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Forgotten Refugees: The fate of Jews under Arab rule -- and historical amnesia.
Last Thursday, a new terrorist group calling itself, "The Government of Universal Palestine, the Army of Palestine" claimed responsibility for a murderous jihadist terror attack against Kenyans and Israelis in Kilambala, Kenya.
The attacks were timed to mark the eve of the anniversary of the November 29, 1947 decision by the United Nations to partition Palestine and allow the creation of the Jewish state.
The next day, in New York and Geneva, the United Nations hosted its annual "International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People" — without a hitch.
Amid this ongoing savagery and carnage worldwide, some basic truths need to be reaffirmed about the Middle East tragedy. Aside from the thorny Jerusalem issue, the major stumbling block has always been the question of the return of — or compensation for — Arab refugees from Palestine in 1948 and 1967. But Israel's steadfast refusal by the Arab Palestinian leadership and Arab countries since the 1920s also led to another great refugee tragedy.
In 1945 there were about 140,000 Jews in Iraq; 60,000 in Yemen and Aden; 35,000 in Syria; 5,000 in Lebanon; 90,000 in Egypt; 60,000 in Libya; 150,000 in Algeria; 120,000 in Tunisia; and 300,000 in Morocco, including Tangiers. That comes to a total of about 960,000 — and more than 200,000 in Iran and Turkey.
Jordan covered 78 percent of Palestine as designated by the League of Nations in 1922. Turning a blind eye to article 15 of the League of Nations Mandate, Great Britain decided in 1922 that no Jews would be authorized either to reside or buy land in what was now the Emirate of Transjordan. This decision was ratified by the kingdom of Jordan in its law No. 6, sect. 3, of April 3, 1954 (reactivated in law no. 7, sect. 2, of April 1, 1963), which states that any person may become a citizen of Jordan if he is not a Jew. Even when Jordan made peace with Israel in 1994, this Judenrein legislation remained.
In these ancient Jewish communities, which date from Biblical times, less than 40,000 Jews remain today — and in the Arab world there are fewer than 5,000, one-half of one percent of their number at the end of World War II.
During the 20th century, thousands of Jewish men, women, and children, young and old, were brutally massacred in the Maghreb, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya, and Aden — even under French and British colonial rule — and also in Palestine after the British conquest and during the Mandate (1918-48).
As to why and how these countries became Judenrein ( "cleansed" of Jews), the heading of an article from the New York Times of May 16, 1948 — a day after Israel declared its independence — says it all: "Jews in Grave Danger in all Moslem Lands. Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia Face Wrath of Their Foes".
On January 18, 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: "Between 800'000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in 'the greatest danger of destruction' at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine ... Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity."
Already in Iraq (1936 and 1941), Syria (1944-45), Egypt and Libya (1945), and Aden (1947) — all before the state of Israel's founding — murderous attacks had killed and wounded thousands. Here is a description from the official report in 1945 by Tripoli's Jewish community president, Zachino Habib, describing what happened to Libyan Jews in Tripoli, Zanzur, Zawiya, Casabat, Zitlin, Nov. 4-7, 1945: "The Arabs attacked Jews in obedience to mysterious orders. Their outburst of bestial violence has no plausible motive. For fifty hours they hunted men down, attacked houses and shops, killed men, women, old and young, horribly tortured and dismembered Jews isolated in the interior... In order to carry out the slaughter, the attackers used various weapons: knives, daggers, sticks, clubs, iron bars, revolvers, and even hand grenades." (1)
A recent example of such murderous acts was seen on April 11, 2002 when the jihadist bombing of the ancient al-Ghariba synagogue of Djerba in Tunisia killed 17 and badly wounding many others, most of them elderly German tourists. A spokesman for al Qaeda claimed they had been behind the bombing. Now Tunisia's remaining Jewish community will seek security in Israel and elsewhere — like 99 percent of their coreligionists before them.
Pogroms and persecutions, and grave fears for their future, regularly preceded the mass expulsions and exoduses of the Jews, whose ancestors had inhabited these regions from time immemorial, a millennium and more before the successive waves of Arab conquest and occupation from the 7th century. Beginning in 1948, more than 650,000 of these Oriental Jewish refugees were integrated into Israel — even as the country was being threatened with annihilation by neighboring Arab League states, which, for over 40 years, refused the U.N.'s 1947 Palestine Partition Plan. Approximately 300,000 more Jews found refuge, and a new homeland, in Europe and the Americas.
Roughly half of Israel's 5 million Jews — from a population of 6.2 million, of whom roughly 20 percent are Arab, Druze, and Bedouin Israelis — is now composed of those refugees and their descendants, who received no humanitarian aid from the United Nations, and who indeed did not ask for it. It was Jews worldwide, just emerging from the Shoah, who worked together with Israel to achieve this integration.
Yet it was this defiance of international legality by the Arab League in 1947-1948 — maintained decade after decade in unsuccessful attempts at politicide — that led to the ongoing Arab-Palestinian catastrophe. A parallel commitment on behalf of the less numerous Arab refugees of Palestine (in 1948 they numbered about 550,000, although a figure of 750,000 is often claimed) for their integration into some of the 21 Arab states (covering 10 percent of the world's land surface) was considered too great a symbolic and monetary sacrifice, even despite their immense oil resources.
