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Chomsky on Human Rights Week, 2002
by Noam Chomsky
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 8:49 PM
The struggle of people of Turkey for freedom and human rights is truly inspiring, not only because of the depth of commitment but also because it seems so natural and without pretense, just a normal part of life, despite the severe threats that are never remote.
Noam Chomsky; December 28, 2002

Human Rights Week is not much of an occasion in the US, with some notable qualifications. But it does receive considerable attention elsewhere. For me personally, Human Rights Week 2002 was memorable and poignant. The week opened on the eve of Human Rights Day, Dec. 10, at St. Paul's Cathedral in London, where thousands of people gathered to celebrate -- though that may not be quite the right word -- the tenth anniversary of the Kurdish Human Rights Project KHRP, which has done outstanding work on some of the most serious human rights issues of the decade: particularly, but not only, the US-backed terrorist campaigns of the Turkish state that rank among the most terrible crimes of the grisly 1990s, leaving tens of thousands dead and millions driven from the devastated countryside, with every imaginable form of barbaric torture. The week ended for me in Diyarbakir in southeastern Turkey, the semi-official capital of the Kurdish region, teeming with refugees living in squalor, barred from returning to what is left of their villages, even though new legislation theoretically allows that choice.

I had been invited to Diyarbakir by the Human Rights Association, which does courageous and impressive work under conditions of constant serious threat. The preceding days I spent in Istanbul at the invitation of the Publishers Association, which was holding its annual meeting and an international book fair, dedicated to peace and freedom; and the public sector union KESK (not permitted to function as a union under harsh laws and state practice), which was holding an international symposium on the same themes. While in Istanbul, I was able to visit the miserable slums where unknown numbers of Kurdish refugees seek to survive the damp cold winter months in decaying condemned buildings: large families may be crammed into a single room with young children virtually imprisoned unable to venture into the dangerous alleyways outside, and older children working in illegal factories to help keep the family alive. They too are effectively barred from returning to the homes from which they were expelled, despite the new legislation that lifts the state of emergency in southeastern Turkey -- formally, at least.

The founder and director of the KHRP is also barred from returning to his country. And just to round out the picture, the US is now refusing entry to human rights activists recording and protesting these crimes. A few weeks ago Dr. Haluk Gerger, a leading figure in the Turkish human rights movement, arrived with his wife at a New York airport. INS cancelled his 10-year visa, returning him and his wife at once after fingerprinting and photographing. Dr. Gerger has received awards from Human Rights Watch and the American Association for the Advancement of Science for his outstanding contributions to human rights; his punishment by the Turkish authorities had been singled out by the State Department as an example of Turkey's failure to protect elementary rights. In an open letter to the US Ambassador, the spokesperson of the Freedom of Speech Initiative in Istanbul, protesting this treatment, writes that Dr. Gerger is "a founding member of the Human Rights Association of Turkey" and "an ardent defender of Kurdish rights," who "has written extensively on the issue and has criticized governmental policies," likening "the Turkish government's treatment of the Kurds to Serbia's ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Bosnia," and suffering imprisonment and heavy fines as well as loss of his academic position for his writings on human rights issues.

Colin Powell's State Department has now declared him persona non grata in the United States, adopting the stand of extremist elements in the Turkish military and ultranationalist parties.

The Turkish state, with the hand of the military never hidden, remains harsh and repressive, despite some encouraging changes in recent months. But even superficial contact reveals that Turkish culture and society are free and vibrant in ways that should be a model for the West. Particularly striking is the spirit of resistance that one senses at once, from the caves outside the city walls of Diyarbakir where refugees speak eloquently of their yearning to return to their homes to the urban centers of intellectual life.

The struggle of people of Turkey for freedom and human rights is truly inspiring, not only because of the depth of commitment but also because it seems so natural and without pretense, just a normal part of life, despite the severe threats that are never remote. That includes courageous writers of international renown like Yashar Kemal; scholars who have faced and endured severe punishment for their commitment to tell the truth, like Ismail Besikci, who has spent much of his life in prison for his writings on state terror in Turkey; parliamentarians like Layla Zana, still languishing in prison, serving a 15 year sentence for expressing in her native language her hope that "Kurdish and Turkish people can live peacefully together in a democratic framework"; and many others like them, from all walks of life. They are of course unknown in the US, much like the Latin American intellectuals assassinated by US proxy forces, not to speak of the hundreds of thousands of usual victims -- "unworthy victims," in Edward Herman's phrase, because they suffer at the wrong hands: ours.

