UCB: "Not in Our Name", 9/11 Moment of Silence
No, many activist like their counterparts who exploit opportunities commercially on the backs of the suffering of mankind will not give an inch to compassion. We cannot take time on this day to honor those who died that did not wish to do so or those that gave their lives to save others.
You are as incompassionate and uncaring as those that you accuse.
Lets Roll...
Lets Roll...
War Geek
If you lost someone, then fine, mourn, but don't try to tell others what they can and can't do.
Bush did it.
The first war with Iraq that destroyed that country and unconditional support for Israel are the sorts of things that made us targets for terrorist attacks in the first place. We were not targetted first. We targetted them first. You reap what you sow.
It's not love it or leave it. It's love it or change it. THAT'S DEMOCRACY!
Why in the hell didn't those fuckers drive planes into Kalifornia places? Where all the sickies live? You, for instance. Why does SHIT like you still live and breathe our air?
Do you really know just how hated you shits really are? The war isn't going to be just between us and them. It's going to be between you and me. We're going to end up having to kill you pieces of shit because you keep backing our enemies. Sometimes I think death is what you really want, though.
If you don't want to be killed, don't go around killing.
And if you support killing people in the Middle East for "US interests" (which are beginning to look very much like another country's interests), then don't whine about it when it comes right back at us.
war geek
It's people like you who are endangering us all. You just want to let our government run amok and do whatever it wants to anyone anywhere. That's neither
going to make us liked or safer. Taking back our country and making the government act with our morals and sense of justice will make us safer. This is called democracy.
You're the one putting us all in harms way...
BITCH.
Saudi Arabia, like Iraq, is run by a rich dictator that uses secret police and military force to keep the people "in line."
If war is not the answer to freeing Iraqies from their dictator, what is?
Moreover, how do we help the imprisoned people of Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Jordan? (or Palestine, maybe time for "regieme change" in Israel as well...)
You people are the ones who are forcing depravity on us, and you want to convince me youll do good for this country? And how can you help us when the other side of your neck is selling us out? You people are nuts. Queers, Jesse Jackson, McKinney, Daddys GONE hehehe by the way, election stealing, quotas, Farakahn, ecoterrorists, political correctness, crooked judges, zero tolerance, gun control, trying to take my hard earned money and giving it to a useless dope freak, OJ Simpson-I haven't scratched the surface on why we're going to have to go to war with you useless fuckers. All we have to show for liberalism is Sodom and Gomorrah. Why we've tolerated you shits for so long I don't know. It's time we got our heads out of our asses. You either choose America or fucking die with your muslim friends.
It's pretty simple really. Stop killing them and supporting their main enemy (that is join the international consensus on Israel) and we won't have to worry about terrorism. Killing more of "them" in wars is not going to make us safer. Sorry.
And trying to kill all of "them" will not only NOT make us safer, it will make us Nazis and even more targetted.
It's time to go to war. I've had enough of you useless piles of shit. I've had enough of your constant petty demands, and I've had enough of you queers. You don't likeit? Tough shit, traitor.
You are failing horribly John Q. Public, you who won't even post under a consistant name on this board, and it is you, despite your 'ultra-american' views and banter that is the true threat to the legacy of this nation.
And my Jewish friend who screams of anti-semitism so eagerly, I urge you for your own benefit to not devaluate the meaning of that word by using it so generously or to be prepared for an increasingly insignificant response to it the more it becomes your adjective of choice.
Where can we get those great Black t-shirts???
I could go on for hours cataloging all those killed by U.S. Imperialism. During the two hours that the event at U.C. lasted, probably 3,000 children around the world died of malnutrition and easily preventable or curable diseases. Most of these children would not have died but for U.S.-imposed austerity policies which cajole the govenments of those countries into sending wealth out to the U.S. and other imperialist countries rather than using them for clean water, health care, etc.
Our Grief over these ongoing murders should, indeed, be a Call for War -- World War against capitalism, imperialism, and the U.S. ruling class!
Signed,
some punk who tells it like it is
Here is a bit of TRUTH for this person. We are ALL Americans, regardless of our anti or pro war views.