George Orwell's remark about everyone being equal — but some being more equal than others — could well be applied to refugees since the 1940s: Apparently some refugees are considered more equal than others. But the forgotten million — Jewish refugees from Arab lands — were not helped by the U.N. , nor were they kept for over half a century in refugee camps, breeding hopelessness, frustration, and — under U.N. auspices — a culture of hate and death, in which jihadist bombers thrive today.
The transfer of populations on a large scale, as a consequence of war or for political reasons, has always been a characteristic of human history, particularly in the Islamic Orient. Deportations, expropriations and expulsions of dhimmis — Jews, Christians, and other indigenous peoples — recurred throughout the long history of dhimmitude, including in Palestine. One should question today the real motivation of a selective, historically flawed memory which systematically spotlights the Arab-Palestinian refugees — suffering from the Arab League's own policy — but conveniently forgets the Jewish refugees from Arab lands.
U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 of November 22, 1967 — also adamantly refused then by the Khartoum Arab League Summit Conference with the formula: "No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiation with Israel, no concessions on the questions of Palestinian national rights" — refers to "a just solution to the refugee problem". This term applied implicitly also to Jewish refugees from Arab countries — who had been obliged to seek security outside their native lands — and not only to the Arab-Palestinian refugees who are not specifically referred to in the resolution.
The dire hardships endured by the great majority of the Jewish refugees from Arab countries have never been considered by the United Nations, nor has the loss of their inestimable properties and heritage dating back over 3, 000 years. The time has surely come for this great injustice to be addressed seriously, within the context of a just and equitable global solution to the ongoing Middle East tragedy, once the Palestinian leadership ends its jihad-war of attrition and takes the democratic path to peace.
On April 24, 2002, at the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva, we referred to this matter as a representative of the World Union for Progressive Judaism. Speaking in a "right of reply," the delegate of Iraq (Saad Hussain) stated, unashamedly, that he was "responding to the lies that we heard in the statement of the gentleman called David Littman, known for his animosity toward the Arabs, Muslims, and Islam. The Arab history, the Arab and Islamic history for fourteen centuries, has not witnessed any harm to the Jews — quite the contrary. The Jews have lived, and continue to live in peace, and their sacred places and their property have been protected until today (...) They live in Arab countries today in perfect safety, despite the events — the horrible events taking place in Palestine." (2)
Not surprisingly, the truth is very different. Jews have always been forbidden to reside in Saudi Arabia and Jordan; there are now no Jews in Libya; under 100 in Egypt and Syria; and only 17 remain in Iraq! We shall again briefly raise the question of the forgotten million Jewish refugees from Arab countries at the next session of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights — when the chairperson will be the lady ambassador from Libya! At the last six-week session (March-April 2002), more than 50 percent of the commission's time was taken up by Palestinian issues — to the dismay of very many observers.
(1) Renzo di Felici, Jews in an Arab Land: Libya, 1835-1970 (University of Texas, 1985, pp. 193-94., n. 19, p. 365)
(2) U.N. English interpretation, as recorded verbatim from the statement delivered in Arabic.
The next day, in New York and Geneva, the United Nations hosted its annual "International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People" — without a hitch.
Amid this ongoing savagery and carnage worldwide, some basic truths need to be reaffirmed about the Middle East tragedy. Aside from the thorny Jerusalem issue, the major stumbling block has always been the question of the return of — or compensation for — Arab refugees from Palestine in 1948 and 1967. But Israel's steadfast refusal by the Arab Palestinian leadership and Arab countries since the 1920s also led to another great refugee tragedy.
In 1945 there were about 140,000 Jews in Iraq; 60,000 in Yemen and Aden; 35,000 in Syria; 5,000 in Lebanon; 90,000 in Egypt; 60,000 in Libya; 150,000 in Algeria; 120,000 in Tunisia; and 300,000 in Morocco, including Tangiers. That comes to a total of about 960,000 — and more than 200,000 in Iran and Turkey.
Jordan covered 78 percent of Palestine as designated by the League of Nations in 1922. Turning a blind eye to article 15 of the League of Nations Mandate, Great Britain decided in 1922 that no Jews would be authorized either to reside or buy land in what was now the Emirate of Transjordan. This decision was ratified by the kingdom of Jordan in its law No. 6, sect. 3, of April 3, 1954 (reactivated in law no. 7, sect. 2, of April 1, 1963), which states that any person may become a citizen of Jordan if he is not a Jew. Even when Jordan made peace with Israel in 1994, this Judenrein legislation remained.
In these ancient Jewish communities, which date from Biblical times, less than 40,000 Jews remain today — and in the Arab world there are fewer than 5,000, one-half of one percent of their number at the end of World War II.
During the 20th century, thousands of Jewish men, women, and children, young and old, were brutally massacred in the Maghreb, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Libya, and Aden — even under French and British colonial rule — and also in Palestine after the British conquest and during the Mandate (1918-48).
As to why and how these countries became Judenrein ( "cleansed" of Jews), the heading of an article from the New York Times of May 16, 1948 — a day after Israel declared its independence — says it all: "Jews in Grave Danger in all Moslem Lands. Nine Hundred Thousand in Africa and Asia Face Wrath of Their Foes".
On January 18, 1948, the president of the World Jewish Congress, Dr. Stephen Wise, appealed to U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall: "Between 800'000 and a million Jews in the Middle East and North Africa, exclusive of Palestine, are in 'the greatest danger of destruction' at the hands of Moslems being incited to holy war over the Partition of Palestine ... Acts of violence already perpetrated, together with those contemplated, being clearly aimed at the total destruction of the Jews, constitute genocide, which under the resolutions of the General Assembly is a crime against humanity."
