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NOT IN OUR NAME - Days of Resistance Info
War With out End ? Not In our Name
..Take the Pledge: October 6-7, 2002
New York City, NY | Los Angeles, CA | San Francisco, CA
Boston, MA | Cleveland, OH | Connecticut | Corvallis, OR
North Carolina | Seattle, WA | Wisconsin
National Call To Action Text ....
On Oct. 6, 2002, the anniversary eve of the bombing of Afghanistan - Tell the people of the world that George Bush does NOT speak for everyone in the U.S. Take the Pledge of Resistance and say:
Not in Our Name - War on the World - No War on Iraq!
Not in Our Name - Detentions and Roundups of Muslim,
...............................Arab and South Asian Immigrants
Not in Our Name - Police State Restrictions
NEW YORK CITY
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1-5 p.m., East Meadow, Central Park
(enter at Fifth Avenue and 96th Street)
Tables and displays beginning at 1 p.m.
Write messages to send to people around the world.
We will hear comments from those who have felt the effects of U.S. military actions in other countries and domestic repression in the U.S. We will hear from artists, writers, religious figures, activists and others about why they are taking the Pledge.
At about 3 p.m. we will assemble in a circle to form a gigantic image of the world. Then, as one, we will take the Not in Our Name Pledge of Resistance.
This message of solidarity with the people of the world needs to be heard especially loud from NYC where the deaths of thousands of innocent people on Sept. 11, 2001 have been invoked as justification for the government's actions.
We encourage people across the country, and especially from the East Coast and Mid-West, to come to NYC and make your voice heard on Oct. 6.
Endorsement list in formation. Organizing meetings every Thursday evening;
call or email for location.
For more information and to endorse: info [at] notinourname.net or nycnotinourname [at] yahoo.com or call 212-969-8058.
SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
Details will be posted here soon. See http://www.nionbayarea.net for information
CONTACT: bayareapledge [at] yahoo.com
LOS ANGELES/SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1 p.m.
Gather at Westwood Federal Bulding
(Wilshire and Veteran), Los Angeles.
2 p.m. march to U.S. Army Reserve Training Center/California National Guard Headquarters (Wilshire and Federal).
Weekly meetings on Wednesdays (except Sept. 11), 6:30 p.m.,
Peace Center, 8124 West 3rd Street, Los Angeles (near Crescent Heights Blvd.).
For more information: lanotinourname [at] hotmail.com
or call 310-980-5708 or 310-236-0732.
BOSTON
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park Event.
For info on buses and other activities, contact peace [at] texnology.com.
CLEVELAND, OHIO
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park event.
Tickets are $40 round trip; make out checks to Not in Our Name and write "bus trip" on the memo line. Send to Not in Our Name, PO Box 18841, Cleveland Heights, OH 44118-0841.
Monday, Oct. 7, cultural performances, details to be announced.
For more information on buses and events, no_more_war_us [at] yahoo.com.
CONNECTICUT
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park event.
Contact nionewhaven [at] aol.com or call 1-800-770-9067.
Monday, Oct. 7 - Details will be posted soon.
Contact Connecticut Peace Coalition/New Haven, connecticutpeacecoalition [at] hotmail.com or call
203-498-8185. Call for meeting information.
CORVALLIS, OREGON
NOT IN OUR NAME: A community rally for peace and justice
October 6, 2002, 2-4 p.m.
Benton County Courthouse grounds
Alternatives to War and other area organizations are sponsoring a community rally for peace and justice, NOT IN OUR NAME, on October 6.
NOT IN OUR NAME is a national grassroots movement which objects to the militarization of U.S. foreign policy. On October 7, 2001, U.S. bombs began to fall on Afghanistan. October 6 and 7 have been designated nation-wide days of peaceful dissent to continued U.S. military actions in Afghanistan, threats to invade Iraq and other nations, the build-up of U.S. military presence throughout the world, and loss of civil liberties both domestically and internationally.
SPEAKERS:
Keynote speakers: Ann and Bruce Huntwork of the Mennonite Central Committee who recently spent six months in Tehran and Mashhad,
Iran, where they worked with the Iranian Red Crescent Society (IRCS) to report on material aid distributed to Afghan refugees and internally
displaced Afghans.
Solidarity statements from representatives of the Muslim community, area youth, Unheard Voices, Oregon PeaceWorks, Wrench (OSU
student organization), and others.
Music:
BALAFON, legendary marimba band
SAMUSSON AND TOMASSI, NW songwriters and singers of "songs in service of grassroots america."
