Divest Israel Now

There is no genocide going on in Israel. This poster is BS. There is no systematic effort to eliminate the Palestinian gene. The only calls for genocide come from the Arabs and their supporters who scream at Jewish people that "Hitler didn't finish the job" and "we will push you into the sea."

This poster is only one example of a bunch of snot nosed anarchistic leftists having a ball demonizing another group and feeling incredibly powerful in the process. Grow up. You are not helping the situation. You are only contributing to a slippery slope that will lead to full out war and the deaths of millions.

Defining Democracy
By Tim Wise

Webster’s New World Dictionary defines democracy as, among other things, "the principle of equality of rights, opportunity and treatment, or the practice of this principle." Keep this in mind, as we’ll be coming back to it shortly.

Now, imagine that the United States were to abolish our Constitution, or perhaps had never had one to begin with. No Bill of Rights. No guarantees of things like free speech, freedom of assembly and due process of law.

And imagine that Congress were to pass a law stating that the U.S. was from this point forward to be legally defined as a Christian nation. As such, Christians would be given special privileges for jobs, loans, and land ownership. Furthermore, political candidates espousing certain beliefs--especially those who might argue that we should be a nation with equal rights for all, and not a "Christian nation"--were no longer allowed to hold office.

And imagine that next month, new laws were passed that restricted certain ethnic and religious groups from acquiring land in particular parts of the country, and made it impossible for members of ethnic minorities to hold certain jobs, or live in particular communities.

And imagine that in response to perceived threats to our nation’s internal security, new laws sailed through the House and Senate, providing for torture of those detained for suspected subversion. This, on top of still other laws providing for the detention of such suspects for long periods of time without trial or even a formal charge against them.

In such a scenario, would anyone with an appreciation of the English language, and with the above definition in mind, dare suggest that we would be justified in calling ourselves a democracy?

Of course not: and yet the term is repeatedly used to describe Israel--as in "the only democracy in the Middle East."

This, despite the fact that said nation has no constitution.

This, despite the fact that said nation is defined as the state of the Jewish people, providing special rights and privileges to anyone in the world who is Jewish and seeks to live there, over and above longtime Arab residents.

This, despite the fact that said nation bars any candidate from holding office who thinks Israel should be a secular, democratic state with equal rights for all.

This, despite the fact that non-Jews are restricted in terms of how much land they can own, and in which places they can own land at all.

This, despite that fact that even the Israeli Supreme Court has acknowledged the use of torture against suspected "terrorists" and other "enemies" of the Jewish state.

For some, it is apparently sufficient that Israel has an electoral system, and that Arabs have the right to vote in those elections (though just how equally this right is protected is of course a different matter). The fact that one can’t vote for a candidate who questions the special Jewish nature of the state, because such candidates can’t run for or hold office, strikes most as irrelevant: hardly enough to call into question their democratic credentials.

But of course, the Soviet Union also had elections, of a sort. And in those elections, most people could vote, though candidates who espoused an end to the communist system were barred from participation. Voters got to choose between communists. In Israel, voters get to choose between Zionists. In the former case, we recognize such truncated freedom as authoritarianism. In the latter case, we call it democracy.

If it was not already obvious that the English language was dead--what with the inanities introduced to it by the business-speak of corporate capitalism, such as "thinking outside the box," "managing one’s human assets," and "planned shrinkage"--this should pretty well prove the point. If what we see in Israel is indeed democracy, then what does fascism look like?

I’m sorry, but I am over it. As a Jew--hear me now--I am over it. And if my language seems too harsh here, that’s tough. Because it’s nothing compared to the sickening things said by Israeli leaders throughout the years. Like Menachem Begin, former Prime Minister who told the Knesset in 1982 that the Palestinians were "beasts walking on two legs." Or former P.M. Ehud Barak, who offered a more precise form of dehumanization when he referred to the Palestinians as "crocodiles."

And speaking of Barak, for more confirmation on the death of language, one should examine his April 14 op-ed in the New York Times. Therein, Barak insisted that democracy in Israel could be "maintained" (ahem), so long as the Jewish state was willing to set up security fences to separate itself from the Palestinians, and keep the Palestinians in their place.

Calling the process "unilateral disengagement," Barak opined that limiting access by Arabs to Israel is the key to maintaining a Jewish majority, and thus the Jewish nature of the state. That the Jewish nature of the state is inimical to democracy as defined by every dictionary in the world matters not, one supposes.