Already in Iraq (1936 and 1941), Syria (1944-45), Egypt and Libya (1945), and Aden (1947) — all before the state of Israel's founding — murderous attacks had killed and wounded thousands. Here is a description from the official report in 1945 by Tripoli's Jewish community president, Zachino Habib, describing what happened to Libyan Jews in Tripoli, Zanzur, Zawiya, Casabat, Zitlin, Nov. 4-7, 1945: "The Arabs attacked Jews in obedience to mysterious orders. Their outburst of bestial violence has no plausible motive. For fifty hours they hunted men down, attacked houses and shops, killed men, women, old and young, horribly tortured and dismembered Jews isolated in the interior... In order to carry out the slaughter, the attackers used various weapons: knives, daggers, sticks, clubs, iron bars, revolvers, and even hand grenades." (1)
A recent example of such murderous acts was seen on April 11, 2002 when the jihadist bombing of the ancient al-Ghariba synagogue of Djerba in Tunisia killed 17 and badly wounding many others, most of them elderly German tourists. A spokesman for al Qaeda claimed they had been behind the bombing. Now Tunisia's remaining Jewish community will seek security in Israel and elsewhere — like 99 percent of their coreligionists before them.
Pogroms and persecutions, and grave fears for their future, regularly preceded the mass expulsions and exoduses of the Jews, whose ancestors had inhabited these regions from time immemorial, a millennium and more before the successive waves of Arab conquest and occupation from the 7th century. Beginning in 1948, more than 650,000 of these Oriental Jewish refugees were integrated into Israel — even as the country was being threatened with annihilation by neighboring Arab League states, which, for over 40 years, refused the U.N.'s 1947 Palestine Partition Plan. Approximately 300,000 more Jews found refuge, and a new homeland, in Europe and the Americas.
Roughly half of Israel's 5 million Jews — from a population of 6.2 million, of whom roughly 20 percent are Arab, Druze, and Bedouin Israelis — is now composed of those refugees and their descendants, who received no humanitarian aid from the United Nations, and who indeed did not ask for it. It was Jews worldwide, just emerging from the Shoah, who worked together with Israel to achieve this integration.
Yet it was this defiance of international legality by the Arab League in 1947-1948 — maintained decade after decade in unsuccessful attempts at politicide — that led to the ongoing Arab-Palestinian catastrophe. A parallel commitment on behalf of the less numerous Arab refugees of Palestine (in 1948 they numbered about 550,000, although a figure of 750,000 is often claimed) for their integration into some of the 21 Arab states (covering 10 percent of the world's land surface) was considered too great a symbolic and monetary sacrifice, even despite their immense oil resources.
George Orwell's remark about everyone being equal — but some being more equal than others — could well be applied to refugees since the 1940s: Apparently some refugees are considered more equal than others. But the forgotten million — Jewish refugees from Arab lands — were not helped by the U.N. , nor were they kept for over half a century in refugee camps, breeding hopelessness, frustration, and — under U.N. auspices — a culture of hate and death, in which jihadist bombers thrive today.
The transfer of populations on a large scale, as a consequence of war or for political reasons, has always been a characteristic of human history, particularly in the Islamic Orient. Deportations, expropriations and expulsions of dhimmis — Jews, Christians, and other indigenous peoples — recurred throughout the long history of dhimmitude, including in Palestine. One should question today the real motivation of a selective, historically flawed memory which systematically spotlights the Arab-Palestinian refugees — suffering from the Arab League's own policy — but conveniently forgets the Jewish refugees from Arab lands.
U.N. Security Council Resolution 242 of November 22, 1967 — also adamantly refused then by the Khartoum Arab League Summit Conference with the formula: "No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiation with Israel, no concessions on the questions of Palestinian national rights" — refers to "a just solution to the refugee problem". This term applied implicitly also to Jewish refugees from Arab countries — who had been obliged to seek security outside their native lands — and not only to the Arab-Palestinian refugees who are not specifically referred to in the resolution.
The dire hardships endured by the great majority of the Jewish refugees from Arab countries have never been considered by the United Nations, nor has the loss of their inestimable properties and heritage dating back over 3, 000 years. The time has surely come for this great injustice to be addressed seriously, within the context of a just and equitable global solution to the ongoing Middle East tragedy, once the Palestinian leadership ends its jihad-war of attrition and takes the democratic path to peace.
On April 24, 2002, at the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva, we referred to this matter as a representative of the World Union for Progressive Judaism. Speaking in a "right of reply," the delegate of Iraq (Saad Hussain) stated, unashamedly, that he was "responding to the lies that we heard in the statement of the gentleman called David Littman, known for his animosity toward the Arabs, Muslims, and Islam. The Arab history, the Arab and Islamic history for fourteen centuries, has not witnessed any harm to the Jews — quite the contrary. The Jews have lived, and continue to live in peace, and their sacred places and their property have been protected until today (...) They live in Arab countries today in perfect safety, despite the events — the horrible events taking place in Palestine." (2)
Not surprisingly, the truth is very different. Jews have always been forbidden to reside in Saudi Arabia and Jordan; there are now no Jews in Libya; under 100 in Egypt and Syria; and only 17 remain in Iraq! We shall again briefly raise the question of the forgotten million Jewish refugees from Arab countries at the next session of the U.N. Commission on Human Rights — when the chairperson will be the lady ambassador from Libya! At the last six-week session (March-April 2002), more than 50 percent of the commission's time was taken up by Palestinian issues — to the dismay of very many observers.