Dr. Besikci refused a $10,000 prize from the US Fund for Free Expression in protest against Washington's decisive contribution to terror in Turkey, primarily in the Clinton years, when the US provided 80% of Turkey's arms and Turkey became the leading recipient of US arms (Israel-Egypt aside) as criminal atrocities escalated. In the single year 1997 alone, US arms flow to Turkey exceeded the combined total for the entire Cold War period up to the onset of the state terror campaign; or as it is called in State Department reports on terror, and in the press, the "successful counter-terror" campaign for which Turkey is to be praised and rewarded. That practice accords with the standard doctrine, by no means unique to the US, that "terror" is what THEY do to US, and "counter-terror" is what WE do to THEM, commonly much worse, and only occasionally retaliation, not that it would be tolerable in that case.

Privileged people in the West should feel humility and shame when observing the courage and integrity of those who live under draconian laws and brutal repression and terror, in no small measure thanks to Western support, and not only condemn the abuses and defend the victims but regularly carry out acts of civil disobedience in protest, at severe risk. They should also feel shame that the KHRP operates in London, not New York, where it belongs, given the locus of responsibility for the crimes. The British record is not attractive, but the primary responsibility, by far, lies here. There is in fact a major Kurdish Center in New York, with many activities and important and highly informative publications (Center for Research of the Kurdish Library, Brooklyn, Vera Saaedpour, director). Its anniversary, however, would not bring together thousands of people in New York. It is known only to those who are concerned with human rights -- seriously concerned, that is, as shown by their attitude to their own crimes. It is far more gratifying to wring one's hands over the crimes of others that we can do little about, or perhaps to contemplate the strange flaw in our character that keeps us from responding to the crimes of others in some proper way (rarely spelled out beyond bold and often mindless declarations). In sharp contrast, the crimes that we could easily bring to an end merely by withdrawing our decisive participation must be buried deep in the memory hole.

Uppermost in everyone's minds from London to Diyarbakir and beyond is the feverish determination of the Bush administration to find a pretext for what it believes will be a cheap and politically useful war in Iraq, with Blair trailing loyally behind. In Turkey, popular opposition to the coming war is overwhelming. Much the same is true throughout the region, and in most of Europe and the rest of the world as well. Poll results for the US look different, but that is misleading. It can hardly escape notice that although Saddam Hussein is reviled everywhere, it is only in the US that people are genuinely afraid that if we don't stop him today, he'll kill us tomorrow.

Engendering such fears is second nature to the re-cycled Reaganites at the helm in Washington. Throughout the 1980s they were able to ram through their reactionary agenda, significantly harming the population, by maintaining a constant state of fear. Twenty years ago Libyan hit-men were wandering the streets of Washington to assassinate our leader. Then the Russians were going to bomb us from an air base in Grenada (if they could find it on a map). Meanwhile the awesome Sandinista army was poised only two days marching time from Harlingen Texas, a "dagger pointed at the heart of Texas." And on through the decade. To determine a meaningful measure of domestic support for the coming war, it would be necessary to extricate the fear factor, unique to the US. The results would probably show little difference from the rest of the world.

There is no historical precedent for such enormous popular opposition to a war, and protest against it, before it is even launched (fully launched, to be more accurate).

In the Kurdish areas the general opposition to war is heightened by concern over the consequences for the Kurds. The neighboring countries are likely to intensify domestic repression in the context of war. Similar concerns extend to Kurds elsewhere, including the 4 million who, for the moment, have achieved unusual progress in the northern enclaves of Iraq under the uneasy alliance of Masoud Barzani and Jalal Talabani. Apart from their vulnerability to murderous Iraqi assault in the event of war, and the anticipated Turkish reaction if there is any hint of a move towards meaningful autonomy, more than half are reported to be reliant for survival on the UN "Oil for Food" program, likely to be severely disrupted in the event of war. "Free Kurdistan is like a huge refugee camp," one Kurdish leader commented, dependent on UN-run programs for food and on Baghdad for fuel and power. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees is planning for possible flight of hundreds of thousands to neighboring countries, where they are not likely to receive a warm welcome, and where the prospects for the indigenous Kurdish populations are sufficiently grim even without what might lie ahead -- or perhaps to camps in northern Iraq that are being constructed by the Turkish army there, according to Turkish sources, a development with threatening portent.