Barak even went so far as to warn that in the absence of such security fences, Israel might actually become an apartheid state. Imagine that: unless they institute separation they might become an apartheid state. The irony of such a statement is nearly perfect, and once again signals that words no longer have meaning. They are but the sounds that emanate from one’s throat and are accompanied by breath and occasionally spittle. They mean nothing. Define them as you choose.

Interestingly, amidst the subterfuge, other elements of Barak’s essay struck me as surprisingly honest: much more honest, in fact, than when he had been Prime Minister and supposedly made that "generous offer" to Arafat about which we keep hearing.

You know, the one that would have allowed the maintenance of most Jewish settlements in the territories, and would have restricted the Palestinian state to the worst land, devoid of its own water supply, and cutoff at numerous chokepoints by Israeli security. Yeah that one. The one that has been described variously (without any acknowledgement of the inconsistency) as having offered the Palestinians either 93%, or is it 95%, or maybe 96%, or perhaps 98% of the West Bank and Gaza.

Well, in the Times piece, Barak finally came clean, admitting that Israel would need to erect the fences in such a manner as to incorporate at least one-quarter of the territories into Israel, so as to subsume the settlements. So not 93 percent, or 96%, or 98%, but at best 75%, and still on the worst land.

Furthermore, the fences would slice up Jerusalem and restrict Arab access to the Holy Basin and the Old City: a direct swipe at Muslims who seek access on a par with their fellow descendants of Abraham.

That this was Barak’s idea all along should surprise no one. And that such a "solution" would mean the final loss for the Palestinians of all but 17% of their pre-Israel territory will likely not strike many in the U.S. media or political elite as being terribly unfair.

If anything, we will continue to hear about the intransigence of the Arabs, and their unwillingness to accept these "generous offers," which can only be seen as generous to a people who have become so inured to human suffering that their very souls are in jeopardy.

Or to those who have never consulted a dictionary. For once again, it defines generous as: "willing to give or share; unselfish; large; ample; rich in yield; fertile." In a world such as this, where words have lost all meaning, we might as well just burn all the dictionaries.

Sometimes, the linguistic obfuscation goes beyond single words, and begins to encompass entire phrases. One such example is the oft-repeated statement to the effect that "Jews should be able to live anywhere in the world, and to say otherwise is to endorse anti-Semitism." Thus, it is asked, why shouldn’t Jews be able to settle in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem?

Of course, whoever says such a thing must know of its absurdity beforehand. After all, the right to live wherever one chooses has never included the right to live in someone else’s house, after taking it by force or fraud.

Nor does it include the right to set up house in territories that are conquered and occupied as the result of military conflict: indeed, international law expressly forbids such a thing.

And furthermore, those who insist on the right of Jews to live wherever they choose, by definition deny the same right to Palestinians, who cannot live in the place of their choosing, or even in the homes that were once theirs.

Needless to say, many Palestinians would like to live inside Israel’s pre-1948 borders, and exercise a right of return in order to do so. But don’t expect those who demand the right for Jews to plant stakes anywhere we choose to offer the same right to Arabs.

Many of these are among the voices that insist Jordan is "the Palestinian state," and thus, Palestinians should be perfectly happy living there. Since Palestinians are Semites, one could properly call such an attitude "anti-Semitic"--seeing as how it limits the rights of Semitic peoples to live wherever they wish--but given the transmogrification of the term "anti-Semitism" into something that can only apply to Jew-hatred, such a usage would seem bizarre to many, one suspects.

The rhetorical shenanigans even extend to the world of statistics. Witness the full-page advertisement in the New York Times placed by the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, which ran the same day as the Barak op-ed.

Therein, these supposed spokespersons for American Judaism stated their unyielding support for Israel, and claimed that the 450 Israeli deaths caused by terrorism since the beginning of the second intifada, were equal to 21,000 deaths in the U.S. from terrorism, as a comparable percentage of each nation’s overall population.

Playing upon fears and outrage over the attacks of 9/11, the intent was quite transparent: get U.S. readers to envision 9/11 all over again, only with seven times more casualties! A brilliant move, indeed.