(1) Renzo di Felici, Jews in an Arab Land: Libya, 1835-1970 (University of Texas, 1985, pp. 193-94., n. 19, p. 365)
(2) U.N. English interpretation, as recorded verbatim from the statement delivered in Arabic.
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Mad Mickey I am surprise to see you in this 'rabid squirrel webside' as you described it.
David G. Littman you should realy read history much deep. Crimes against Palestinians and other Arab countries were perpetrated from the group that later on called themselves as Zionists. This group killed more jews than the nazis and they are still doing it.
Trivialities and banalities do not make history, death yes they do. There were a lot of historical facts if you are willing to read the past Indymedia articles and there are books on bookstores as well.
All the above historical facts are to be looked in different prospective. Secondly do not mystify reality with fiction. Semitic jews are second class citizen in Israel, for my point of view the other jews are not jews at all. They are European and they lost their semitic heritage. They may be believers of Jadhaism but that is that.
David G. Littman you should realy read history much deep. Crimes against Palestinians and other Arab countries were perpetrated from the group that later on called themselves as Zionists. This group killed more jews than the nazis and they are still doing it.
Trivialities and banalities do not make history, death yes they do. There were a lot of historical facts if you are willing to read the past Indymedia articles and there are books on bookstores as well.
All the above historical facts are to be looked in different prospective. Secondly do not mystify reality with fiction. Semitic jews are second class citizen in Israel, for my point of view the other jews are not jews at all. They are European and they lost their semitic heritage. They may be believers of Jadhaism but that is that.
Hello antisemite asshole machno .
Fuck you. Stop spereding lies.
Adn btw we will killmore palescums :)
so fuck you and suck my dick
Fuck you. Stop spereding lies.
Adn btw we will killmore palescums :)
so fuck you and suck my dick
This is one of the first breaths of fresh air I've ever seen on this website.
No doubt it will receive many rabid attacks by people like Machano, those who believe another lie, that the Ashkenazi Jews are all converts... in spite of the fact that Judaism is not a missionary religion, and converts are therefore very rare. But because he has this belief, he believes the Ashkenazi have no right to a homeland, in spite of the fact that they bore the brunt of the Holocaust.
It is refreshing indeed to see someone who actually knows some real Jewish history, rather than the version of the Jew hater.
No doubt it will receive many rabid attacks by people like Machano, those who believe another lie, that the Ashkenazi Jews are all converts... in spite of the fact that Judaism is not a missionary religion, and converts are therefore very rare. But because he has this belief, he believes the Ashkenazi have no right to a homeland, in spite of the fact that they bore the brunt of the Holocaust.
It is refreshing indeed to see someone who actually knows some real Jewish history, rather than the version of the Jew hater.
He knows his history, yes, but he dleiberately omits gargantuan portions of it .. Irgun, Stern Gang, terrorist attacks on British peacekeepers and Arab civilians, etc etc etc
"Adn btw we will killmore palescums :) "
"Cyberbeast", calling human beings "palescums" and advocating we kill more sounds like the Nazis and Hitler.
"Cyberbeast", calling human beings "palescums" and advocating we kill more sounds like the Nazis and Hitler.
There is a good deal of evidence uncovered by Naeim Giladi (who is of Jewish-Iraqi descent) to show that Israel played a direct role in "encouraging" the mass exodus of many Jews from Iraq -- and probably other Arabic countries as well.
He thoroughly documents this in his book "Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews."
An excerpt from an article of his:
"We Jews from Islamic lands did not leave our ancestral homes because of any natural enmity between Jews and Muslims. And we Arabs-I say Arab because that is the language my wife and I still speak at home-we Arabs on numerous occasions have sought peace with the State of the Jews. And finally, as a U.S. citizen and taxpayer, let me say that we Americans need to stop supporting racial discrimination in Israel and the cruel expropriation of lands in the West Bank, Gaza, South Lebanon and the Golan Heights."
-Naeim Giladi
To see a more detailed account, go here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1548272.php
He thoroughly documents this in his book "Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews."
An excerpt from an article of his:
"We Jews from Islamic lands did not leave our ancestral homes because of any natural enmity between Jews and Muslims. And we Arabs-I say Arab because that is the language my wife and I still speak at home-we Arabs on numerous occasions have sought peace with the State of the Jews. And finally, as a U.S. citizen and taxpayer, let me say that we Americans need to stop supporting racial discrimination in Israel and the cruel expropriation of lands in the West Bank, Gaza, South Lebanon and the Golan Heights."
-Naeim Giladi
To see a more detailed account, go here:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1548272.php
More Zionist lies to cover-up Israeli genocide. What Jew wants or wanted to remain in Arab controlled lands when they could go to Israel and steal land and homes from Palestinians?
What UN support was desired when Jews took 95 billion in reparations from Germany, One hundred billion from US treasury and then big bucks from world Jewry to establish their racist state.
And again with the "millions" of Jews. Why not six million Jews persecuted in Arabs lands, just like the WW One lies about "six million" and the bullshit about six million in the holohoax.
The fanatics of Israel 1948 manufactured terror in Iraq so that Jews would flock to Israel, just like they Russian Jews to immigrate, and just like they are doing now.
What UN support was desired when Jews took 95 billion in reparations from Germany, One hundred billion from US treasury and then big bucks from world Jewry to establish their racist state.