LAURIE CHILDERS, Corvallis area songwriter and singer.
Reading: The Beasts' Confusion, by Roger Weaver
Representative Peter DeFazio, invited
Please participate in this opportunity for grassroots democracy. Tabling, discussion, networking, opportunities to contact elected officials, and
conviviality will follow the rally as BALAFON's uplifting music fills us with optimism and hope for a peaceful future.
Tabling and endorsements are welcome. Please contact us if your group would like to table (please bring your own table) and/or endorse the
event.
For further information: Carol Alexander - calex [at] peak.org
From NOT IN OUR NAME pledge: "We pledge to make common cause with the people of the world to bring about justice, freedom and peace. Another world is possible and we pledge to make it real."
NORTH CAROLINA
Sunday, Oct. 6, 10:15 a.m.,
Chapel Hill Friends Meeting, 531 Raleigh Road, Chapel Hill,
forum on why we need to be active and what we can do.
For more information: notinournamenc [at] yahoo.com or call 539-0015.
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1 p.m. Rally at Volunteer Park Amphitheater (10th Ave. E
and E Prospect St., near the north end of Broadway in Capitol Hill). 3 p.m.
March to Westlake Center (4th and Pine, downtown Seattle).
For more information: seattle_notinourname [at] speedymail.org or call
206-984-6256. For latest details, check out http://www.notinourname-seattle.net
WISCONSIN
Sunday, Oct. 6, LaCrosse, noon rally at Riverside Park,
simultaneous with NYC Central Park event.
Monday, Oct. 7, Eckhardt Park, Viroqua, 5-8 p.m., community potluck,
sing-along, candle-light pledge vigil
For more information: kickapoonion [at] care2.com or call 608-624-3800.
New York City, NY | Los Angeles, CA | San Francisco, CA
Boston, MA | Cleveland, OH | Connecticut | Corvallis, OR
North Carolina | Seattle, WA | Wisconsin
National Call To Action Text ....
On Oct. 6, 2002, the anniversary eve of the bombing of Afghanistan - Tell the people of the world that George Bush does NOT speak for everyone in the U.S. Take the Pledge of Resistance and say:
Not in Our Name - War on the World - No War on Iraq!
Not in Our Name - Detentions and Roundups of Muslim,
...............................Arab and South Asian Immigrants
Not in Our Name - Police State Restrictions
NEW YORK CITY
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1-5 p.m., East Meadow, Central Park
(enter at Fifth Avenue and 96th Street)
Tables and displays beginning at 1 p.m.
Write messages to send to people around the world.
We will hear comments from those who have felt the effects of U.S. military actions in other countries and domestic repression in the U.S. We will hear from artists, writers, religious figures, activists and others about why they are taking the Pledge.
At about 3 p.m. we will assemble in a circle to form a gigantic image of the world. Then, as one, we will take the Not in Our Name Pledge of Resistance.
This message of solidarity with the people of the world needs to be heard especially loud from NYC where the deaths of thousands of innocent people on Sept. 11, 2001 have been invoked as justification for the government's actions.
We encourage people across the country, and especially from the East Coast and Mid-West, to come to NYC and make your voice heard on Oct. 6.
Endorsement list in formation. Organizing meetings every Thursday evening;
call or email for location.
For more information and to endorse: info [at] notinourname.net or nycnotinourname [at] yahoo.com or call 212-969-8058.
SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
Details will be posted here soon. See http://www.nionbayarea.net for information
CONTACT: bayareapledge [at] yahoo.com
LOS ANGELES/SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1 p.m.
Gather at Westwood Federal Bulding
(Wilshire and Veteran), Los Angeles.
2 p.m. march to U.S. Army Reserve Training Center/California National Guard Headquarters (Wilshire and Federal).
Weekly meetings on Wednesdays (except Sept. 11), 6:30 p.m.,
Peace Center, 8124 West 3rd Street, Los Angeles (near Crescent Heights Blvd.).
For more information: lanotinourname [at] hotmail.com
or call 310-980-5708 or 310-236-0732.
BOSTON
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park Event.
For info on buses and other activities, contact peace [at] texnology.com.
CLEVELAND, OHIO
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park event.
Tickets are $40 round trip; make out checks to Not in Our Name and write "bus trip" on the memo line. Send to Not in Our Name, PO Box 18841, Cleveland Heights, OH 44118-0841.
Monday, Oct. 7, cultural performances, details to be announced.
For more information on buses and events, no_more_war_us [at] yahoo.com.
CONNECTICUT
Sunday, Oct. 6 - buses to NYC Central Park event.