But of course, honesty--an intellectual commodity in short supply these days, and altogether missing from the rhetorical shelves of the Conference of Presidents--would require one to point out that the numbers of Palestinian non-combatant (that is to say civilian) deaths, at the hands of Israel in that same time period, is much higher, and indeed would be "equal to" far more than 21,000 in the U.S., as a comparable share of respective populations.

To be honest to a fault would be to note that the 900 or so Palestinians slaughtered with Israeli support in the Sabra and Shatilla camps during the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, would be equal to over 40,000 Americans. Even more, the 17,500 Arabs killed overall by Israel during that invasion would be roughly equivalent to over 800,000 Americans today: the size of many large cities.

In the dictionary such a thing might fall under the heading of terrorism. But remember, words no longer have any meaning.

Sounding eerily like Adolph Hitler, Ariel Sharon once said, "a lie should be tried in a place where it will attract the attention of the world." And so it has been: throughout the media and the U.S. political scene, on CNN in the personage of Benjamin Netanyahu, and in the pages of the New York Times.

And in my Hebrew School, where we were taught that Jews were to be "a light unto the nations," instead of this dim bulb, this flickering nightlight, this barely visible spark, whose radiance is only sufficient to make visible the death-rattle of the more noble aspects of the Jewish tradition.

Unless we who are Jews insist on a return to honest language, and an end to the hijacking of our culture and faith by madmen, racists and liars, I fear that the light may be extinguished forever.

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must pay with their lives.

That video says it all. I am in utter shock. I am shaking violently with rage. I have no sympathy for radical islamic fundamentalists. Not for muslim terrorists. Pakistani, Afghani, Palestinian, Iraqi or otherwise.

Anyone who feels an ounce of sympathy for these sick arab bastards should also be killed.

God Bless America

If you are offended by porn, don't go there. It's all over the front page.

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ggggrrrrr....,
Your anger ,over the video of murdered Israeli( American) D. Pearle, is understandable. You love your country, and it's citizens, that's obvious. But because of your ignorance and fear , your hatred makes you no better than the murderers.
The murderers are Muslims ,but they are not Arabs. They are pro-nationalistic Pakistani's , useing their understanding of religion to further their cause. The Pakistani gov't itself, is funded by your God bless American Gov't. The Taliban and the Al-Qieda network were ,and still probably are funded by your God bless American gov't. The present Afghani Interim gov't ( who has more than doubled the production of Opium ), has been set up and funded by your God bless American gov't.The present Iraqi regime, under Saddam was trained by the CIA and funded by your God bless American gov't. The cowardly, lying,evil media propogated Palestinians, fight by throwing rocks and sacrificing their own lives for freedom against the oppression of Zionism. The apartied gov't of Israel is funded by Billions of dollars from your God bless American gov't.
You wonderful Americans , should not have hatred in your hearts.Because your God bless American gov't makes sure that the right people get paid.
God bless you ggggrrrrrrrrr, for not showing that same contempt ,for God bless American Christians. Who murder their own children by drowning them in bathtubes.Prostitute their daughters and sons . Kidnap
infant children from their homes.Would rather shootup,snort,smoke or drink than feed their own children. And lets not forget those God bless American
priests,who have sex with little boys.
God bless America, God bless America.
God bless America for showing the world ,what wonderful values and such high morals standards must be required to live the God bless American life.
God bless America for murdering J.F. KENNEDY, ROBERT KENNEDY, MARTIN LUTHER KING,Jr., JOHN LENNON etc. Hell, these people would have probably wanted to find a way to bring peace to all.But they did not share the wonderful values, the high moral standards required to be an American.
The present American (propoganda)war is against Islamic Fundamentalism. a ideology created directly from American foreign policy. The real war is against Islam itself, because Islamic values are in opposition to the American dream that the world must be made safe for it's continuing manifestation.
Surely the evil values and qualities of the Islamic personality ; sincerity, responsibility, integrity ,honesty ,truthfulness, keeping of commitments, fair-dealing, discipline and self-control,
humility, patience, endurance, thankfulness, dignity, honor and self-respect, purity ,modesty, chastity, kindness, helpfulness, cooperation, charitableness, generosity and hospitality consideration and good manners, brotherliness, warmth and lovingness, striving ,hard work and love of knowledge, do not match or are in keeping with the great values and high moral standards of ( God bless ) America. An american once said," a tremendously moving and almost unbelievable experience to be, for the first time in my life, regarded and respected simply as a human being who is equal to every other human being without consideration of the usual man-made distinctions and barriers such as race, color, nationality, or social status."-- MALCOLM-X. But we wouldn't want that , would we? That's un-American.
God bless America! The leaders of the World.
F.N.