And again with the "millions" of Jews. Why not six million Jews persecuted in Arabs lands, just like the WW One lies about "six million" and the bullshit about six million in the holohoax.
The fanatics of Israel 1948 manufactured terror in Iraq so that Jews would flock to Israel, just like they Russian Jews to immigrate, and just like they are doing now.
One of the few shortcomings of an open publishing site is that you never know who is posting something.
The above is either an anti-Semite or someone trying to discredit what was written before and bring discussion to a halt. In either case I think it's obvious to anyone with any brains that this is about the state of Israel and its supporters (who happen to consist of Christian Fundamentalists as well as liberals of many faiths) not about people of Jewish descent many of whom take a principled stance on this issue.
The above is either an anti-Semite or someone trying to discredit what was written before and bring discussion to a halt. In either case I think it's obvious to anyone with any brains that this is about the state of Israel and its supporters (who happen to consist of Christian Fundamentalists as well as liberals of many faiths) not about people of Jewish descent many of whom take a principled stance on this issue.
The passage above and the rest like it are filled with hatred for Jews and disregard for their rights as a nation. If these are the people who crave justice, then what is this justice that they seek? Their justice is the destruction of the Jewish people. It is the modern incarnation of fascism, this time masquerading as anti-racism.
Giladi's response to the article about Jewish refugees is, of course, a personal account , as legitimate as any other. However, the fact remains that neither he nor any other Israelis who arrived from Arab country has as yet received any compensation for their lost property. It is also a bit strange that he did not choose to go back to his native Iraq, but settled in the US instead - if Arabs were such good neighbors, why not go back and live with them now, when he has fallen out of love with Israel?
Right above is a post by "CyberBeast" who says they "will kill more palescums."
That is hatred as well and in my opinion no less horrible than anti-Semitism. This seems just as prevalent as the other kind if not more so (often when it is not genocidal in tone, anti-Arab hatred isn't even noticed).
But of course that post is conveniently overlooked by Lea who says "The passage above and the rest like it are filled with hatred for Jews and disregard for their rights as a nation." I wonder if asking if Palestinians have "rights as a nation" would be considered hatred by that standard...
That is hatred as well and in my opinion no less horrible than anti-Semitism. This seems just as prevalent as the other kind if not more so (often when it is not genocidal in tone, anti-Arab hatred isn't even noticed).
But of course that post is conveniently overlooked by Lea who says "The passage above and the rest like it are filled with hatred for Jews and disregard for their rights as a nation." I wonder if asking if Palestinians have "rights as a nation" would be considered hatred by that standard...
Well, right above is also a post by someone calling themselves "the lies never end" who refers to the "Holohoax." He's a holocaust denier, and a Jew-hater as well.
That also doesn't inspire much confidence.
That also doesn't inspire much confidence.
The folloowing sentance in Paragraph 3 is confusing and may contain a typographical error.
"But Israel's steadfast refusal by the Arab Palestinian leadership and Arab countries since the 1920s also led to another great refugee tragedy."
Does anyone understand it?
Len
"But Israel's steadfast refusal by the Arab Palestinian leadership and Arab countries since the 1920s also led to another great refugee tragedy."
Does anyone understand it?
Len
CyberBeast you are fucking cunt. You are antisemite. I think that you do not have any idea whatsoever what semitic means. Palestinians are semitic people.
Sharon is not semitic, but I may conceade that he is a piece of shit like you CyberBeast.
Please do not try telling crap anymore and go to buy some books to study a little more. Never be trivial!
Sharon is not semitic, but I may conceade that he is a piece of shit like you CyberBeast.
Please do not try telling crap anymore and go to buy some books to study a little more. Never be trivial!
It should not be unexpected that those who support unquesitningly pan-Arab nationalism -- and hate Jews ("holohoax"?) would deny the injustice meted out to the entire Jewish community of the Middle East and North Africa by Arab governments. In fact, the logic of denial is plain. If one can deny the genocide of 6 million Jews by the Nazis, then all the easier to deny the expulsion of nealry a million Jews from Arab states.
Arab nationalists and their supporters have little to say, except to blame the "Zionists" for the expulsions of the Jews from Arab countries. It wasn't "Zionists" who confiscated billions in dollars of their property, stripped them of their citizenship, massacred them in Aden, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Syria.
Visit the web site of Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa at http://www.jimena-justice.org. There is a bibliography section, and an FAQ that describes the link between the Palestinian national leadership -- which collaborated with Nazi Germany -- the expulsion of the Jews form Arab countries.
Arab nationalists and their supporters have little to say, except to blame the "Zionists" for the expulsions of the Jews from Arab countries. It wasn't "Zionists" who confiscated billions in dollars of their property, stripped them of their citizenship, massacred them in Aden, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Syria.
Visit the web site of Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa at http://www.jimena-justice.org. There is a bibliography section, and an FAQ that describes the link between the Palestinian national leadership -- which collaborated with Nazi Germany -- the expulsion of the Jews form Arab countries.
For more information:
http://www.jimena-justice.org
Far worse than denying the Holocaust : diluting it and then turning around and prostituting the deaths of 6 million innocent victims in an orgy of shameless political profiteering to benefit an ethnic supremacist state.
Nonetheless .. expulsions (both Jewish and Palestinian) should be condemned. But prostitution of the term "anti-semitism" by applying it to all Palestinian activists is not only incorrect, it is a vile abuse of the victims, completely disgusting and unacceptable.
