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Protest in Berkeley Against Repression in Palestine and the US
Monday at 1 PM about 100 students and community members marched from the downtown Berkeley BART station to the Court House to protest the city and university's treatment of the pro-Palestine movement
This Monday and Tuesday, Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and a coalition of progressive community groups will come out in support of 79 protesters arrested and facing a pre-trial hearing at a rally at the Berkeley City Court House at 1PM . These 79 students and community members were arrested at a non-violent civil disobedience sit-in on the University of California, Berkeley campus at a demonstration calling for an University divestment from the state of Israel.
The charges against the protesters, which the rally contests the legitimacy of, range from "trespassing" to "disturbing the peace" to "resisting arrest." The District Attorney has refused to drop charges on the protesters, and all 79 pleaded not guilty at the April 30 arraignment. A legal team consisting of various progressive law groups, including the National Lawyer's Guild and the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, is representing the students.
SJP and other community groups, including as Jews for a Free Palestine and the ADC-SF, are protesting these charges, viewing the charges as part of a multi-faceted assault on the rights of free speech and SJP's message questioning University and government complicity in oppression of the Palestinian people.
"All aspects of this case reveal that this is a political trial, and SJP is being made an example out of" says Maryam Ghavari, an SJP student who was arrested on April 9. "D.A. John Adams and the University are trying to hand-in-hand to silence those students and activists who are standing forth with a message that they do not like, that their investments are funding a racist, apartheid regime that crushes human rights on a daily basis. No other activists have faced such reprisals for a non-violent civil disobedience. "
The University of California is also raising separate student judicial charges against the 41 protesters who were students, which are carried with the unprecedented threat of academic suspension for up to one year for some students. Many students and community see this as a coordinated effort targeting the group, especially disheartening in Berkeley, a place commonly known as a center of freedom of speech.
"D.A. John Adams is taking the same line as Chancellor Berdhal and company, a line which does not even stand up to the facts," says Hoang Phan, a graduate student at UC Berkeley and SJP member. "They would like for everyone to believe that they are pursuing this case because we disrupted the academic mission of the university. Yet, even dozens of faculty supporters, who know best the academic mission of this university, have stepped forth and agree that our acts on non-violent civil disobedience are protected speech and important contributions to the educational goals and intellectual vitality of this university."
"In Berkeley, of all places, free speech has become nothing more than a cliché given lip-service to and crushed behind-the-scenes," said Chris Cantor, a member of SJP. "We follow in the tradition of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr., and we will stand up like them to demand that our voices against oppression in Palestine, which we fund on a daily basis, be heard."
Students for Justice in Palestine, Berkeley, California
http://www.justiceinpalestine.org
justiceinpalestine [at] yahoo.com - (510) 496-1269 x1948 - vm/fax
The charges against the protesters, which the rally contests the legitimacy of, range from "trespassing" to "disturbing the peace" to "resisting arrest." The District Attorney has refused to drop charges on the protesters, and all 79 pleaded not guilty at the April 30 arraignment. A legal team consisting of various progressive law groups, including the National Lawyer's Guild and the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, is representing the students.
SJP and other community groups, including as Jews for a Free Palestine and the ADC-SF, are protesting these charges, viewing the charges as part of a multi-faceted assault on the rights of free speech and SJP's message questioning University and government complicity in oppression of the Palestinian people.
"All aspects of this case reveal that this is a political trial, and SJP is being made an example out of" says Maryam Ghavari, an SJP student who was arrested on April 9. "D.A. John Adams and the University are trying to hand-in-hand to silence those students and activists who are standing forth with a message that they do not like, that their investments are funding a racist, apartheid regime that crushes human rights on a daily basis. No other activists have faced such reprisals for a non-violent civil disobedience. "
The University of California is also raising separate student judicial charges against the 41 protesters who were students, which are carried with the unprecedented threat of academic suspension for up to one year for some students. Many students and community see this as a coordinated effort targeting the group, especially disheartening in Berkeley, a place commonly known as a center of freedom of speech.
