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United POLICE States of America (by Latuff)

by Latuff (latuff [at] uninet.com.br)
Copyright-free artwork by Brazilian cartoonist Latuff.
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by Robert Downing Sr
This cartoon is stupid. the artist must like other men.
by Sheepdog
To assume so much with so little.
Wishful thinking?
by we like Latuff
Latuff's Exclusive Interview

Baracão loves its Outreach. Any visit to the EzBoard or the website will end up with the user looking at some kind of image conveying a political message. One of the most effective forms of propaganda is the political cartoon, and one of the most effective political cartoonists in the world today is Carlos Latuff, author of the famous 'We Are All Palestinian' series, depicted the many oppressed people of the world over history (Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, Blacks in South Africa and so on), comparing them all to the oppressed people of Palestine. The State News Agency hereby brings you a world exclusive interview with Carlos Latuff, who we thank very much for his time.

Voice of the Republic: How did you get involved in art? Do you come from an artistic background?
Carlos Latuff: Since the kindergarten, when I won a drawing contest. My prize: a big coloured lollipop. My dream was to be an artist when adult. I don't have exactly an artistic background. There is not an artist among my parents and relatives.

VotR: Which particular movement first grabbed your attention and made you draw politically?
CL: I started political cartooning in 1990, but not for political reasons. I had quit my one-year-job as illustrator in a little advertising company and decided to be a freelancer cartoonist. I was not able to find another job on advertising. Political cartooning for trade-union papers was the only opportunity. Only in 1997, when I saw a documentary on Zapatistas, I launched my first voluntary artistic action.


VotR: You do a lot of artwork showing the plight of the native Mexicans and the corruptness of the Mexican government. What attracts you to the Zapatista movement?
CL: They are a people whom refuse to keep their heads down. It's inspirational.


VotR: What type of opposition from the authorities, whether in your homeland of Brazil, or anywhere else, have you experienced?
CL: I faced many kinds of. I was arrested twice for cartoons and graffitis on police brutality. Few of my cartoons were censored in some trade union papers. When you decide not to follow the System, expect for every kind of censorship.

VotR: Despite the opposition, what inspires you to carry on producing dozens or cartoons?
CL: Thirst of justice. If I have my art as a powerful weapon, I can't see people being oppressed in Chiapas, Burma or Palestine without shooting.

VotR: You have drawn cartoons that show both pro-China (kicking Mickey Mouse) and anti-China (the 'We Are All Palestinian' cartoon showing oppression of the Tibetans). What are you opinions on the government and future of China?
CL: I would not to label that Mickey's cartoon as "pro-China". It's more about a cultural resistance against U.S. propamedia. It could be in Europe or Latin America. That cartoon was broaching specifically the new Disneyland amusement park in China. I don't support imperialist nations. I don't support governments. China is not a standard for me, as well as United States or England.

VotR: What is your opinion on Cuba, in particular Castro's stand against American imperialism?
CL: I am not in love with Castro. Seems a bit too dictatorial for me. However, if Cuba is now a more decent and respectful nation than in the days of U.S. backed Batista, it's because of the revolution started by Castro. I don't like Castro, but he deserves all my respect for everything he is doing for Cuba.

VotR: Politically and artistically, who do you look up to, who are your idols?
CL: No idols. Some artistic references, but no idols. Mad magazine...DC comics...Marvel...Japanese mangas...all that shit. After all, I rejected it and launch a more personal style.

VotR: Conversely, who do you hate and despise politically and artistically?
CL: Reactionary mostly. Conservative. They are behind the wars, dirty business... Prejudices are fed by them. I reject commercial "art". In my point of view, advertising is the art of deception. Companies produce poison, put some colours on it and sell as candies.

VotR: Which is your favourite piece of your artwork, and why?
CL: Hard question...perhaps the last cartoon series "We are all Palestinians". Because it involved a lot of my energies and I believe it's straight to the point.