I mentioned a qualification to the lack of attention to Human Right Week here: namely, when human rights violations can be exploited as a weapon against some official enemy, a practice that Amnesty International has bitterly deplored, again in the past few months. Through the 1980s, Human Rights Day was the occasion for impassioned denunciations of the Soviet Union, technically accurate but with extreme cynicism that utterly resists exposure. Human Rights Day 2002 was the occasion for the release by the Jack Straw, British Foreign Secretary, of a Dossier on Saddam Hussein's crimes -- accelerated by a few days, as part of the US-UK effort to elicit some hostile Iraqi gesture prior to the crucial Dec. 8 deadline for Iraq's submission of documents on its weapons of mass destruction (WMD). The Dossier was authentic, drawn mostly from reports of human rights organizations on Saddam's horrendous atrocities through the 1980s. Unmentioned, as usual, was the fact that these shocking crimes were of no concern to the US or UK, which continued to provide their friend Saddam with aid, including means to develop WMD at a time when he was vastly more dangerous than today.

In the US, those responsible are now again in office, and instructions are that we are to disregard the criminal record for which they show not the slightest contrition. The current British government was then in opposition, but as journalist Mark Thomas revealed, parliamentary protests against Saddam's crimes from 1988 through the 90s are missing a few names: Blair, Straw, Cook, Hoon,.., that is, the leading figures of the governing party. Thomas also released a letter demonstrating that Straw's discovery of Saddam Hussein's evil nature is quite recent. In January 2001, as Home Secretary, it was his responsibility to rule on pleas for political asylum. He rejected the appeal of an Iraqi who had been detained and tortured in Iraq because the "wide range of information on Iraq" that Straw had at his disposal made it clear that the Iraqi tyrant's courts would not "convict and sentence a person" improperly, and "if there are any charges outstanding against you and if they were to be proceeded with on your return, you could expect to receive a fair trial under an independent and properly constituted judiciary."

But something changed since January 2001, and the crimes that were of no account shock our sensibilities and require war. And we are all supposed to observe this performance with sober approval, if not awe.

I also mentioned that in 1997, US arms flow to Turkey exceeded the combined total for the Cold War years as state terror mounted to levels far beyond anything attributed to Milosevic in Kosovo before the NATO bombing, which was undertaken, we were solemnly informed, because we are so high-minded that we cannot tolerate crimes so near the borders of NATO -- only within NATO, where we must not only tolerate but expedite them. 1997 was an important year for the human rights movements in other ways as well. It was the year when the world's leading newspaper informed its readers that US foreign policy had entered a "noble phase," with a "saintly glow." It was also the year when US military aid to Colombia skyrocketed, increasing from $50 million to $290 million by 1999, then doubling by 2001 and still increasing. In 1999, Turkey relinquished to Colombia its place as leading recipient of US arms. The reason is not hard to discern: Turkish state terror was by then a success, Colombia's was not. Through the 1990s, Colombia had by far the worst human rights record in the Western hemisphere, and was by far the leading recipient of US arms and military training, a correlation that is well-established and would be of no slight concern if it were known outside of scholarship and dissident circles.

Turkey and Colombia share other common features. Each has several million people violently displaced; 2.7 million by now in Colombia, increasing at the rate of 1000 a day, according to the latest reports of the leading human rights organization. These are the numbers internally displaced, not counting those who have fled elsewhere. And Colombia, like Turkey, provides a model of courageous resistance that should be observed with shame and humility by privileged Westerners -- particularly those who labor to suppress the continuing atrocities and terror for which we bear responsibility, to efface the disgraceful record of the past, and to erect firm barriers against the threat of exposure of crimes that the general population would not tolerate, were the barriers to be breached.

by mike
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 8:54 PM
The Chomsker speaks the truth, once again.
by Leon
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 9:00 PM
If by truth you mean complete horse shit.
by bluecollar
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 9:29 PM
this sounds like the fifth column vs the rich column.
by x
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 11:01 PM
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Sheesh.............
by mike
Saturday Dec 28th, 2002 11:03 PM
My, don't the freaks come out when a Chomsky post appears. Thanks for writing in, everybody; and we'll see you all in Baghdad--where, no doubt, given your fervid love of America, you'll be on the front lines dodging bullets for the Fatherland. Right? No? Gosh, that's a bit hypocritical. Surprising in such super-patriots......interesting.....
by Aydin Bakir (aydintb [at] yahoo.com)
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 3:51 AM

I bet most of you cannot talk any other language as much as I speak yours. So I am not that Sorry for the bad english you are going to encounter.