It is this kind of ultra-patriotic jingoism that makes us all targets. The 'eye for an eye' philosophy is the same downward spiral that Isreal and Paletine are on. People who call for peace in this time have far more raw COURAGE than the blood thirtsy loser who wraps himself in the flag so that he kill for his 'colors', like some corporate gang banger.
I also found it especially amusing to read his comment about a tolerant democracy. I assume that tolerance is only extended when we agree to HIS views.
If nothing else, this guy is great example of the type of thinking that will get more people slaughtered. Too bad it won't be his blood.
You get the picture.
The pity is that while we, the scum sucking liberals FIGHT for FREEDOM here at home, we are also fighting for this assholes privelege to BE an asshole. How ironic. But at least something usefull comes out of an ass. The same is not true of this sad little person....
You get the picture.
The pity is that while we, the scum sucking liberals FIGHT for FREEDOM here at home, we are also fighting for this assholes privelege to BE an asshole. How ironic. But at least something usefull comes out of an ass. The same is not true of this sad little person....
Yeah, the liberals around here are a dream come true for the skinheads. Blood brothers. Rise up, bad boy. I'm SO scared. Ya want a little intifada? GREAT! It's long overdue to rid the planet of traitors and girlymen freaks.
You perverts couldn't fight your way out of a colostomy bag. Not that you'd want to.
And leftist-elites call right-wingers simple?
Their dicators kill them and neighboring Islamic nations kill them, but the US has not killed a single arab in the ME between the Gulf War (which was a war, as you remember, to stop Saddam from genociding the Shiites and absorbing a sovereign nation into Iraq) and the war in Afghanistan. We have power hungry terrorist leaders who figured out the best way controll the masses is to prop up an enemy (the US and Israel) to redirect the hatred.
Now I know you guys think should the Jews assimilate back into all the civilizations that kicked them out, but according to multicultural logic, the Jews deserve a country as much as the next ethnicly seperate group. It doesn't matter that they have tried to give Palestinians (read: ex-Syrains and Jordanians) a state in a fashion that wouldn't assure self-destruction. It doesn't matter that every arab nation has refused refuge to the palestinian refugees. It doesn't matter that the arab countrys which formely controlled the land on which Israel now sits never offered the palestinians their own state.
All that matters is that they are J-E-W-S, they are armed, and they have kicked the Arab militaries collective asses twice. These terrorist nations don't give a flying fig about the palestinians--if they did they wouldn't keep them in refugee camps for 50 years-- they just hate having jews in the middle-east.
Geez, if the US sends foriegn aid to nations, it is supporting the evil regime, but if it imposes sanctions it is starving its citizens. The sooner you guys figure out that tin-pot dictators and religious zealots bent on power are the problem, and not the shining beacon of freedom and liberty known as the US, the better.
Could it be these zionists have a conscience? Want to live in peace with it's neighbors? They've given back the Sinai Penisula even though it could have kept it if they WANTED it, and they could go in with tanks and bulldoze Gaza if they WANTED to. Yet they didn't want either, which makes you wonder what their motives are, doens't it?
2) Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.
3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"
4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."
5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6) When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."
7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8) Punch him in the face again, harder this time.
Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to hit back. Because if we don't, this is what the world will look like if the Taliban wins --
See Dick bitch. See Dick run. Don't be a Dickhead!
this is a comment that was written by another but it says it like it is. and you want to volunteer for the experiment let me know!!!!!!!!!! fuck the bay area
2) Engage in brief conversation, ask if military force is appropriate.
3) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"
4) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."
5) When he's in mid sentence, punch him in the face as hard as you can.
6) When he gets back up to up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would, "be awful and he should not cause more violence."
7) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.
8) Punch him in the face again, harder this time.
Repeat steps 5 through 8 until they understand that sometimes it is necessary to hit back. Because if we don't, this is what the world will look like if the Taliban wins --
See Dick bitch. See Dick run. Don't be a Dickhead!
this is a comment that was written by another but it says it like it is. and you want to volunteer for the experiment let me know!!!!!!!!!! fuck the bay area
They were opposed to fighting against the South. There were draft riots in New York. Remember? The south had done Northerners no harm. Who cared about slaves? Very, very few. Why do you think there were so many attempts at compromises with the South?