You sound just like the people that made that video. You hate America and it's government. Now you will say that you don't hate America, just it's government. But I am here to tell you Fieszal Nezam, the American government is America. It is of the people, by the people and for the people of the United States of America. So if you hate the American government then, you hate me, you hate Daniel Pearl, you hate every person that lives in America, you hate every person that every voted in an American election, you hate every person whose dream it is to come to America, you hate every person that every purchased an American made product, and it short Fieszal Nezam, if the truth be told, you hate yourself.

That is the truth and you are a hypocrite.

So no matter how you slice it Fieszal Nezam, you were responsible for the death of thousands in the WTC towers, you are responsible for the repression of the Palestinians, and you Fieszal Nezam are responsible for the death of Daniel Pearl. How do I rationalize this you ask? If you hate Americans then you advocate these atrocities. So whether you are an arab that hates the American govertment or a self hating American, either way, by your own admission, and by your own logic, YOU are guilty. So whether we use my logic or yours, it's still your fault. But me, if we use my logic, I'm innocent. If we use yours, I am no more guilty than you.

Which is it Fieszal Nezam? I've never killed a man, never taken a life. I don't advocate violence. But I want these radical islamic fundamentalists dead. Allah, didn't take Danny Pearl's life. Pakistani gov't didn't do it. You probably didn't do it. But those who did should die as violently and suffer as much as they made Mr. Pearl. He is a martyr for Americanism. If these Arabs can't keep their own people in check, if they're over there teaching children to hate and kill jews, burning American flags and pissing on freedom when their governments won't even allow their citizens free elections, then I say Fuck them. Fuck the whole lot of 'em. They are sewage in my eyes. Treacherous, venomous snakes. You don't reason with a cobra. You cut it's head off. You kill it dead.

Fieszal Nezam if you and your people want to convince Americans to support you and your causes, you'll get no help by decapitating innocent Americans and then using it to make propaganda videos. You will however, get attention. Attention from people like me. A freedom loving citizen of the United States. Who now hates you and your cause. If your mission is to make me hate you as much as you hate me, consider it successful. A normally pacifist peace loving person has been driven to the desire to kill. Your mission is accomplished.

Now Fiezel is going to tell you why it's the "God Bless American" Government's fault that you hate him!

March 21, 1983
Today, March 21st, is New Years Day in much of the Moslem world. New years, of course, should be an occasion for celebration. But for the Moslem people of Afghanistan, whose country was attacked and is occupied by the Soviet Army, it is a bitter reminder of a national calamity that befell their nation more than 3 years ago. To focus the world's attention on this crime against an innocent and brave nation, we observe today the second annual Afghanistan Day.

In Afghanistan, tens of thousands of people have been killed, millions have lost their homes and their livelihood. Others have been subjected to torture and other atrocities, and many have been victims of the grisly chemical and biological weapons, including yellow rain -- weapons the Soviets have used in violation of solemn international agreements. The consequences of this calamity extend to Pakistan, which has assumed the burden of sheltering and feeding nearly 3 million refugees.

Yet, while we condemn what has happened in Afghanistan, we are not without hope. To watch the courageous Afghan freedom fighters battle modern arsenals with simple hand-held weapons is an inspiration to those who love freedom. Their courage teaches us a great lesson -- that there are things in this world worth defending.

To the Afghan people, I say on behalf of all Americans that we admire your heroism, your devotion to freedom, and your relentless struggle against your oppressors.

The Soviet people have known great suffering -- more than other people. They should be able to sympathize with the terrible suffering of the Afghan people. To the Soviet leaders, I urge you in the name of humanity to end the bloodshed so that an independent Afghanistan can again take its place in the community of nations. The West has no designs upon Afghanistan. We do not threaten you there or anywhere on the globe. All we seek is the restoration of peace and freedom for a noble and brave people whom we remember today.

Fieszal Nezam is neurotic and is doing what we, in psychology, commonly call 'projecting'. By blaming the American Government he finds a successful scapegoat to relieve guiltiful feelings.

In fact, I theorize this has been brought about on a large scale in Arabic culture. Sort of like mass hypnosis.

http://www.heretical.org/sexsci/bpsychol.html

Remember when reading these posts from Reagan that much of the money the US was sending went to Hekmatyar and some went directly to Bin Laden.