Nonetheless .. expulsions (both Jewish and Palestinian) should be condemned. But prostitution of the term "anti-semitism" by applying it to all Palestinian activists is not only incorrect, it is a vile abuse of the victims, completely disgusting and unacceptable.
The Ottomans were not very religious (being fairly recent converts) and fundamentalism is very new to the region and seems to mainly be a reaction to colonialism and now US agression. The solution isnt to turn a blind eye on Israel since it is the scapegoat issue that allows regional governments to blame their problems on an external enemy. If the Palestinian conflict can be solved with a peaceful solution and Palestine (one or two states) becomes a democratic and secular state the other governments in the region will be faced with general revolt from their own populations...
If a militant secular proPalestinian movement could ever be formed that also agressively pursued rights for minority groups in all regional states perhaps things could be solved...
If a militant secular proPalestinian movement could ever be formed that also agressively pursued rights for minority groups in all regional states perhaps things could be solved...
The fact is, there was never a "Palestinian people" in all history. The Arabs usurped the Land of Israel. Arab forces joined in the Roman attacks on the Jews of Judea [IUDAEA] in both the 68-73 CE war and the 131-135 CE war. Yet a large Jewish population remained in the country [although forbidden to live in Jerusalem]. After the Arab conquest, the later Omayyad rulers and the Abbasid rulers exploited the Jews with severe taxes, plus the usual chaos of Arab rule, and the usual humiliations of non-Muslims [dhimmis], causing Jews to migrate from the country in the pre-Crusades period [some of them coming to northern Europe, Ashkenaz]. The Crusaders massacred much or most of the Jews remaining in the country. It was only after the Crusades that a clear Arab Muslim majority developed in the Land of Israel [west of the Jordan], many of them fleeing from the Mongol invasion [see Prof. Joseph Drory]. This obnoxious bigoted message writer may be unaware that there were prosperous Jews in Iraq and Egypt who had to leave their property behind which was confiscated by Arab govts. The Jews did not come to Israel for economic advantage.
The "Palestine people" notion is a psychological warfare invention. The Western powers paid the Saudis and other Arabs premium prices for oil [in the US, under the "foreign tax credit" applied to oil since 1951].
The "Palestine people" notion is a psychological warfare invention. The Western powers paid the Saudis and other Arabs premium prices for oil [in the US, under the "foreign tax credit" applied to oil since 1951].
MYTH
The Jews have no claim to the land they call Israel.
FACT
A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the
Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70
A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their
country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic
homeland for more than 3,700 years, including a national language and a distinct
civilization.
The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars. [see above]
Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.
The Crusaders massacred many Jews during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionist movement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.1 The 78 years of nation-building, beginning in 1870, culminated in the reestablishment of the Jewish State.
Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.[...]
MYTH
Palestine was always an Arab country.
FACT
The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines,
an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean
coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century
A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name
Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank)
in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The
Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.3
The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although Palestine eventually was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence under the monarchy lasted for more than 400 years. This is much longer than Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.4
When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in
1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs
lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades.
"The great majority of the Arab population in recent decades were comparative
newcomers-either late immigrants or descendants of persons who had immigrated
into Palestine in the previous 70 years."
I am one of the refugees you speak about in your article. At the end of WWII the Germans were approaching Iraq and they (the Iraqis and their German friends) wanted to cleanse that land of Jews. There was something called the "Farhoud." They attacked all the Jews and many horrendous things occured.
Shortly after that my parents decided to flee Baghdad. We escaped to Iran in a British army plain with the clothes that we wore and a very small valise. Although I was very young then, I still remember the whirring of the propellers and the feel of the wooden bench along side of the plane on which we sat.
Because of our escape, all my father's property was taken away. They arrested my older uncle. They hung him from his feet and tortured him. They pulled out his finger nails and toe nails and probably did many more atrocious things that I did not comprehend, being very young and not able to fathom what my elders were saying.
Under the Shah we led a very peaceful and comfortable life. However, that way of life did not last. We got Khomeini. Once more there was intolerance and once more we escaped. Once more we left behind money in the bank, homes and properties.
As a group, we never asked for any payment for what we left behind. We never asked for a hand out. We got back on our feet as best we could. We never asked for sympathy and did not expect it.
I am tired of hearing of the plight of the poor Palestinian. Living as an Israeli citizen he was not treated differently. He got the same privileges as everyone else. Israel was fair to him and treated him equally until he decided to kill and terrorize them. He is a cry baby. Fifty years later he is still crying over a piece of land that he did not appreciate then and did nothing to. "Come on! Get on with your lives! Move forward!" I say to them.
How can the world forget the picture of the Arab soldiers that licked the blood of the two Israeili soldiers that they murdered? Even a wild animal does not kill unless he is hungry. These people are bestial!
How can you talk sanely to such an unreasonable lot?
Shortly after that my parents decided to flee Baghdad. We escaped to Iran in a British army plain with the clothes that we wore and a very small valise. Although I was very young then, I still remember the whirring of the propellers and the feel of the wooden bench along side of the plane on which we sat.
Because of our escape, all my father's property was taken away. They arrested my older uncle. They hung him from his feet and tortured him. They pulled out his finger nails and toe nails and probably did many more atrocious things that I did not comprehend, being very young and not able to fathom what my elders were saying.
Under the Shah we led a very peaceful and comfortable life. However, that way of life did not last. We got Khomeini. Once more there was intolerance and once more we escaped. Once more we left behind money in the bank, homes and properties.
