly that unarmed prisoners of war were executed? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to prosecute its soldiers who have acknowledged executing prisoners of war? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country in the Middle East created 762,000 refugees and refuses to allow them to return to their homes, farms and businesses? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country in the Middle East refuses to pay compensation to people whose land, bank accounts and businesses it confiscated? Answer: Israel.

Q: In what country in the Middle East was a high-ranking United Nations diplomat assassinated? Answer: Israel.

Q: In what country in the Middle East did the man who ordered the assassination of a high-ranking U.N. diplomat become prime minister? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country in the Middle East blew up an American diplomatic facility in Egypt and attacked a U.S. ship, the USS Liberty, in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171 American sailors? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country in the Middle East employed a spy, Jonathan Pollard, to steal classified documents and then gave some of them to the Soviet Union? Answer: Israel.

Q: What country at first denied any official connection to Pollard, then voted to make him a citizen and has continuously demanded that the American president grant Pollard a full pardon? Answer: Israel.

Q. What Middle East country allows American Jewish murderers to flee to its country to escape punishment in the United States and refuses to extradite them once in their custody? Answer: Israel

Q. What Middle East country preaches against hate yet builds a shrine and a memorial for a murderer who killed 29 Palestinians while they prayed in their Mosque. Answer: Israel

Q: What country on Planet Earth has the second most powerful lobby in the United States, according to a recent Fortune magazine survey of Washington insiders? Answer: Israel.

Q. Which country in the Middle East deliberately targeted a U.N. Refugee Camp in Qana, Lebanon and killed 103 innocent men, women, and especially children? Answer: Israel

Q: Which country in the Middle East is in defiance of 69 United Nations Security Council resolutions and has been protected from 29 more by U.S. vetoes? Answer: Israel.

Q. Which country in the Middle East receives more than one-third of all U.S. aid yet is the 16th richest country in the world? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East receives U.S. weapons for free and then sells the technology to the Republic of China even at the objections of the U.S.? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely insults the American people by having its Prime Minister address the United States Congress and lecturing them like children on why they have no right to reduce foreign aid? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East had its Prime Minister announce to his staff not to worry about what the United States says because "We control America?" Answer: Israel

Q. What country in the Middle East was cited by Amnesty International for demolishing more than 4000 innocent Palestinian homes as a means of ethnic cleansing. Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East has just recently used a weapon of mass destruction, a one-ton smart bomb, dropping it in the center of a highly populated area killing 15 civilians including 9 children? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East routinely kills young Palestinian children for no reason other than throwing stones at armored vehicles, bulldozers, or tanks? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East signed the Oslo Accords promising to halt any new Jewish Settlement construction, but instead, has built more than 270 new settlements since the signing? Answer: Israel

Q. Which country in the Middle East has assassinated more than 100 political officials of its opponent in the last 2 years while killing hundreds of civilians in the process, including dozens of children? Answer: Israel

Q.. Which country in the Middle East regularly violates the Geneva Convention by imposing collective punishment on entire towns, villages, and camps, for the acts of a few, and even goes as far as demolishing entire villages while people are still in their homes? Answer: Israel

Q: What country in the Middle East is the United States threatening to attack because of fear that it may be a threat to us and to our allies? Answer: Iraq



Peace is patriotic! Michael Santomauro Editorial Director 253 West 72nd street #1711 New York, NY 10023 RePortersNoteBook.com


by William
Arabs control 99% of the middle east. Jew-haters like Nessie and "Wendy" whine that they don't control all 100%. They cry that powerful Jews control America. They are Nazis - nothing more. They deserve our contempt.
by sidney
www.whatreallyhappened.com
by Sidney
LOOK YOU FUCK FACE... everytime someone sayd anything bad about jews they are anti semites? why? do you people think you're god and nobody can say anything bad about you? the jewish religion teaches its people to hate muslims and arabs... are you tryiing to say this is right...

by the way it's not the jews we hate, it's the israeli government and what they are doing to these poor palestinians.

go to http://www.whatreallyhappened.com to learn more
by one of the editors
Comments by "Report of Nazi Propaganda," "Jim" and "Mike" were hidden because they contained links to the National Alliance website. You can't post links to Nazi sites here, even if you embed it in what appears to be anti-Nazi propaganda. If you do, they will be removed.

I apologize for not having spotted these earlier. In the future, if any of you happen to see one, write to us at:

imc-sf-editorial [at] indymedia.org

Be sure to include the URL of the comment. Thanks in advance.

by gehrig
While you're checking out the General's anti-Israel screeds on "RePortersNoteBook.com," don't forget to take a look at their lead story -- on why the Holocaust is a big Jewish fraud. I'm not sure, but I think the "Porter" in the title is none other than Carlos Porter; Google him for an eyeful.

Not that there's _ever_ _any_ kind of relationship between antisemitism and anti-Zionism, oh, no no no no.