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:M1pGPNrme5cC:http://www.geocities.com/voiceoftherepublic/+%22Carlos+Latuff%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
by we like Latuff
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by Finger Pointer
Interesting how we never see any political cartoons from Latuff criticizing his own home country or local politics. I wonder if he ever pointed out the political and police corruption in Brazil, the homeless problem and gang violence in Rio de Janeiro, the clear cutting of the rainforests along the Amazon, or increasing high rates of industrial pollution along the coastal cities.

Nope we will never see that from Latuff because he’s quick to point his finger at the US but ignores the problems in his own backyard.
by ..........
actually he does quite often and you are indeed correct to say you are too quick to point the finger. Your viewpoint is typically stereotypical and uninformed, the view of a "critic without a clue"
A few Brazilian cartoons and an interview with Latuff discussing being arrested by Brazilian cops for graffiti:
http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:M1pGPNrme5cC:http://www.geocities.com/voiceoftherepublic/+Carlos+Latuff+cartoons+about+Brazil&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
by Finger Pointer
I went to the link and all the cartoons there were of the “We Are all Palestinians” type. I’ve seen many of Latuffs political cartoons here criticizing the States, Gavin Newsom, the Police Beatings in LA, Israel, etc, but I have yet to see him post one political cartoon of the same sins he criticizes the States that occurs in his native country of Brazil.

As to the question in the article, “What type of opposition from the authorities, whether in your homeland of Brazil, or anywhere else, have you experienced?” I point to where in his answer does he state it was for statements against Brazil. Latuff just states “I was arrested twice for cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.” The problem is “or anywhere else” and he doesn’t state where he was arrested. As far as I know, he could have been arrested in the States for “cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.”

So ….. enlighten me, if “actually he does quite often criticizing” Brazil, show me a couple. Show me 5 or 6 of these cartoons as we see above.

If he can post about the US, surely he can post a couple of the troubles in Brazil.
by Finger Pointer
I went to the link and all the cartoons there were of the “We Are all Palestinians” type. I’ve seen many of Latuffs political cartoons here criticizing the States, Gavin Newsom, the Police Beatings in LA, Israel, etc, but I have yet to see him post one political cartoon of the same sins he criticizes the States that occurs in his native country of Brazil.

As to the question in the article, “What type of opposition from the authorities, whether in your homeland of Brazil, or anywhere else, have you experienced?” I point to where in his answer does he state it was for statements against Brazil. Latuff just states “I was arrested twice for cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.” The problem is “or anywhere else” and he doesn’t state where he was arrested. As far as I know, he could have been arrested in the States for “cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.”

So ….. enlighten me, if “actually he does quite often criticizing” Brazil, show me a couple. Show me 5 or 6 of these cartoons as we see above.

If he can post about the US, surely he can post a couple of the troubles in Brazil.
by um
Latuff mainly posts international pictures here, but he has posted a few good series on Brazil to this site:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/10/153066.php
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/07/137918.php
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/07/137638.php
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/07/137886.php

and there was a long series of black and white photos he did on children who were homeless in Brazil but I cant seem to find the link...

Im sure you are just upset that people internationally hate your boy Newsom. I guess he has to keep selling cheap alcohol here since his image is already pretty bad everywhere else...
by Finger Pointer
But they are not the “5 or 6 of these cartoons as we see above”. Latuff’s political cartoons have a cynical undertone to them. The pictures are no different than what are posted on this site of occurrences in SF and conveys more pity and sympathy than out right anger.

Nice attempt, but try again to find those cartoons for me. And as to my "boy", do you really think news of Care Not Cash has spread internationally and everyone knows about Gavin Newsome? A side from the few thousands that might check this board, the average person with no ties to the Bay Area could really care less about Care Not Cash and Gavin Newsome. Sorry to point this out, but San Francisco is not the center of the universe.
by w&c
Finger Pointer is right. I've seen Latuff's work(?) over the past year or so and he's definately a one-trick pony show.
by um
I you peple hate Latuff that much he MUST be doing something right :)

Anyway, I dont speak Portugese but there seem to be quite a few Latuff comic about local politics:

http://www.velotrol.com.br/velotrol10/bau/velo08/nankin/guerreirodonankin.htm

If you havnt found them on Google, I'm guessing thats because you were searching in English (like I was earlier), try choosing language first and then searching on his name and you will find quite alot.
by Finger Pointer
By if my translation is correct, this is not a criticisms of Brazil, but of the tactic used by the Mexican Guerrillas (I believe government sponsored) in killing 45 natives in Mexico. My geography is a bit off, but Mexico is not Brazil.