People of the world could be catagorized as 'humans' and others. For example, Bin Laden, Hitler, so on, has the lowest rank of the group 'others'. You can put Mahatma Ghandi into the groups of 'Humans'.

Well being 'westernized' and being 'civil' are different things. Being westernized is partly sharing a western tradition and culture. You can be westernized without being civil!

Being a human gives him/her big responsibilities. Humans create civilizations. Humans does not belong to borders of countries or ethnic groups.
All religions, etc tells people to be 'humans'. So humanism is the pillar of civilizations.

Are Americans enough civil to keep their so called nation alive? Chomsky talks is beyond 'nations' and they are the pillars of civilizations. And in the heart of capitalizm, having a lecturer like Chomsky is really something like finding a sign of 'life' in the USA.

The problem todays civilizations are that they cannot distinguish the thin line between being civilized and being westernized.

I am sure western people thinks its their faith to be rich. The wealth they live mush have been given to them by God. Or becaues of 'they' are working so deliberately. And it is obious that 'they' does not include any foreigns in their small minds!

Those people should learn how Romans, Greeks, Ottomans, Chinese have collapsed. Romans were a civilization much bigger than todays USA. Where is USA today?

Clear your capitalist minds. Being frantic about war is a sign of less civilized minds.

These deliberate worker USA nation seems to be not understanding that the pillars of their civilizations goes away day by day.

Chomsky is too 'human' to be an American.

Because he talks the truth. And you are too American not to see what he says.

by Rand Dawson
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 9:08 AM
Martin's attack misses, or seeks to obscure, the point: Chomsky ties his conclusions to facts.

If you wish to understand Chomsky, read around a bit. The thread is there...and anyone...regardless of whom they may be...can reach these conclusions.

Martin's agenda is more curious. Perhaps someone will ferret it out for us in the future.
by Mehmet
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 10:00 AM
Truly Chomsky is a crafter of demogogy and diatribe of the First! He was able to meet, organize, and agitate with his ilk in the Turkish Republic, because it is a Western democracy that does guarantee human rights! If he goes across into his beloved Northern Iraq, does he know what happens to those in the territoies marked out by the Kurdish warlords Barzani and Talabani who would dare challenge the rule of these hereditary tribal chiefs? And further south, would Chomsky venture to Baghdad to organize a seminar on Saddam's human rights abuses.

The hypocrite Chomsky can only two-facedly preach against democracies, while cavorting with Marxists, Leninists, Fundamentalists and mere brute drug-trafickers who would kill any innocent person to protect their power. Thankfully, the authorities countries such democracies as Turkey and the US are strong enough to contain the Stalinist impulses of these groups while giving them enough room to vent out their vile gases.
by Paul Peacelover (truthbox [at] hotmail.com)
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 10:51 AM
Although it is admirable to see Chaomsky trying to promote the human rights, it is questionable that he know the truth at all. He tends to hate any nation who allies with the United States. His public recognition as a critique of the American state must give him that responsibility I guess. Yet, his views for the world events are extremely infilated. His views on Kurdis problem in Turkey is no where close to the truth, shared by public in that country. He never acknowledges the PKK terror that Turkish and Kurdish civilians suffred last decade. He, for some reason, has selective intelligence gathering in Turkey. It is fine to listed dissedents of Kurdis independence movements, but he also have to listen the avarage Turk ot Kurd walking on the street.
Hatred never brings peace. It is the mutual understanding that will bring a lasting peace to this planet.
I am afraid, Mt Chaomsky does not have the wuality and maturity to listen everybody's opinion.
He is a one track minded post-modern fasict who hide behind the mask of liberalism.
by Nihal (maymail [at] aol.com)
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 11:11 AM
My God, this guys is clueless.
Barzani and Talibani are cruel feudal lords who inherited their status from their fathers typical to Kurdish structure. He is promoting this mess as democracy.
Hey, Mr Chaomsky...Let me not live in a country you consider a democtracy.
His hatred to America makes him blind.
He only talks to anti-Government folks. Never listed avarage people. I guess avarage people must be too stupid ha!
Fuck, this guy is plain old stupid, I am sorry to say that.
by Aydin Bakir (aydintb [at] yahoo.com)
Sunday Dec 29th, 2002 11:37 AM
USA seems the best ally of Turkey recently. USA supports Turkey in every aspects, including democrasy. And because of that westernized Turkish democrasy, you may get into trouble with law.
Just like in case Chomsky had!!!
To read the details of that news, take a look at the url

