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Police killing suspect confessed

by Mardele Duarte (elf71648 [at] aol.com)
McCrae said "he killed a police officer in Red Bluff Ca. in an effort to draw attention to police brutality." I have many stories of police brutality in Shasta Co.,
I have pictures and stories, but I am new to the computer, so I don't know how to get the rest to you
by Adult Supervisor
Seems to me the biggest day in SF Indymedia's life would be today. This was when we had the revelations about the Indymedia cop killer.

And, it also appears that the, ahem, editors have been, shall we say, cleaning up. Call it damage control if you like.

So quick to hide their own failings. So quick with the cover-up.
by one of the editors
If you weren't such an idiot, you'd be able to find them. Most people haven't had any problem. What's the matter, your brain isn't up to the job?

What we *have* been hiding today are what we always hide, racist, sexist, homophobic propaganda and spam. Now behave, or we'll 86 your sorry butt right along with the rest of scum who harras us. Capiesc'?

If you think we cant do it, ask this guy:

smashtheleft [at] hotmail.com

by B
Not to worry. The various threads have been saved to hard drives across the country.
by mike
i cant seem to find the threads....can someone post a link?
by hot tip
you would have clicked the link on the front page called "More Breaking News... " and seen that every one of those threads is still there.



by Mike
ive never used this piece of shit message board before. i came here simply because i saw it on TV. i found the link through yahoo http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/11/1545326.php
by Mike
ive never used this piece of shit message board before. i came here simply because i saw it on TV. i found the link through yahoo
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/11/1545326.php
by poster
Killer of Calif. policeman captured in Concord, N.H.
By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
Union Leader Staff

"...McCrae entered no plea on the fugitive from justice charge brought by Concord police during his video arraignment from Merrimack County Jail in Boscawen.

Shirtless with a blanket draped around his shoulders and a white bandage on his head, McCrae stared intently and stood silently beside his attorney, Mark Sisti, as the charges were read.

Sisti said McCrae would not waive extradition to California and said he wants a review of McCrae’s mental and physical state.

Murray said McCrae should be held without bail, in part, because he posed an “extreme risk to the law enforcement community.”

Judge Michael Sullivan ordered McRae held without bail. He set a review hearing for Dec. 26.

McCrae has had little or no contact with New Hampshire, holds no job here and has no known relatives or friends here, Murray said.

Sisti, who said he was hired to represent McCrae, would not say explain his client’s attire during his arraignment nor say why his head was bandaged.

Concord police said McCrae was involved in a “brief scuffle” while being booked at police headquarters, but Sisti would not say whether the bandage was related to the scuffle.

Early yesterday morning, a state, federal and local law enforcement task force in Northern California alerted the FBI’s Boston office that McCrae might be staying at the Holiday Inn across from the State House at 172 North Main St. in Concord.

The FBI notified Concord police at 2:19 a.m. They learned McCrae checked in Sunday, paying cash.

An FBI agent negotiated with McCrae over the telephone for several hours to try to get him to surrender, said Jay Fallon, supervisory special agent at the FBI’s Bedford office.

Authorities would not comment on whether he had a weapon, although he reportedly told them he was not armed.

Shortly before 10 a.m., McCrae asked to speak with a Concord Monitor reporter.

McCrae told Vos he wanted her to read a copy of his “Declaration of a Renewed American Independence” that he had posted Monday night on an Web site.

“He wanted to talk to a reporter because he wanted to get his message out,” said Vos, 27, who said she talked to McCrae from the hotel lobby for no more than 10 minutes while an agent passed her notes.

“They told me beforehand that he wanted to give me a copy (of the declaration) and I should tell him I want to see it. The idea was I should try to get him to come out,” said Vos, the newspaper’s crime reporter.

Shortly after their conversation, McCrae surrendered.

“We are fortunate this resolved itself without anyone else getting hurt,” Madden said.

Fallon said no other arrests are pending.

“This is an investigation going on, literally, from one end of the country to another. I’m not planning on any (more arrests) today. Where it leads, nobody knows,” Fallon said.