Bin Laden wasn't just some random person the US was supporting. He was brought from Saudi Arabia to act as a symbolic leader for the fighters the US was recruiting (later known as the arab Afghans).

Anyway, Back to Reagan:
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Proclamation 5309 -- Afghanistan Day, 1985
March 21, 1985
By the President of the United States

of America

A Proclamation

In a time of prosperity, we do not think of hunger and hardship. In a time of peace, we do not think of suffering and war. In a time when our families are together and healthy, we do not think of the pain we would feel if they were pulled apart. Yet, for the people of Afghanistan, it is impossible to escape such thoughts, because terror, hardship, and suffering have become an everyday way of life ever since the Soviet Union brutally invaded and occupied their country over five years ago.

March 21 is the start of a New Year for the Afghan people. It is traditionally a holiday when they bring their families together to celebrate life's new beginnings and to rejoice and give thanks for God's many gifts.

But in Afghanistan today it may be hard to remember the days when their country had peace, when there was enough food to eat, and when their homes were safe, for the overwhelming majority of Afghans are engaged in a fierce struggle to end the Soviet occupation of their country and the rule of the puppet regime headed by Babrak Karmal.

The year 1984 was an especially hard one for the Afghans. The Soviets have become frustrated with their inability to crush the spirit of the Afghan Freedom Fighters and are increasingly turning their military might against the civilian population of the country, forcing hundreds of thousands more innocent people into exile away from their homeland.

Reports of Soviet atrocities and human rights violations are increasingly gaining the attention of the world's public. Respected organizations such as the United Nations Commission on Human Rights, Amnesty International, and Helsinki Watch have recently released studies detailing the terror that the Soviets and the Karmal regime regularly inflict on the people of Afghanistan. Karmal's tenuous, and brutal, hold on power continues only because his rule is supported by more than 100,000 Soviet occupation troops.

All Americans are outraged by this growing Soviet brutality against the proud and freedom-loving people of Afghanistan. Moreover, the entire world community has condemned the outside occupation of Afghanistan. Six times, in fact, the UN General Assembly has passed strong resolutions -- supported by the overwhelming majority of the world's nations -- which have:

-- called for the immediate withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan;

-- reaffirmed the right of the Afghan people to determine their own form of government and choose their economic, political, and social systems;

-- reiterated that the preservation of the sovereignty, territorial integrity, political independence, and nonaligned character of Afghanistan is essential for a peaceful solution of the problem; and

-- called for the creation of conditions that would enable the Afghan refugees to return voluntarily to their homes in safety and honor.

All Americans are united on the goal of freedom for Afghanistan. I ask the American people, at the time when we are blessed with prosperity and security, to remember the Afghan struggle against tyranny and the rule of government-by-terror. We stand in admiration of the indomitable courage of the Afghan people who are an inspiration to all freedom-loving nations around the globe.

Afghanistan Day will serve to recall the fundamental principles involved when people struggle for the freedom to determine their own future and the right to govern themselves without foreign interference. Let us, therefore, resolve to pay tribute to the brave Afghan people by observing March 21, 1985, as Afghanistan Day. Let us pledge our continuing admiration for their cause and their perseverance and continue to do everything we can to provide humanitarian support to the brave Afghan people, including the millions of Afghan refugees who have been forced to flee their own country.

Now, Therefore, I, Ronald Reagan, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim March 21, 1985, as Afghanistan Day.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-first day of March, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and eighty-five, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and ninth.

Ronald Reagan

[Filed with the Office of the Federal Register, 12:32 p.m., March 22, 1985]
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1985/32185c.htm