Contact nionewhaven [at] aol.com or call 1-800-770-9067.
Monday, Oct. 7 - Details will be posted soon.
Contact Connecticut Peace Coalition/New Haven, connecticutpeacecoalition [at] hotmail.com or call
203-498-8185. Call for meeting information.
CORVALLIS, OREGON
NOT IN OUR NAME: A community rally for peace and justice
October 6, 2002, 2-4 p.m.
Benton County Courthouse grounds
Alternatives to War and other area organizations are sponsoring a community rally for peace and justice, NOT IN OUR NAME, on October 6.
NOT IN OUR NAME is a national grassroots movement which objects to the militarization of U.S. foreign policy. On October 7, 2001, U.S. bombs began to fall on Afghanistan. October 6 and 7 have been designated nation-wide days of peaceful dissent to continued U.S. military actions in Afghanistan, threats to invade Iraq and other nations, the build-up of U.S. military presence throughout the world, and loss of civil liberties both domestically and internationally.
SPEAKERS:
Keynote speakers: Ann and Bruce Huntwork of the Mennonite Central Committee who recently spent six months in Tehran and Mashhad,
Iran, where they worked with the Iranian Red Crescent Society (IRCS) to report on material aid distributed to Afghan refugees and internally
displaced Afghans.
Solidarity statements from representatives of the Muslim community, area youth, Unheard Voices, Oregon PeaceWorks, Wrench (OSU
student organization), and others.
Music:
BALAFON, legendary marimba band
SAMUSSON AND TOMASSI, NW songwriters and singers of "songs in service of grassroots america."
LAURIE CHILDERS, Corvallis area songwriter and singer.
Reading: The Beasts' Confusion, by Roger Weaver
Representative Peter DeFazio, invited
Please participate in this opportunity for grassroots democracy. Tabling, discussion, networking, opportunities to contact elected officials, and
conviviality will follow the rally as BALAFON's uplifting music fills us with optimism and hope for a peaceful future.
Tabling and endorsements are welcome. Please contact us if your group would like to table (please bring your own table) and/or endorse the
event.
For further information: Carol Alexander - calex [at] peak.org
From NOT IN OUR NAME pledge: "We pledge to make common cause with the people of the world to bring about justice, freedom and peace. Another world is possible and we pledge to make it real."
NORTH CAROLINA
Sunday, Oct. 6, 10:15 a.m.,
Chapel Hill Friends Meeting, 531 Raleigh Road, Chapel Hill,
forum on why we need to be active and what we can do.
For more information: notinournamenc [at] yahoo.com or call 539-0015.
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON
Sunday, Oct. 6, 1 p.m. Rally at Volunteer Park Amphitheater (10th Ave. E
and E Prospect St., near the north end of Broadway in Capitol Hill). 3 p.m.
March to Westlake Center (4th and Pine, downtown Seattle).
For more information: seattle_notinourname [at] speedymail.org or call
206-984-6256. For latest details, check out http://www.notinourname-seattle.net
WISCONSIN
Sunday, Oct. 6, LaCrosse, noon rally at Riverside Park,
simultaneous with NYC Central Park event.
Monday, Oct. 7, Eckhardt Park, Viroqua, 5-8 p.m., community potluck,
sing-along, candle-light pledge vigil
For more information: kickapoonion [at] care2.com or call 608-624-3800.
For more information:
http://www.notinourname.net
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Yesterdays rally In Central Park was an excellent start. I don't think at this early stage Vietnam opposition was this large. Keep the message simple. Don't be sectarian or duped.
Thanks George
Thanks George
Use http://www.nowars.us bulletin boards to post anti-war events, narratives, and how to build signs information.
It's a non-profit site.
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"Revolutionary Communist Party" is the cult that set up "Not in Our Name" As much as protesting is important, it is also important that people not be lied to. Mary Lou Greenberg the spokeswoman for NION is a top RCP leader.
Now, what many people do not know is that RCP has a real sleazy history.
RCP HAS DONE ALL THE FOLLOWING
1. Supported the Pol Pot mass murder of over 3 millon people in Cambodia. At the time RCP called this slaughter a "legitimate revolutionary action".
2. Like Pol Pot RCP are Maoist crazies who also wear buttons of their other genocidal hero Stalin master of the murderous gulags in Soviet Union
3. Give a large percentage of their salaries and monies raised to their cult leader Bob Avakian who they call the chairman. Avakian lives in a huge edifice n France,swigs booze all the time and lives high off the hogs all the while masquarading as a "revolutionary leader" He now hasa the nickame "wine-women& song" just like Jim & Tammy Baker did !