The Associated Press reported more than 2,500 people, including Gov. Gray Davis, attended Mobilio’s memorial service in Red Bluff, a city of 13,500 near Sacramento. He was the first Red Bluff officer killed in the line of duty."
by poster
Killer of Calif. policeman captured in Concord, N.H.
By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
Union Leader Staff

"...McCrae entered no plea on the fugitive from justice charge brought by Concord police during his video arraignment from Merrimack County Jail in Boscawen.

Shirtless with a blanket draped around his shoulders and a white bandage on his head, McCrae stared intently and stood silently beside his attorney, Mark Sisti, as the charges were read.

Sisti said McCrae would not waive extradition to California and said he wants a review of McCrae’s mental and physical state.

Murray said McCrae should be held without bail, in part, because he posed an “extreme risk to the law enforcement community.”

Judge Michael Sullivan ordered McRae held without bail. He set a review hearing for Dec. 26.

McCrae has had little or no contact with New Hampshire, holds no job here and has no known relatives or friends here, Murray said.

Sisti, who said he was hired to represent McCrae, would not say explain his client’s attire during his arraignment nor say why his head was bandaged.

Concord police said McCrae was involved in a “brief scuffle” while being booked at police headquarters, but Sisti would not say whether the bandage was related to the scuffle.

Early yesterday morning, a state, federal and local law enforcement task force in Northern California alerted the FBI’s Boston office that McCrae might be staying at the Holiday Inn across from the State House at 172 North Main St. in Concord.

The FBI notified Concord police at 2:19 a.m. They learned McCrae checked in Sunday, paying cash.

An FBI agent negotiated with McCrae over the telephone for several hours to try to get him to surrender, said Jay Fallon, supervisory special agent at the FBI’s Bedford office.

Authorities would not comment on whether he had a weapon, although he reportedly told them he was not armed.

Shortly before 10 a.m., McCrae asked to speak with a Concord Monitor reporter.

McCrae told Vos he wanted her to read a copy of his “Declaration of a Renewed American Independence” that he had posted Monday night on an Web site.

“He wanted to talk to a reporter because he wanted to get his message out,” said Vos, 27, who said she talked to McCrae from the hotel lobby for no more than 10 minutes while an agent passed her notes.

“They told me beforehand that he wanted to give me a copy (of the declaration) and I should tell him I want to see it. The idea was I should try to get him to come out,” said Vos, the newspaper’s crime reporter.

Shortly after their conversation, McCrae surrendered.

“We are fortunate this resolved itself without anyone else getting hurt,” Madden said.

Fallon said no other arrests are pending.

“This is an investigation going on, literally, from one end of the country to another. I’m not planning on any (more arrests) today. Where it leads, nobody knows,” Fallon said.

The Associated Press reported more than 2,500 people, including Gov. Gray Davis, attended Mobilio’s memorial service in Red Bluff, a city of 13,500 near Sacramento. He was the first Red Bluff officer killed in the line of duty."
by We are not your mother.
Figure it out for yourselves.

The instructions are simple. If you are too stupid to understand them, go away. You won't be able to understand what people are talking about here, anyway.
by poster
Killer of Calif. policeman captured in Concord, N.H.
By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
Union Leader Staff

"...McCrae entered no plea on the fugitive from justice charge brought by Concord police during his video arraignment from Merrimack County Jail in Boscawen.

Shirtless with a blanket draped around his shoulders and a white bandage on his head, McCrae stared intently and stood silently beside his attorney, Mark Sisti, as the charges were read.

Sisti said McCrae would not waive extradition to California and said he wants a review of McCrae’s mental and physical state.

Murray said McCrae should be held without bail, in part, because he posed an “extreme risk to the law enforcement community.”

Judge Michael Sullivan ordered McRae held without bail. He set a review hearing for Dec. 26.

McCrae has had little or no contact with New Hampshire, holds no job here and has no known relatives or friends here, Murray said.

Sisti, who said he was hired to represent McCrae, would not say explain his client’s attire during his arraignment nor say why his head was bandaged.