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/136150.asp

Well, I am a Turk. Turks, unlike other islamic countries around, are a nation who wants more freedom and more democrasy. That separates us from the rest of islamic countries and makes us come closer to the West. I personally want more democracy. Because, I believe in that development in every aspect will lead democracy. But I dont believe in that USA cares about the democrasy in Turkey. Or democrasy even in any other part of the world.
Few years ago, when a religous party been elected in Turkey, USA goverment congrulated them and told that they can work with that islamic goverment!!! Few days latter, they changed their speech. Should we need more examples of USA and democrasy support file?

I hope someday we (Turkey) will be a leading country of democrasy and science. To obtain that We must see how we look when someone else puts a mirror on face.

by Mustafa Altintas
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 2:44 PM
I respect Chomsky's background in global matters and linguistics in general. However, I must say, he is really off in his analysis of Turkey and the Southeastern problem. Understanding what went on in Southeastern Turkey requires more than a knowledge of Latin America. The parallel he draws between Turkey and Colombia is especially an unfortunate one. The moment you make such a connection, you lose all credibility, intellectual, academic or otherwise. I recommend that Mr Chomsky study Turkey's history, starting from Anatolian Turks, the battle of Malazgirt of 1071, and that of Kurds as well. Also, he should be kind enough to pay homage to all lives lost, Turkish or Kurdish, or however he would like to ethnically cathegorize. I condemn Mr Chomsky for calling my country's government "terrorist" and making no mention of PKK, the seemingly Marxist and apparently racist terrorist organization who killed babies, mothers, fathers, soldiers, civil servants, teachers simply to terrorize the Turkish Republic and its citizens. Even the French intellectuals have stopped such praise for Kurdish terror.
by mike
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 3:05 PM
The difference is that the U.S. government supplies the arms and other equipment used to attack the Kurds. As I citizen of the U.S., I do not want to pay for such atrocities. I can't do much about guerilla atrocities, but I can demand that my government stop supporting terrorism by the Turkish state. If the Turks want to slaughter Kurds, let them do it on their own dime, not mine.

Comprende, monsieur?
by Kamal
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 3:19 PM
Chomsky happens to be a leading expert on the battle of Malazgirt of 1071 and he makes it clear that the Turks ran like scared poodles in the face of the combined armies of Gehngis Khan, Hannabal and Alexander the Great. Get your facts right, asshole.
by mike
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 3:28 PM
In addition, Chomsky has also pointed to the strong role that both General Custer and Hannibal Lecter played in defeating the Turks at the Battle of the Bulge in 1644, A.D., which led to the founding of the caliph of Kazoo, who started the Amway chain and was a strong proponent of Propanda of the Deed of Trust, perhaps the most important innovation in Islamic real estate since the building of the first igloos in French West Africa in Stardate 2011, Nubian calendar.
by Nick
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 4:48 PM
You still didn't answer the question on why Chomsky pays taxes to a "terrorist state".
by Albert Swartz (alberto29034 [at] yahoo.com)
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 4:59 PM
this
by mike • Thursday January 02, 2003 at 03:05 PM

The difference is that the U.S. government supplies the arms and other equipment used to attack the Kurds. As I citizen of the U.S., I do not want to pay for such atrocities... let them do it on their own dime, not mine.

*********************************************************

Why do you continue to pay taxes then mike? You're just as guilty as the guys pulling the trigger on all those guns your tax dollars provide. So is Chomsky. Quit being such a pathetic hypocrit.
by mike
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 6:20 PM
I answered the question,as below, my pea-brained nimrodian friends. But it's always good hearing from you. I repost the comment so readers of this board will have the pleasure of watching me once more kick your scrawny right wing butts. Cheers! mike 56, Nick 0




taxing
by mike • Thursday January 02, 2003 at 12:05 PM



Paying taxes is the LEGAL obligation of every citizen. An individual's willingness to pay taxes has no relation to whether he has the legal or moral authority to criticize his government.