Because people JUST LIKE YOU were afraid of what it would mean. It was too dangerous! "Not in my name!"
Then along came Abraham Lincoln. A guy that many sophisticates thought was a fool, a dimbulb. But ordinary people understood how dangerous it was to allow the country to be split asunder. They understood how immoral it was to allow slavery to spread. They weren't lusting for war. But there was no choice.
So which side would you have been on in 1861?
Who is going to fight this war? You? I doubt it.
Who is telling us to go to war? The President?
Ah. And what is HIS war experience, exactly? 1 year missing (read: AWOL) from active duty?
2 words for you name-calling hypocrits: GROW UP
No casualties in Afghanistan and the Gulf War (Thess)? What planet are you on?
Who is going to fight this war? You? I doubt it.
Who is telling us to go to war? The President?
Ah. And what is HIS war experience, exactly? 1 year missing (read: AWOL) from active duty?
2 words for you name-calling hypocrits: GROW UP
How can you mourn their loss while at the same time thinking they got what they deserved?
I see thousands spent on therapy in your future.
How can you mourn their loss while at the same time thinking they got what they deserved?
I see thousands spent on therapy in your future.
it's called having understanding. You can feel bad for a kid who did something stupid and got hurt, you know. Not types like you, being malicious and spiteful - obviously this is beyond your comprehension. Perhaps this is why you come here.
Billy boy.
What a sanctimonious asshole you are.
And yes, you have a point, it's right to mourn the loss of those you think may be wrong, but in this case I seriously doubt that is what is happening.
I've seen too many times in my life American protesters cheering the death of American lives.
The only difference between this most recent rash of "anti-war protesters" (read anti-capitalist, anti-american) and the others is that they sense the rest of the country will not put up with their constant whining this time around, so in order to not get their ass kicked and be able to protest at the same time they've come up with this cute gimmick. You know these people "in mourning" in these pictures were having a jolly good time on the morning of 9/11/01, drinking shade grown coffee and laughing about how America finally got it's comeuppance.
You may call it "understanding", I call it "hypocrisy".
"Stop whining and complaining about the 9-11 dead. They are nothing more than Collateral damage. Nothing more. "
And yet, somehow he can mourn their loss? Is that what you're saying? Please man, I know some nice men who can help you.
Extension of your logic means that since you post here you agree with every single opinion expressed. That would make you one truly fucked up and confused m.f. which is no doubt the case.
but this cowtowing, kumbayah singing, so-called peace movement, that refuses to be can't be seen publically in opposition to bush's campaign of murder and terror, without first prefacing it with some kind of sloganeering about "grief" for the victims of 9-11 is really pathetic.
this liberal feel good movement, which seems more terrified of those of us on the "left" who want to get to the roots of whats going on and do something about it -- than they are of the policies they claim to oppose, is really pathetic.
we white people can choose to give a shit or not about the thousands upon thousands that are killed as a direct result of government's adventures to keep our gas tanks full, our malls filled with goodies, and our grocery stores stuffed with organic food.
but when white people start to die as a result our government's violence, it is put out as a DEMAND that the entire world feel this pain. they can cheer in the streets when iraqi children get bombed, when our government stuffs black people in concentration camps called prisons, but anyone who doesn't mourn well enough is a terrorist! its so arrogant and revolting. and equally revolting is how the white left liberal movement buckles to this line.
so now we are targets to. maybe this will help us wake up to the reality the rest of the world is faced with every day.
some reactionary in here is trying to prove that all of us who protest the bush regime's war of terror are terrorists ourselves. he proves this by trying to demonstrate how our "grief" isn't authentic enough. he thinks we are "traitors" and he would give the government the power to scoop all of us up, put us on secret trials, detain us without charging us of a crime, etc. why? because he's a patriotic american. i'm not being facetious. its true. he is.
this is what america is about. its been about this for a long time, long before bush let some planes collide with some buildings last year. this guys just being honest, and good for him. american patriots lynch and murder and rape and steal and cheer on their government for lynching murdering raping and stealing. american patriot believe america is so filthy rich because god likes us best or we have an advanced notion of democracy, not because we killed an entire continent of people to steal their land and took another one hostage and made them work like farm animals for centuries. american patriots round up those that don't look white enough or disagree with them and say there doing it to protect freedom. thats what american patriotism is about.
