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Pictures of arrests

by richard

Tue, May 28, 2002 12:08AM

A montage of pictures from the Golden Gate Bridge protest.

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§Unbelievable

by NoWar

Tue, May 28, 2002 7:08AM

I live in the middle of the country now, but I was raised in Northern California. I lived in The City in the sixties and seventies and also in Marin and Mendocino, so I am very familiar with the Bay Area. I am absolutely shocked about this story of what happened on the Golden Gate. Unbelievable, this is simply unbelievable. Is there any legal action you can take to insure this won't happen at the next protest? Whether you can or not, organize another protest and make your voices heard.

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§i just want to know

by IIIIII

Tue, May 28, 2002 8:36AM

I just want to know, how can we expect to change anything with people trying and succeeding to turn us against each other?

It's hopeless!!!!

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§Mr.

by Michael Kemper (mckemper84 [at] hotmail.com)

Tue, May 28, 2002 6:45PM

Before the CHP creates a population of young people who have good reasons to harbor hateful feelings toward them they should look to what is happening in the Middle East where and entire generation has been pushed to the brink. But maybe the brink is exactly where we need to be. These officers need to be relieved of their weapons and thier authority. What might they do next time hiding behind thier badges? Pretty brave guys.

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§"If we are not at the brink, where then are we?"

by Amos Jacobs

Tue, May 28, 2002 7:53PM

Its quite a picture of "end times" you raise.
I dont see the situation you conjure when I look
out my window onto America. And the middle east
is just the same as the last so many hundreds of years.

I predict your push for the demise of western civilization inspires your view, as well promotes it among those who are grasping at straws for an answer, an explanation of the strife in the middle east, and its effect on the U.S. .

I do not see your view of things. And I am inspired by no movement or dogma.

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§arabsrdogs

by noneofyerbusiness

Wed, May 29, 2002 11:42AM

too bad they didn't heave them over the side. kind of like your favorite mullah ordering your hand cut off or your sister stoned to death.

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§calling others dogs is bigotry

by richard

Wed, May 29, 2002 12:31PM

(response to posted attack on arabs)

Every civilization has its atrocities, it seems. Mine (USA) seems to be particularly ruthless and bloodthirsty. For example, we continue to imprison black men and sometimes execute them in great numbers, even when DNA testing demonstrates that many (more than one hundred so far) on death row are completely innocent. That is also barbaric.

We place a much higher value on our innocent (white) lives than we do on the innocent lives of anyone else. This allows freedom to bomb and maim innocent families in their houses, sometimes in great numbers. We excuse this by claiming that it is "collateral damage". In reality, we'd rather ten thousand of their innocent civilians die, than one of our warriors. What could be more barbaric than that?

Your trolling post doesn't suggest where you are from. Undoubtedly some of your people have some uncivilized behavior of their own. Should someone throw you off a bridge for what they do?

Expressing such hatred inflames and perpetuates the strife. Please don't judge others so harshly for the acts of a few, lest you be judged by the same standard.

richard

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§serves all of you right

by f.o.

Wed, May 29, 2002 9:33PM

IF IT WEREN'T FOR ALL YOU TRAITORS, ILLEGAL ALIENS AND DISGUSTING OPPORTUNISTS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR FREEDOMS IN THE USA, THE 11 YEAR OLD CHILD WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED WITH YOUR POISONOUS, DANGEROUS ANTI-AMERICAN IDEALS IN THE FIRST PLACE. HER *ALLEGED* ABUSE IS AT YOUR HANDS - WHAT IS AN 11 YEAR OLD CHILD DOING AT SOME PSEUDO-POLITICAL, ANTI-AMERICAN RALLY IN THE FIRST PLACE? SHE DESERVED WHAT SHE GOT AND MORE. FUCK YOU AND ALL YOUR KIND - WHETHER YOU ARE AMERICAN OR ARABS, GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY AND FIND A PURPOSE ON THE FOREIGN LANDS THAT YOU SO DESPERATELY WANT TO PROTECT.