And it has nothing to do with “hating” Latuff. What bothers you is that I’m pointing out that Latuff is quick to criticize the policies of other countries and even “local” issues, but he won’t do the same thing in his home country. Latuff points a finger at everyone else except for himself.

Nice try though, try again…
by ........
Latuff is not the whole of Brazil, so I can't see how not pointing fingers at Brazil could be construed as a failure to point fingers at himself. In any case, just how influential is Latuff? Bush is far more likely to influence world events, and his criticisms of abuse of governmental and military power in the name of oppression in HIS country are totally nonexistant, something no one even bothers to remark upon, although his criticisms of foreign countries is loud and most likely to directly influence the life span of hundreds of thousands of people. This is a waste of dialogue. There is every reason to believe Latuff feels the iniquities of Brazil are simply not as likely to affect world events as American and Israeli policies, thus he concentrates his efforts there. There is also reason to believe, as someone has pointed out, that criticisms of Brazil are likely directed to a Brazilian audience and probably published in a different format than English web pages as these would not be accesible to the intended audience.
by ........
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When Latuff criticizes Brazil, it would also appear he is able to make use of actual photography rather than comics medium since he is right there. I found quite a few photos he has taken of the homeless in Rio scattered about the net, such as:
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/07/136452.php (on this very site)
http://www.infoshop.org/picoftheweek.html

these took me all of 5 minutes to find along with this cartoon about Brazilian presidential candidate Jose Serra (the criticism of Brazil in cartoon which you demanded to see). I submit again that you are unaware of and have really not spent that much effort trying to discover his criticisms of his home country, certainly if you were so concerned you would have been able to do this. So I have no option but to think that you really are just attempting a cheap assasination here but are too uninformed to pull it off very well.
by Finger Pointer
“This is a waste of dialogue. There is every reason to believe Latuff feels the iniquities of Brazil are simply not as likely to affect world events as American and Israeli policies, thus he concentrates his efforts there”

Then let me ask you this, why the attack on Gavin Newsom? Do you honestly believe that if Prop N passes it’s going to affect World Events? How will the passage of Prop N affect a person outside the Bay Area, or other states, or other countries such as Canada, Iraq, Brazil, or Sweden? How about the police beatings in LA? How will that affect the international order? The answer, it won’t. If Latuff wants to attack what are either local issues or national issues then it’s only fair to ask the question how critical of his own home country has Latuff been.

You are the one who stated “Your viewpoint is typically stereotypical and uninformed, the view of a "critic without a clue"” and that “actually he does quite often” and too prove me wrong you found 1 example of the political cartoon and considering there has been 2 cartoons on Gavin Newsom, you didn’t do much to prove your point. The photos as I said, they were created for sympathy, not as a political dig. You call it a cheap assassination; I call it point out the truth that you are to blind to admit too.

And as to the 5 minutes thing, I doubt that too, or else you would have posted it first and not have stated “There is also reason to believe, as someone has pointed out, that criticisms of Brazil are likely directed to a Brazilian audience and probably published in a different format than English web pages as these would not be accesible to the intended audience.”
by Hehe
Finger Pointer you are cracking me up.

First from what I can see from the post immediately before this, you lost the argument, Latuff probably does most of his work on Brazilian issues but is so good at making his artwork that he can still cover hundreds of international issues. His photo work is amazing but limited to Brazil since thats where he lives. His international stands are acts of solidarity and help build a more global movement against fascism. While you only hear one side of international solidarity (Americans going to Isreal to stand in front of tanks), support runs both ways. He pays attention to attacks on the homeless here and we pay attention in Brazil.