4. Supported the vicious killers of Socialist Union organizers in Peru called Sendero Luminoso. The Sendero in the name of some Maoist revolution butchered Indians in Peru !
5. For a long period of years openly kept gays from joining the RCP. In fact Avakian has termed homosexuality "a degenerate disease from rotting capitalism" .In fact the National Lawyers Guild voted because of the homophopbia of Avakian & co is so reactionary and fascist no member of the NLG should defend any member of the RCP.
So all this speaks for itself, and indeed any sane open eyed progressive who wants to struggle sshould have nothing to do with RCP and NION. The fact as has been proven time and time again in other struggles is that the RCP has one goal only. To recruit through deception unknowing misguided people into its small cult operating out of its various bookstores, or Refuse & Resist another front group.
Spread this message far and wide so people will really know who the RCP & NION
Trying to portray RCP & NION as damaged goods because of stuff that happened around Pol Pot is ancient history, I hate to tell you.
These days, the people who are involved are working their butts off to fight war and fascism.
If you applied your 'rules' to all other political parties, the democrats and republicans would also be 'out,' since they killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people with their wars and bombings in the name of corporations and defense industries.
These days, the people who are involved are working their butts off to fight war and fascism.
If you applied your 'rules' to all other political parties, the democrats and republicans would also be 'out,' since they killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people with their wars and bombings in the name of corporations and defense industries.
From whatr i've read NION has participated here in anti-semitic Death to Israel marches with Moslem extremist groups that publish material on their website denying the Holocaust.
Anyone that supports the mass murder of Jews in Israel is a Jew-Hater and a racist against Jews.Some of the posters given out a Fransisco State were openly anti-semitic blood libel style propaganda saying Jews bake their Matzas on Passover with blood of Arabs.
That is what the anti-semitic clergymen said verbatim during the Middle Ages.
Solunds like NION is attracting the same kind of low life ignorant trash that the Ku Klux Klan use to recruit.
Ignorant fools.
Anyway any self respecting Jews should stay away from this group whose main goal is the physical a
destruction of Israel
In brief if NION & RCP so called "progressives" could dupport the Pol Pot murder of 3 million Cambodian than they were and are apologists for murder who should be shunned.
Further if Bubba ( guru) Avakian their cult leader is getting rich off all this then clearly they are phonies to be avoided like the plague,and as they were in the 80's and 90's.
Internal RCP documents reveal that there is all kinds
of sleazy things happening with the "Children of Bob"
who have made Stalin the evil into their hero.
That speaks to me volumes about how some people want to gloss over the sleazy history of the cult of Avakian.
You must be doing something right when the FBI does everything it can to discredit you.
There are plenty of problems with lefty groups and we all know what they are. But there is a war about to start so Im guessing any attempts at destroying the tactical unity of the protest movement are not coming out of legitimate concerns. Those who have serious issues with NION or ANSWER should work hard to build alternatives but right now they are doing the best work so until we have alternatives...
There are plenty of problems with lefty groups and we all know what they are. But there is a war about to start so Im guessing any attempts at destroying the tactical unity of the protest movement are not coming out of legitimate concerns. Those who have serious issues with NION or ANSWER should work hard to build alternatives but right now they are doing the best work so until we have alternatives...
lots of people who are aware of these connections are not happy with the supposed leadership. Most people are not aware of the rcp, WWP connections of these groups though, and that is why it can be so difficult to even discover that there is a 'front group' type of relationship, so there is a really pretty small level of communist propagandizing at the events.
I thought about it a while, and I decided that it is infeasible to boycott events that communists go to. What is much more reasonable is to allow the large number of normal progressives who go to these IAC events to take more democratic control over the message. People should show up with their smaller group, and have a big banner or sign for their contingent in the march. - people will see 'Fremont neighbors for peace' or 'berkeley anarchists' rather than a sea of Int'l Answer signs as though everyone is part of the borg. If you are just an individual showing up, wear something that shows your individual message, and have your own sign rather than a preprinted one. At the beginning and end points of the march where typically there are 2-3 hours of speeches both before and after walking, don't just stand there in the herd listening and strictly following the schedule that IAC has laid out for you. Listen to the good speakers, but spend the rest of the time interacting with people and bring activities to do whether it is setting up a book and pamphlet table, bringing a sound system and starting a dance party, or doing crafts or small dramatic events. Also, realize that the pleas from the stage for you to stay longer for extra hours doesn't really help the event. It's important for everyone to be there during the actual march because that is when they get crowd estimates, but IAC events often go from 10am to 5pm and stretching it out for extra minutes doesn't do anything especially if you're not engaged in actual free speech. So stay for an hour or two, and then go away and do something useful for an actual activity oriented activist group.