It's obvious that ggggrrrrrrr , asdfjkl and the like are still in school formulating an opinion while not having all the facts. That's very dangerous and leads to innocent people getting hurt.But your opinions must be made regardless of the concequences, that's the God bless American way. Since your still in school, try reading a book called, ISLAM and the Myth of Confrontation ( Religion & Politics in the Middle East ) - by- FRED HALLIDAY
Before you leave school, try to at least learn something meaningful ,so you won't fall victim to pro-nationalism propoganda ,which is really - racism.
And just because i have a Muslim (not Arab) first name does not make me an Arab. Was Muhammed Ali (the boxer),Saad Muhammad,Eddie Mustafa,Dwight Braxten,Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,Jamal Wilkes,Hakeem Olajuwon,Ahmad Rashad,Raghib(Rocket)Ismail,reggae star Jimmy Cliff,Yusuf Islam(Cat Stevens),members in the groups Tribe,Groove Theory,Ever Last,models Imani and Yasmen, even former astronaut Neil Armstrong Arabs ? They are all Muslims ,but are not Arabs. There have been Muslims in America since 1312.
I myself , have lived in the west all my life. My family has also lived in the west for 5 generations.
Like you,i as well don't agree with cold blooded murder. But if you want to solve a problem, seek out first, what has caused the problem. Never assume.
F.N.

>Never assume.

>It's obvious that ggggrrrrrrr , asdfjkl and the like are still in school

I've been out of school for 12 years.

1312, eh? Tell us more.

Didn't you know?? The American Indians were muslims, until the white man came, took their land, raped their women, introduced them to firewater, and converted most of them to Judaism. Now, the Cherokee and the Sue are the biggest Zionist advocates on the planet.

IndyMedia should change it's name to Disinformation_Central.org

Not all white people are bad, just you Zionist and racist whites. I'd argue that most whites have an interest in the US to challenge the US govt. and protect their jobs, wages and interests. Whether or not that happens is up to the Labor movement and the Left. Course you, Eric, are anti-Union, I'm sure.

And it's Sioux, dipshit. Not Sue.

Israel has a large number of African Jews. These Ethiopian Jews were rescued from Ethiopia and are slowly integrating into Israeli society. Those Ethiopian Jews that are serving in the Israeli Army are subject to daily calls of Nigger, Kaffir, and Ape by Palestinians. While I don't expect Palestinians to rejoice at the sight of Israeli soldiers, the racist names that they use against Black Jews should tell you something about their pathology and should wake you from your dogmatic slumber.

In 1312, African Muslims arrived in the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of the American interior using the Mississippi River as their access route. The Muslim explorers were from Mali and other parts of West Africa.
The brother of Mansa Musa, Abubakari,was one of the first to set sail to America from Africa.
In 1492, when Christopher Columbus arrived in the New World, he was strongly influenced by the geography of the 13th-century Arab scholar, Al-Idrissi, who served as an adviser to King Roger of Sicily.
Columbas had with him a copy of Al-Idrissi's works mentioning the discovery of a new contintent by eight Muslim explorers. He also had some Muslim crew members with him for translation and other services.
In 1527, Estevanico of Azamor, a Muslim from Morrocco arrived in Florida with the ill-fated expedition of Panfilo de Narvaez.
In 1539, Estavanico was one ofthe first of three Muslims to cross this continent. At least two states, Arizona and New Mexico, owed their beginnings to his explorations.
In 1777, under the leadershp of Mohammed III, Morrocco was the first country in the world to recognize the independence of the United States and granted free rights of passage to all American ships.
The Slavery Years- It is recorded that between 15 and 30% of Africans brought to North America between 1731 and 1867 were Muslims. During the slave trading years, more than ten million Africans were taken from their lands. The word Mandinga means "bookman" (a reflection of Muslm literacy). However, not all Muslims were Mandingas and not all Mandingas were Muslim.
Americas Early Battles- In 1775, at the Battle of Bunker Hill, Peter Saleem's bravery was well noted. Peter Saleem and Salem Poor both fought in the battle and stood out for their extraordinary feats of heroism. It is recorded that Peter Saleem won the admiration of his comrades by shooting the British major, Pitcairn, while he was mounting and shouting " the day is ours."
There is alot more that people don't know, but the information regarding the history of America and the people who influenced its birth and growth is recorded in many books and on the internet. The name of Tallahassee is actually a Muslim word. Tu-Allah-Ahsse.
F.N.

That is a load of crap, Fieszal Nezam.

-TruthBringer

TruthBringer, just type in - first muslims in America, on your search engine. I use Momma.com .
Also you could check out:
- Muslims In America- Seven Centuries of History
(1312-1998)- amana publications
- The Complete Idiot's Guide to Understanding Islam - Alpha pub.
There is so much info out there. You can even go to the Library of Congress web site to get info if you want verification.
I see no point to lie about something, that others can verify to prove me wrong. Lying does not serve a purpose towards gaining knowledge.
F.N.