Did Brodsky and Sakharov pay taxes to the Soviet government even though they issued withering criticisms of it, far in excess of the charges Chomsky has leveled against the U.S.? Yes. Did Lech Walesa pay taxes to the Polish government, did Havel to the Czech? Yes. Closer to home, did most abolitionists pay taxes to the U.S. government even though it supported slavery, which they (correctly) viewed as the greatest moral atrocity in the history of mankind? Yes. Do most opponents of abortion pay taxes to the U.S. government even though they believe (wrongly) that abortion is genocide? Yes.

By paying taxes, Chomsky, and I, are expressing our gratitude to the country for providing the world's highest standard of free speech; and saying that the U.S.'s disgraceful record on domestic poverty and its barbaric foreign policy are capable of being changed through peaceful reform.

Your raising of the tax issue is a smokescreen designed to conceal your complete ignorance of Chomsky's positions.

So there.

by MEHMETCIK
Thursday Jan 2nd, 2003 11:51 PM
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE TURKEY? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT TERRORIZM OR WAR?

I KNOW MR MIKE .I WAS IN NORTH IRAQ 3 TIMES I WAS PROTECTING THE YOUR LOYAL SOLDERS ASS .JUST LIKE MY GRANTFATHER DID IN KOREA.

WHO PAY THIS? LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.DO YOU THINK YOUR MONEY CAN BUY MY BLOOD?AND WHAT HELP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT .U.S HAD PROMISED US MONEY ,DURING THE GULF WAR.THAT MONEY SUPPOSED TO BE RECIEVED IN 1991.THAT MONEY WAS NOT HELPING THE TURKEY ,THAT WAS FOR OUR ECONOMIC LOST .BECAUSE OF YOUR WAR.
AND WE NEVER GET ANY HELP OTHER THAN BUNCH OF JUNK USELESS GUN.

I DO NOT KNOW YOUR ORIGIN , BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TURKEY BE CAREFUL.THINK BEFORE SAY SOMETHING,AND DONT FORGET WHO YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR ENIMIES ARE. AS A TURKHIS IF I SHAKE HANDS AND PROMIS SOMETHING I NEVER GIVE UP NO MATTER WHAT .MY WORD HAS BEEN ALVAYS STRONGER THAN OAK AND WILL BE.IF I SAY I M GOING TO PROTECT YOUR BACK I WILL.BUT DO NOT FORGET WHO WE ARE
by Nick
Friday Jan 3rd, 2003 5:19 AM
Gee Mikey, your answer to the question is pathetic at best.

Question: Why pay taxes to a terrorist nation?

Mikey’s answer:

1. Because it must be the cool thing to do. I mean, everyone else is doing it.

2. (and more importantly) “By paying taxes, Chomsky, and I, are expressing our gratitude to the country…” for being the terrorist nation that we are allowed to accuse it of being! Thanks Uncle Sam, for being so understanding.

See what mikey (and consequently, Noam) is trying to say (and that they won’t tell you outright) is that they really don’t believe America is a terrorist nation.

In fact, they love it here just as much as you or I do.

They especially love the tremendous wealth available to be earned by our citizenry here in America.

They only put the terrorist label on the package as sort of a “marketing strategy”. Helps old Noam sell more books. He has to "sensationalize" his blather, because how many of you would have even clicked on this thread if it had been entitiled "I Love America, But I hate it's Foreign Policies - by Noam Chomsky"?

We get it now mike. It’s okay to pay those taxes. It gives you the right to badmouth the government and it gives Noam the ability to sell more books. Who the fuck cares anyhoo, as long as your bank account is getting fatter in the process.
by 19/26?
Friday Jan 3rd, 2003 6:45 PM
I counted nineteen posts out of tewnty six. So seven out of twenty six were obliterated by the ruling collective. Want a preview of commie society? Nazism? It's here. Posts dissappear. Ideas dissappear. People dissappear. Beware of the the fascists. Remember the missing.
by Humanowski (abc [at] abc.com)
Sunday Jan 5th, 2003 10:38 AM
Chaomsky is a Hitler Clone in 21st century.
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