I thought about it a while, and I decided that it is infeasible to boycott events that communists go to. What is much more reasonable is to allow the large number of normal progressives who go to these IAC events to take more democratic control over the message. People should show up with their smaller group, and have a big banner or sign for their contingent in the march. - people will see 'Fremont neighbors for peace' or 'berkeley anarchists' rather than a sea of Int'l Answer signs as though everyone is part of the borg. If you are just an individual showing up, wear something that shows your individual message, and have your own sign rather than a preprinted one. At the beginning and end points of the march where typically there are 2-3 hours of speeches both before and after walking, don't just stand there in the herd listening and strictly following the schedule that IAC has laid out for you. Listen to the good speakers, but spend the rest of the time interacting with people and bring activities to do whether it is setting up a book and pamphlet table, bringing a sound system and starting a dance party, or doing crafts or small dramatic events. Also, realize that the pleas from the stage for you to stay longer for extra hours doesn't really help the event. It's important for everyone to be there during the actual march because that is when they get crowd estimates, but IAC events often go from 10am to 5pm and stretching it out for extra minutes doesn't do anything especially if you're not engaged in actual free speech. So stay for an hour or two, and then go away and do something useful for an actual activity oriented activist group.
At the NION rally on October 6, it looked like almost everyone had their own signs. There was an incredible diversity of opinion and people.
>Some of the posters given out a Fransisco State were openly anti-semitic blood libel style propaganda saying Jews bake their Matzas on Passover with blood of Arabs.
Scan it in and post it to this thread. Post with it a photo of yourself being handed the flier. Make sure it shows the demo in the background. Demonstrate in some credible fashion that the person handing it to you wasn't a Zionist disinformation agent.
Then maybe, just maybe, we'll believe you.
Until then, no way. We've heard this kind of crap before. Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us.
Scan it in and post it to this thread. Post with it a photo of yourself being handed the flier. Make sure it shows the demo in the background. Demonstrate in some credible fashion that the person handing it to you wasn't a Zionist disinformation agent.
Then maybe, just maybe, we'll believe you.
Until then, no way. We've heard this kind of crap before. Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us.
See the poster here, http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/127902.php
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/128582.php
Michael Pugliese
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/128582.php
Michael Pugliese
See the poster here, http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/127902.php
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/128582.php
Michael Pugliese
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/05/128582.php
Michael Pugliese
How do we know it's not black propaganda?
a big crowd at an event isn't the determining factor for whether or not an events successful. 100,000 people might go to a football game.
what will determine our success is not if 20,000 people turn out on saturday. that might make us feel better, but what will determine our success is if we are able to intervene in the u.s. government's decision to invade iraq.
if the highest expression of our resistance is a lot of people walking at the answer or nion demos and listening to lefty superstars make speeches, we haven't done enough. and we aren't shouldering our responsibilty as global citizens to stop the u.s. government from the unspeakable acts of destruction it is planning.
big marches are important for lower level participation and are necessary compenents. but we must use them to build a larger base of people willing to go the extra step and push things to the next level.
among other things, this will help create the political climate that more people will attend the bigger march, next time.
all peeps is sponsoring a direct action a few days after the 26th demo, on the 29th. we will use the anticipated big turnout to build for it. if several hundred people show up to this, please check out our news story here.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/10/1535577
hope to see you in person on the 26th and, more importantly the 29th!
matthew willis
organizer for all peeps.
what will determine our success is not if 20,000 people turn out on saturday. that might make us feel better, but what will determine our success is if we are able to intervene in the u.s. government's decision to invade iraq.
if the highest expression of our resistance is a lot of people walking at the answer or nion demos and listening to lefty superstars make speeches, we haven't done enough. and we aren't shouldering our responsibilty as global citizens to stop the u.s. government from the unspeakable acts of destruction it is planning.
big marches are important for lower level participation and are necessary compenents. but we must use them to build a larger base of people willing to go the extra step and push things to the next level.
among other things, this will help create the political climate that more people will attend the bigger march, next time.
all peeps is sponsoring a direct action a few days after the 26th demo, on the 29th. we will use the anticipated big turnout to build for it. if several hundred people show up to this, please check out our news story here.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/10/1535577
hope to see you in person on the 26th and, more importantly the 29th!
matthew willis
organizer for all peeps.
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