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§What to do if you're stopped by The Police

by ACLU

Thu, May 30, 2002 1:48AM

What to do if you're stopped by The Police

To fight police abuse effectively you need to know your rights. There are some things you should do, some things you must do and some things you cannot do. If you are in the middle of a police encounter, you need a handy and quick reference to remind you what your rights and obligations are.

That's why the ACLU is making these tips available as a downloadable .pdf file. You can photocopy this and carry it in your wallet, pocket or glove compartment to give you quick access to your rights and obligations concerning police encounters.

ACLU "Bustcard": Pocket Guidelines on Encounters with the Police

Complete instructions for printing the bustcard, and other resources on police reform are also availalble.

Be polite and respectful. Never bad-mouth a police officer.

Stay calm and in control of your words, body language and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge & patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

KEEP THIS CARD HANDY!
IF YOU HAVE A POLICE ENCOUNTER, YOU CAN PROTECT YOURSELF.

1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You don't have to answer a police officer's questions, but you must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. In other situations, you can't legally be arrested for refusing to identify yourself to a police officer.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect you, rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant,ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.

IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING

1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. You can't be arrested merely for refusing to identify yourself on the street.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.

IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.

IF YOU'RE ARRESTED OR TAKEN TO A POLICE STATION

1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.

IN YOUR HOME

1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.

Produced by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Copyright 1998, The American Civil Liberties Union

For more information: http://www.aclu.org/

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§TRUE PATRIOT

by TRUE PATRIOT

Thu, May 30, 2002 2:03AM

Benjamin Franklin (a great man we could use more like him he’d probably be arrested nowadays though) said freedom and liberty is the most important thing, “if we give up some of our freedom for more security we will end up neither security or our freedom”
The main terrorist are the fascists mole police state cops and their related organizations like the riders in Oakland rampart in la and many others in the police around the usa and of course the paramilitary death squads around the world paid for by the robber baron oil companies

I saw what happened was not in the protest though just a tourist on the bridge the protest was peaceful no banners on the bridge the protesters stayed on the side walk the cops stopped the protest at 1:35 the cops blocked the sidewalk the cops stopped the traffic on the bridge so the could get their buses in to take off the courageous protesters that where abused by the chpig fascists
The little girl I saw arrested after the protest near that little parking lot by the bridge walk way about 50 yds from the bridge at about 1:59 the courageous little girl did not assault the chpig the chpigs where pushing the people with sticks she said stop pushing me an the chpigs attacked her after the chpigs tied the little girl up and tossed her to the ground one chpig fatass kneeled on her and grabbed her ass I took a photo of this
If courageous people like the 11 yr old don’t protest the fascist practices of our dictator bush over in other peoples countries more terrorist will be willing to come over here and kill the people that support their oppressors

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§The

by Yahooey

Thu, May 30, 2002 6:40PM

Won't it be great when gun control is complete, and only the cops and the corporations that own them have guns?

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§Jack

by Jack Teague

Mon, Jun 3, 2002 2:05PM

If you can't stand the heat, get out of my kitchen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I understand, you want to protest, cause problems, break the law and then pay nothing. You will have to excuse me, but haveing you spoiled brat, over-fed under read, yuppie brats makes me sick. When you whine and cry about being arrexted or chipping a nail you do such a great disservice the countless men and women who have truly sacrificed and worked to change the history of this country. Do you honestly think your can event compare to the marchers in Buringhamn during the sixties, ACT-UP and Queer Nation, or how about Women's suffarge, to even try to equate you weekend, between lattes, whineing must make these true activist roll over in thier grasves. You discust me!!!!!!!!!

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§Miguel

by Michael

Tue, Jun 4, 2002 3:10PM

We are clearly living in a police $tate, but most people
seem too busy in their everyday lives to notice ...or care.
This is the true danger, and 9-11 will only quicken the
process. Nazi Germany did not evolve overnight ,
just as our current police $tate has been coming for some time. As the Soviet Union unraveled, the only
question was would the military turn on it's own people.
Fortunately the answer was no, but from the momentum I see and "feel" from the current conditions
as this police $tate evolves, I am both haunted and terrified by what I envision...

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§Guns

by Roy Rodgers

Tue, Jun 4, 2002 3:37PM

The answer to the police state is to buy guns - lots of guns.

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