in all peeps we say we don't play that game. when we get confronted with this we don't say "we are in grief! we'll prove it by holding more candles!" we say "It is YOU and your thug-president george bush who are the terrorists!" we don' t turn the other cheek, unless its in the process of delivering a right hook! (malcolm x said that of course)
it is chicken shit punks who are the ones trying to hold up a dying world; ready to chew their own arm off like a wolf in a trap, as demonstrated in the way our government sacrificed thousands of its own civilians and its infrastructure last year. it is they who should be on the defensive! not us!
anyone who's tired of holding candles and feeling somber and who wants to really end the worst terrorism there is in the history of the world, u.s. imperalism and colonialism. anyone who wants to build a world of peace founded on social justice, not just a lack of tension, needs to email all peeps at allpeepsco [at] yahoo.com
and finally read this:
> A MINUTE OF SILENCE FOR EVERYONE?
>
> If you are still shaken by the horrifying scenes of
> September 11, please observe a moment of silence for
>
> the 5,000 civilian lives lost in the New York,
> Washington, DC and Pennsylvania attacks.
>
> While we're at it, let's have 13 minutes of silence
> for the 130,000 Iraqi civilians killed in 1991 by
> order of President Bush, Sr. Take another moment to
> remember how Americans celebrated and cheered
> in the streets.
>
> Now another 20 minutes of silence for the 200,000
> Iranians killed by Iraqi soldiers using weapons and
> money provided to young Saddam Hussein by the
> American government before the great eagle turned
>
> all its power against Iraq.
>
> Another 15 minutes of silence for the Russians and
> 150,000 Afghans killed by troops supported and
> trained by the CIA.
>
> Plus 10 minutes of silence for 300,000 Japanese
> killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the Atomic
>
> bombs dropped by the USA.
>
> We've just kept quiet for one hour: one minute for
> the Americans killed in NY, DC, and Pennsylvania,
>
> 59 minutes for their victims throughout the world.
>
>
> If you are still in awe, let's have another hour of
> silence for all those killed in Vietnam, which is
> not something Americans like to admit.
>
>
>
> The US went to another continent thousands of miles
>
> away and burnt tens of thousands of Vietnamese
>
> peasants with napalm.
>
> Or for the massacre in Panama in 1989, where
> American troops attacked poor villagers, leaving
> 20,000
> Panamanians homeless and thousands more dead.
>
> Or for the millions of children who have died
> because of the USA embargoes on Iraq and Cuba.
>
> Or the hundreds of thousands brutally murdered
> throughout the world by US-sponsored civil wars
> and coups d'etat (Chile, Argentina, Uruguay,
> Bolivia,
> Guatemala, El Salvador to name a few).
>
> Maybe, and although the memory of Americans claims
> otherwise, someone may remember the USA attack on
> Baghdad where 1800 civilians were killed. Did
> someone see it on CNN? Was justice ever served? Or
> was
> there even any retaliation?
>
> We hope that we Americans finally begin to
> understand our vulnerability and the attacks and
> other
> tragedies that have been caused around the world.
>
> The dead in other places hurt as much as the dead
> of the Towers, maybe even more!
>
> What about the 560,000 Iraqi children (as per
> current UN data) who have died as a direct cause of
>
> the US supported sanctions against Iraq? Are these
>
> the children of a lesser God?
>
> What about a new generation of nearly one million
> Iraqi children who are currently having their lives
>
> being ruined by improper nutrition, lack of medicine
>
> and inferior education because of
> US supported sanctions.
>
> Now, let's talk about terrorism, shall we?
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
alled zionist
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
alled zionist
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
alled zionist
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
and the Tragedy about it is they are doing what Hitler did to them in the holocaust Shame that american bombs are killing innocent children that can only defend themselves with rocks and their courageous spirit.
Free Palestine
okay now hey yasser you big p.o.s. how giving me money back. there are a lot of things that have to cleaned up here. oh and how bout we get our cash back from every other p.o.s. 3rd world country what with trying to reduce our influence.... or does not continue along with the p.c. logic?
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