As a group, we never asked for any payment for what we left behind. We never asked for a hand out. We got back on our feet as best we could. We never asked for sympathy and did not expect it.
I am tired of hearing of the plight of the poor Palestinian. Living as an Israeli citizen he was not treated differently. He got the same privileges as everyone else. Israel was fair to him and treated him equally until he decided to kill and terrorize them. He is a cry baby. Fifty years later he is still crying over a piece of land that he did not appreciate then and did nothing to. "Come on! Get on with your lives! Move forward!" I say to them.
How can the world forget the picture of the Arab soldiers that licked the blood of the two Israeili soldiers that they murdered? Even a wild animal does not kill unless he is hungry. These people are bestial!
How can you talk sanely to such an unreasonable lot?
GOD NAMES NEXT "CHOSEN PEOPLE"; IT'S JEWS AGAIN
"Oh Shit," Say Jews
Jerusalem (SatireWire.com) Update — Jews, whose troubled, 10,000-year term as God's "chosen people" finally expired last night, woke up this morning to find that they had once again been hand-picked by the Almighty.
Synagogues across the globe declared a day of mourning.
Asked if the descendants of Abraham shouldn't be pleased about being tapped for an unprecedented second erm, Jerusalem Rabbi Ben Meyerson shrugged. "Of course, you are right, we should be thrilled," he said. "We should also enjoy a good swift kick in the head, but for some reason, we don't.
Now don't ask such questions until you watch the news,
or read history, or at least rent 'Fiddler on the Roof'."
Much of the world's re-blessed Jewish community shared
that feeling. "It's always been considered a joke with us.
You know, 'Please G-d, next time choose someone else,'
ha ha," said New York City resident David Bashert.
"Ha. Ha ha," Bashert added. "Shit."
According to a worldwide survey of faiths, not a single
group expressed an interest in being chosen, and the
only application submitted before last night's filing
deadline, on behalf of the Islamic people, proved to be a
fake.
Now don't ask such questions until you watch the news,
or read history, or at least rent 'Fiddler on the Roof'."
Much of the world's re-blessed Jewish community shared
that feeling. "It's always been considered a joke with us.
You know, 'Please G-d, next time choose someone else,'
ha ha," said New York City resident David Bashert.
"Ha. Ha ha," Bashert added. "Shit."
According to a worldwide survey of faiths, not a single
group expressed an interest in being chosen, and the
only application submitted before last night's filing
deadline, on behalf of the Islamic people, proved to be a
fake.
"Somebody filled out a form and signed our name to it,
but I guarantee it wasn't us," said Imam Yusuf Al
Muhammed of Medina, Saudi Arabia. "I'm not going to
say who it was, but the application was filled out in Hebrew."
"Oh, don't be such a k'vatsh," responded Meyerson. "It's only 10,000 years. Trust me,
after a few diaspora, you would have gotten used to the universal hatred thing."
Due to the absence of voluntary candidates, God's Law stipulated that the Almighty had
to choose a people at random to serve out the next 10-millenia term. Elias Contreau,
director of the International Interfaith WorkingGroup, said he wasn't surprised it came to
a blind drawing.
"According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him," said Contreau. "Who knows, maybe that sounded good at the time, or maybe 'blessed' meant something different back then, like 'Shortperiods of prosperity interrupted by insufferable friggin' chaos.' Whatever, I think it's safe to say that people didn't know what they were agreeing to."
Now they do, Contreau added, which he said explains why so many religions had lately been exalting God's existence, but downplaying their own.
"We were not avoiding Him. We just told our parishioners that if Anyone asks, we're out," insisted Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. George Carey, who had called off services during February. "Besides, we weren't the only ones. I didn't see the Hindus raising their hands."
"Now look, it's like we told the ethereal vision who dropped off the application, 'Sure,
we have a strong shared faith and all that, but I wouldn't exactly say we're a 'people,'
not really,'" recalled Hindu leader Samuldrala Swami Maharaj of Calcutta. "Plus,
you know, I told him we had a lot of other commitments. We'd like to help, honestly.
Another time, maybe."
In Jerusalem, Jewish leaders said they will propose an amendment to God's Law
prohibiting a people from having to serve more than two consecutive terms.
"Hopefully, G-d will hear our prayer," said Meyerson. "No, wait, that's what got us into
this."
Americans, meanwhile, expressed outrage at the decision, saying they had assumed
they were God's chosen people. However, explained Archbishop Carey, "It only
seems that way because so many people don't like you."
"Oh Shit," Say Jews
Jerusalem (SatireWire.com) Update — Jews, whose troubled, 10,000-year term as God's "chosen people" finally expired last night, woke up this morning to find that they had once again been hand-picked by the Almighty.
Synagogues across the globe declared a day of mourning.
Asked if the descendants of Abraham shouldn't be pleased about being tapped for an unprecedented second erm, Jerusalem Rabbi Ben Meyerson shrugged. "Of course, you are right, we should be thrilled," he said. "We should also enjoy a good swift kick in the head, but for some reason, we don't.
Now don't ask such questions until you watch the news,
or read history, or at least rent 'Fiddler on the Roof'."
Much of the world's re-blessed Jewish community shared
that feeling. "It's always been considered a joke with us.
You know, 'Please G-d, next time choose someone else,'
ha ha," said New York City resident David Bashert.
"Ha. Ha ha," Bashert added. "Shit."