Secondly, I just realized what you problem is. You are or are good friends with Gavin and cant stand that hatred for him runs across international borders. Get used to it. Look at Gavin, a spoiled brat born into wealth but still trying to get a little more power by attacking the poorest of the poor. He is a perfect symbol of the world's problems. He is a poster child for what the globalization movement is fighting against. Wait until you start seeing people burning effigies of him in the streets of Rome, Barcelona, Buenos Aires or Delhi. If he doesnt want the hatred, maybe he should stop acting like such a creep.
by Finger Pointer
Because you can't address any of the issue regarding Latuff and like most of the egocentric people here in the Bay, you think the world revolves around you and the politics of SF.
by ...........
oh give it up already Finger. Its obvious Latuff does Brazilian issues too. Next time don't unfurl your flag unless you can defend it.
by POLITICS
The 1ST CARTOON IS ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.
FINGER IS BLINDED BY HIS BIAS
by me
FHC é enterrado com honras populares (cartum)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5571

Funcionários da CUT-RJ em GREVE!!!
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5462
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5463
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5464

Tenente-Coronel Vilhena, reitor da UFRJ (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=9351

Viva o Dia da Independencia! (imagem de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=10927

Enquanto voces brigam, eles gostam... (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12038

Capitão Francisco Rohrer: autoridade policial
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12984

Capitão Francisco Rohrer: promotor dos direitos humanos
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12985

500 edições do Jornal do SINTUFRJ (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=13151

SHOW DE TRETAS! (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=13331

Hoje, Argentina. Amanhã, ... (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=14669

Oba! A repressão voltou! (cartum e artigo de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=15541

Geraldo Alckmin prende responsável pelo assassinato do Prefeito de Santo André
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=15551

O Collor de saias vem aí (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=19022

O maior foco da dengue está em BRASÍLIA (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=19121

Homenagem a Henfil (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22124

Não tenho nada contra viados... (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=25312

O Brasil é PENTA! (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=30457

I found these one on IMC Brasil search engine here:
http://brasil.indymedia.org/search-process.php3?medium=image&searchlang=&keyword=latuff

You asked for 5 or 6, and I give you 19. More can be found on Web if you have time and patience. But I am sure you don't...

"...Nice attempt, but try again to find those cartoons for me..."

Probably you are busy enough for a research on Latuff's Brazilian related art. Instead, you prefer readers making the job for ya, while you keep bashing artist for his views on international issues.

"...What bothers you is that I’m pointing out that Latuff is quick to criticize the policies of other countries and even “local” issues, but he won’t do the same thing in his home country..."

Really? Do you know his activities in Brazil? Have you seen Brazilian alternative publications for Latuff's cartoons?

"...Latuff just states “I was arrested twice for cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.” The problem is “or anywhere else” and he doesn’t state where he was arrested...”

Hmmmmmmm...lemme guess...Rwanda? Brisbane? Probably he was arrested in Acapulco...hehehehe!!!

"...So ….. enlighten me, if “actually he does quite often criticizing” Brazil, show me a couple. Show me 5 or 6 of these cartoons as we see above..."

Well, I gave you 19. Now, I'm waiting for a new excuse from you. I am sure you have more hidden in sleeve.

Enlight you? Ha! Even a bright sun of summer can't do it for you, man. You are just another asshole among many (usually supporters of United States and Israel) trying to slander Latuff. Face it! Stop to waste time of readers.