@%<


by fact
Nobody HAS to personally LIKE Jews just like no one HAS to personally like whomever, BUT when it becomes policy manifests itself in laws that discriminate and allow for ethnic cleansing and slow genocide, such as it did in Nazi Germany, and how it used to in this country before Civil Rights Movement, and how it IS HAPPENING NOW IN ISRAEL this is where we have to make sure that international laws and UN Resolutions are enforced and put pressure on our government to stop giving our tax money to apartheid, racist countries like Israel! Israel is asking for another $12 plus BILLION dollars! This is outrageous and American patriots will tell our leaders that we do not want any of our tax dollars to go to Israel, or Egypt for that money. By the way, the way Jews lie and rant and name-call to protect their racist "homeland" of Israel at the expense of Americans' safety and tax dollars, Jews are being less and less liked and contributing to so-called "anti-semitism." You can call us names all you like, but it's not going to silence our protest of U.S. support of Israel, and it's certainly not going to endear you to non-Jews. DUH.
by fact
Nobody HAS to personally LIKE Jews just like no one HAS to personally like whomever, BUT when it becomes policy manifests itself in laws that discriminate and allow for ethnic cleansing and slow genocide, such as it did in Nazi Germany, and how it used to in this country before Civil Rights Movement, and how it IS HAPPENING NOW IN ISRAEL this is where we have to make sure that international laws and UN Resolutions are enforced and put pressure on our government to stop giving our tax money to apartheid, racist countries like Israel! Israel is asking for another $12 plus BILLION dollars! This is outrageous and American patriots will tell our leaders that we do not want any of our tax dollars to go to Israel, or Egypt for that matter. By the way, the way Jews lie and rant and name-call to protect their racist "homeland" of Israel at the expense of Americans' safety and tax dollars, Jews are being less and less liked and contributing to so-called "anti-semitism." You can call us names all you like, but it's not going to silence our protest of U.S. support of Israel, and it's certainly not going to endear you to non-Jews. DUH.
by fact
Nobody HAS to personally LIKE Jews just like no one HAS to personally like whomever, BUT when it becomes policy manifests itself in laws that discriminate and allow for ethnic cleansing and slow genocide, such as it did in Nazi Germany, and how it used to in this country before Civil Rights Movement, and how it IS HAPPENING NOW IN ISRAEL this is where we have to make sure that international laws and UN Resolutions are enforced and put pressure on our government to stop giving our tax money to apartheid, racist countries like Israel! Israel is asking for another $12 plus BILLION dollars! This is outrageous and American patriots will tell our leaders that we do not want any of our tax dollars to go to Israel, or Egypt for that matter. By the way, the way Jews lie and rant and name-call to protect their racist "homeland" of Israel at the expense of Americans' safety and tax dollars, Jews are being less and less liked and contributing to so-called "anti-semitism." You can call us names all you like, but it's not going to silence our protest of U.S. support of Israel, and it's certainly not going to endear you to non-Jews. DUH.
by gehrig
"By the way, the way Jews lie and rant and name-call to protect their racist "homeland" of Israel ... "

Oh, no, no, _never_ any connection with antisemitism, no no never.

@%<
by Uber-Nerd
A couple of points that I would like to see discussed.

1. The "Palestinian" people of the West Bank were originally under control of the Egyptians before the 1967 War. Doesn't that make them occupied Egyptians?

Why were there no protests and suicide bombings to get free of Egyptian control?

Why would Egypt not take in it's own countrymen after the 1967 War?

The "Palestinian" people of the Gaza Strip were originally under control of the Jordanians before the 1967 War. Doesn't that make them occupied Jordanians?

Why were there no protests and suicide bombings to get free of Jordanian control?

Why would Jordan not take in it's own countrymen after the 1967 War?


If someone can answer me these questions in a logical manner without too much rhetoric toward Jews or Muslims, I would appriciate it.
by mike
this entire thread should be taken out. Wendy's an obvious anti-semite, and this reads like some Pierce screed.
by hello and goodbye
poor mike, the censor, the obsessor with the holocaust and dr. pierce (who the hell is he or she??), the Palocaust-denier, the name-caller, the obvious anti-semite (of the Arab variety, not the Jewish semite), the racist, bigoted Zionist, the Israel-firster, the obfuscator of the truth, godless, selfish, predictable...
by rawad messih
"The Jewish people stand or fall on the knowledge
that we are not like all other people. We are the chosen people, a godly people. A people chosen by the Almighty to do his will. There is a chosen people, a chosen land, a chosen state and a chosen destiny, and the conduct of the Jew and his state is directed toward that destiny. The normal rules of nationhood and statehood so not apply to us. The
normal logic of foreign policy is not ours. We have been chosen." Rabbi Meir Kahane, Introduction to Begin's book "Revolt."

"We have been chosen. We must cling unflinchingly to
our foreign policy aims, that is, to guarantee our nation
the soil and territory to which it is entitled on this earth,
and this is the only action which before God and our
posterity would seem justify an investment of blood.
We have been chosen by destiny." Adolph Hitler.
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