Concord police said McCrae was involved in a “brief scuffle” while being booked at police headquarters, but Sisti would not say whether the bandage was related to the scuffle.

Early yesterday morning, a state, federal and local law enforcement task force in Northern California alerted the FBI’s Boston office that McCrae might be staying at the Holiday Inn across from the State House at 172 North Main St. in Concord.

The FBI notified Concord police at 2:19 a.m. They learned McCrae checked in Sunday, paying cash.

An FBI agent negotiated with McCrae over the telephone for several hours to try to get him to surrender, said Jay Fallon, supervisory special agent at the FBI’s Bedford office.

Authorities would not comment on whether he had a weapon, although he reportedly told them he was not armed.

Shortly before 10 a.m., McCrae asked to speak with a Concord Monitor reporter.

McCrae told Vos he wanted her to read a copy of his “Declaration of a Renewed American Independence” that he had posted Monday night on an Web site.

“He wanted to talk to a reporter because he wanted to get his message out,” said Vos, 27, who said she talked to McCrae from the hotel lobby for no more than 10 minutes while an agent passed her notes.

“They told me beforehand that he wanted to give me a copy (of the declaration) and I should tell him I want to see it. The idea was I should try to get him to come out,” said Vos, the newspaper’s crime reporter.

Shortly after their conversation, McCrae surrendered.

“We are fortunate this resolved itself without anyone else getting hurt,” Madden said.

Fallon said no other arrests are pending.

“This is an investigation going on, literally, from one end of the country to another. I’m not planning on any (more arrests) today. Where it leads, nobody knows,” Fallon said.

The Associated Press reported more than 2,500 people, including Gov. Gray Davis, attended Mobilio’s memorial service in Red Bluff, a city of 13,500 near Sacramento. He was the first Red Bluff officer killed in the line of duty."
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by ?
Why were the following addresses and phone #s given by McCrea? Has anyone called them?

The Declaration of a Renewed American Independence
by Andrew McCrae 5:05pm Mon Nov 25 '02 (Modified on 11:02pm Tue Nov 26 '02)
address: 420 Sherman St. Olympia, WA phone: 360-753-7486
http://www.seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=20309&group=webcast

The Declaration of a Renewed American Independence
by Andrew McCrae 5:29pm Mon Nov 25 '02
address: 342 Treehaven St. Austin TX phone: 374-988-4833 n
http://austin.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=4378&group=webcast

The Declaration Of A Renewed American Independence
by Andrew McCrae
Email: none (unverified!)
Phone: 834-389-2933
Address: 433 Blackraven Dr. Baltimore, Maryland
http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/2219/index.php
by     
EXCERPTS:




"Sisti said McCrae would not waive extradition to California and said he wants a review of McCrae’s mental and physical state."

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_show.html?article=16085

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"Voluntary false confessions occur without any obvious pressure from the police. They are internally generated. Often these people go to the police after a crime has been reported in the media and make a confession. This type of false confession arises from many different causes, the best known being a morbid desire for notoriety. The person is unable to distinguish fact from fantasy; they need to expiate guilt feelings through receiving punishment and a desire to protect somebody else from interrogation and prosecution. "


http://website.lineone.net/~passy34/gisli.htm

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"It has been noted that people sometimes make voluntary false confession. These can be because a person will confess in order to protect the real culprit, usually a family member, but it has also been discovered that people sometimes confess to crimes they have not committed in order to get the attention of the nation - to gain notoriety."

http://uk.geocities.com/nevill5/falseconfessions.html
by Maxine
I live in Red Bluff and I hate to tell you, but he was the one decent cop in town. I had many experiences with him as I work in a school and he was the officer that would visit the children. Andy McCrae, You made a big mistake with picking your victim. You talk about non-violent change from the inside, well this guy was making some amazingly positive changes here and now we are out one more actual "good" cop. I agree that changes need to be made but non-violent ones.
by wondering
What does Shasta County being "corupt" have to do with Officer Mobilio being killed in Red Bluff?
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