By the way, are you able to find Brazil in a map?
by Me
FHC é enterrado com honras populares (cartum)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5571

Funcionários da CUT-RJ em GREVE!!!
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5462
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5463
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5464

Tenente-Coronel Vilhena, reitor da UFRJ (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=9351

Viva o Dia da Independencia! (imagem de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=10927

Enquanto voces brigam, eles gostam... (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12038

Capitão Francisco Rohrer: autoridade policial
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12984

Capitão Francisco Rohrer: promotor dos direitos humanos
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=12985

500 edições do Jornal do SINTUFRJ (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=13151

SHOW DE TRETAS! (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=13331

Hoje, Argentina. Amanhã, ... (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=14669

Oba! A repressão voltou! (cartum e artigo de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=15541

Geraldo Alckmin prende responsável pelo assassinato do Prefeito de Santo André
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=15551

O Collor de saias vem aí (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=19022

O maior foco da dengue está em BRASÍLIA (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=19121

Homenagem a Henfil (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22124

Não tenho nada contra viados... (por Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=25312

O Brasil é PENTA! (cartum de Latuff)
http://brasil.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=30457

I found these one on IMC Brasil search engine here:
http://brasil.indymedia.org/search-process.php3?medium=image&searchlang=&keyword=latuff

You asked for 5 or 6, and I give you 19. More can be found on Web if you have time and patience. But I am sure you don't...

"...Nice attempt, but try again to find those cartoons for me..."

Probably you are busy enough for a research on Latuff's Brazilian related art. Instead, you prefer readers making the job for ya, while you keep bashing artist for his views on international issues.

"...What bothers you is that I’m pointing out that Latuff is quick to criticize the policies of other countries and even “local” issues, but he won’t do the same thing in his home country..."

Really? Do you know his activities in Brazil? Have you seen Brazilian alternative publications for Latuff's cartoons?

"...Latuff just states “I was arrested twice for cartoons and graffitis on police brutality.” The problem is “or anywhere else” and he doesn’t state where he was arrested...”

Hmmmmmmm...lemme guess...Rwanda? Brisbane? Probably he was arrested in Acapulco...hehehehe!!!

"...So ….. enlighten me, if “actually he does quite often criticizing” Brazil, show me a couple. Show me 5 or 6 of these cartoons as we see above..."

Well, I gave you 19. Now, I'm waiting for a new excuse from you. I am sure you have more hidden in sleeve.

Enlight you? Ha! Even a bright sun of summer can't do it for you, man. You are just another asshole among many (usually supporters of United States and Israel) trying to slander Latuff. Face it! Stop to waste time of readers.

By the way, are you able to find Brazil in a map?
by Finger Pointer
With a big win by the Giants, I’m in a generous mood, so me, I will admit you proved me wrong (copy & paste that all you want). But let me ask you something, do you speak any Portuguese? I’m just curious because either your Portuguese is better than mine or you’re assuming that everything Latuff posted in Portuguese is critical of his native country.

I’m just curious how coverage of a strike over the dismissal of 4 union manager critical and a homage to fellow cartoonist Henfil who died of Aids are critical of Brazil Politics?

But granted you post enough links you are bound to hit get something right (the old shotgun theory). And from what I can tell, (most of the links the images were a 3k gif file and the links to the links were dead) I would say of the 19 you posted you got 2 for sure (actually one of those 2 was quite funny) and maybe another 2 or 3 at best. The others really prove my point more than yours (mostly anti-capitalism and anti-US/Imperialism messages). So to put that in baseball terms, you’re batting .263.

So with help from your buddy from above out of about 22-23 links you got your 6. Good for you.
by I
lEAVE POINTER ALONE, HE OBVIOUSLY CAN NOT CONTAIN HIS JELOUSY AT MR LATUFFS TALENTS.
WORK WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, FINGER!
by Me
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
As I said, you have always an excuse hidden in sleeve...

"...But let me ask you something, do you speak any Portuguese? I’m just curious because either your Portuguese is better than mine or you’re assuming that everything Latuff posted in Portuguese is critical of his native country..."

Meu pai nasceu em Sao Paulo. Eu posso ler, escrever e falar em portugues (My father was born in Sao Paulo. I can read, write and speak in Portuguese).

But, lemme guess...would you like a translation of each article, along comments?
Hahahahahahahaha!

You see? My theory is: nothing can satisfy a troll...
:)
by ........
Takes one to know one.
by Mr. Happy
This guy's 'art' sucks.
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