According to a worldwide survey of faiths, not a single
group expressed an interest in being chosen, and the
only application submitted before last night's filing
deadline, on behalf of the Islamic people, proved to be a
fake.
Now don't ask such questions until you watch the news,
or read history, or at least rent 'Fiddler on the Roof'."
Much of the world's re-blessed Jewish community shared
that feeling. "It's always been considered a joke with us.
You know, 'Please G-d, next time choose someone else,'
ha ha," said New York City resident David Bashert.
"Ha. Ha ha," Bashert added. "Shit."
According to a worldwide survey of faiths, not a single
group expressed an interest in being chosen, and the
only application submitted before last night's filing
deadline, on behalf of the Islamic people, proved to be a
fake.
"Somebody filled out a form and signed our name to it,
but I guarantee it wasn't us," said Imam Yusuf Al
Muhammed of Medina, Saudi Arabia. "I'm not going to
say who it was, but the application was filled out in Hebrew."
"Oh, don't be such a k'vatsh," responded Meyerson. "It's only 10,000 years. Trust me,
after a few diaspora, you would have gotten used to the universal hatred thing."
Due to the absence of voluntary candidates, God's Law stipulated that the Almighty had
to choose a people at random to serve out the next 10-millenia term. Elias Contreau,
director of the International Interfaith WorkingGroup, said he wasn't surprised it came to
a blind drawing.
"According to the Bible, God promised to bless Abraham and those who came after him," said Contreau. "Who knows, maybe that sounded good at the time, or maybe 'blessed' meant something different back then, like 'Shortperiods of prosperity interrupted by insufferable friggin' chaos.' Whatever, I think it's safe to say that people didn't know what they were agreeing to."
Now they do, Contreau added, which he said explains why so many religions had lately been exalting God's existence, but downplaying their own.
"We were not avoiding Him. We just told our parishioners that if Anyone asks, we're out," insisted Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. George Carey, who had called off services during February. "Besides, we weren't the only ones. I didn't see the Hindus raising their hands."
"Now look, it's like we told the ethereal vision who dropped off the application, 'Sure,
we have a strong shared faith and all that, but I wouldn't exactly say we're a 'people,'
not really,'" recalled Hindu leader Samuldrala Swami Maharaj of Calcutta. "Plus,
you know, I told him we had a lot of other commitments. We'd like to help, honestly.
Another time, maybe."
In Jerusalem, Jewish leaders said they will propose an amendment to God's Law
prohibiting a people from having to serve more than two consecutive terms.
"Hopefully, G-d will hear our prayer," said Meyerson. "No, wait, that's what got us into
this."
Americans, meanwhile, expressed outrage at the decision, saying they had assumed
they were God's chosen people. However, explained Archbishop Carey, "It only
seems that way because so many people don't like you."
"How can the world forget the picture of the Arab soldiers that licked the blood of the two Israeili soldiers that they murdered? Even a wild animal does not kill unless he is hungry. These people are bestial!
How can you talk sanely to such an unreasonable lot?
"
Well after people read your statements they will get the same impression since you are dehumanizing a people for the actions of a few individuals. Iran isnt even an Arab state its Persian... (which if you really were from there I think you would have known)Also, The accusations of expulsions in this post are about a much earlier period.
Iran under the Shah terrorized many portions of the population (and forced many people to leave) and the Shah was an obvious US puppet established by the US coup against Irans first democratic secular leader in the 50s... (and Mossadeq wasn't antiSemetic as far as I know) With the basklash against the US a new religious dictatorship emerged but repression moved to other portions of the population. If Iran had been allowed to become a secular independent state by the US all portions of the population would have been better off and fundamentalism would never have emerged...
How can you talk sanely to such an unreasonable lot?
"
Well after people read your statements they will get the same impression since you are dehumanizing a people for the actions of a few individuals. Iran isnt even an Arab state its Persian... (which if you really were from there I think you would have known)Also, The accusations of expulsions in this post are about a much earlier period.
Iran under the Shah terrorized many portions of the population (and forced many people to leave) and the Shah was an obvious US puppet established by the US coup against Irans first democratic secular leader in the 50s... (and Mossadeq wasn't antiSemetic as far as I know) With the basklash against the US a new religious dictatorship emerged but repression moved to other portions of the population. If Iran had been allowed to become a secular independent state by the US all portions of the population would have been better off and fundamentalism would never have emerged...
You have to admit, though, that "Stella's" language was skillfully convincing.
Some fine Lord Haw-Haw skills happening there.
Too bad she didn't research the subject matter beforehand, as most fictionalists do.
Some fine Lord Haw-Haw skills happening there.
Too bad she didn't research the subject matter beforehand, as most fictionalists do.
I am so sorry to tell you Mr. Littman that the jews from Arab lands were robbed of their wealth by the Arab goverments and now their children and grand-children are being abused and discriminated at schools in Israel. SO SHAME. They are twice robbed: once of their matterial resources and second of their human resources and by two diffrent factors.
I shall be glad to hear your reply for that !
I shall be glad to hear your reply for that !
This article only scratches the surface of the bestial conduct of Moslem Arabs from the 7th century onward toward Jews, Christians, other dhimmis and infidels who lived in lands conquered by Islam. Most Islamists of today either agree with the barbaric conduct of their co-religionists or are afraid to contradict them, fearing for their own lives. Until Islam and Moslems advance into the the 21st century, I see no hope of their moderation.
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