"D.A. John Adams is taking the same line as Chancellor Berdhal and company, a line which does not even stand up to the facts," says Hoang Phan, a graduate student at UC Berkeley and SJP member. "They would like for everyone to believe that they are pursuing this case because we disrupted the academic mission of the university. Yet, even dozens of faculty supporters, who know best the academic mission of this university, have stepped forth and agree that our acts on non-violent civil disobedience are protected speech and important contributions to the educational goals and intellectual vitality of this university."
"In Berkeley, of all places, free speech has become nothing more than a cliché given lip-service to and crushed behind-the-scenes," said Chris Cantor, a member of SJP. "We follow in the tradition of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr., and we will stand up like them to demand that our voices against oppression in Palestine, which we fund on a daily basis, be heard."
Students for Justice in Palestine, Berkeley, California
http://www.justiceinpalestine.org
justiceinpalestine [at] yahoo.com - (510) 496-1269 x1948 - vm/fax
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i'm on the far left of the political spectrum, both at a campus and community level, but i totally disagree with this berkeley shit going on. i'm sorry, but SJP is aweful, and mofo's like the ISO's Snehal are only fucking it up even more for the Palestine movement.
i've read through several postings regarding the whole UCB/SJP fiasco, and i seriously do not see much credibility in SJP's actions, even less their demands to have charges dropped on those who got arrested. i read through one of the chancellor's e-mail replies to that ISO fool Snehal, and it's worrying that they can so easily break down SJP's arguments and actions--Gandhi and MLK must be rolling in their graves right about now. civil disobedience at UCB is almost ridiculous, especially when they take over classroom buildings with little or no significance whatsoever. what's worse is that they tend to demand that everything in Palestine and Berkeley be fixed, if not the whole world. first off, that's totally unattainable for a sit-in at a classroom building, and non-sympathetic university administrators KNOW THIS, and then it becomes much easier for them to crack down on stupid liberal whining priviliged Berkeley "activists" easily.
as far as i can tell, no one in SF has given much of a shit about SJP, and many don't even know what SJP is. you'd figure their stupid sit-in would at least have put them on the map nationally. unfortunately, and perhaps fortunately considering all the fools involved in SJP i've heard about, their recent action is seen as just another "berkeley thing," and their campaign's likeley to just die right there.
next time you do a fucking sit-in, do it with a message, not just your stupid demands to fix the whole fucking world to your liking. i'm pro-Palestine too, but i tend to not let my sense of entitlement rule my activism, EVEN LESS when there's a voice (i.e., Palestinians) out there i want others to hear to promote their liberation. i would've supported ORGANIZED civil disobedience, as opposed to calling it out at the end of a rally and going directly against the administration (self-entitlement have anything to do with this?) and pissing off them and other students and staff, such as a sit-in or a hunger strike at the chancellors' or regents' office to demand that we start having discussions about divesting from the fucked up state of Israel. fuck, you would've been on the cover of newspapers and magazines all over for shit like that! shit, even Republicans would join SJP, as opposed to just more same old berkeley "activists" and liberal studies majors.
i mean just look around the UCB cafe's, almost no one gives a flying turd about divesting from Israel except the same old berkeley liberal/hippie/peacenik/ISO peeps. think about a better way to promote divestment, you've got plenty of activist books in your big fat libraries on campus to LEARN (which means you don't know) how to better do civil disobedience to help out Palestine and its people.
i already get a lot of heat for MY opinion that dissents from the usual tide of the Bay Area left, and so you could just ignore me :) but, then again, SJP is what's getting ignored the most these days, and the chancellor just keeps drinking the brandy.
JC in SF
i've read through several postings regarding the whole UCB/SJP fiasco, and i seriously do not see much credibility in SJP's actions, even less their demands to have charges dropped on those who got arrested. i read through one of the chancellor's e-mail replies to that ISO fool Snehal, and it's worrying that they can so easily break down SJP's arguments and actions--Gandhi and MLK must be rolling in their graves right about now. civil disobedience at UCB is almost ridiculous, especially when they take over classroom buildings with little or no significance whatsoever. what's worse is that they tend to demand that everything in Palestine and Berkeley be fixed, if not the whole world. first off, that's totally unattainable for a sit-in at a classroom building, and non-sympathetic university administrators KNOW THIS, and then it becomes much easier for them to crack down on stupid liberal whining priviliged Berkeley "activists" easily.
as far as i can tell, no one in SF has given much of a shit about SJP, and many don't even know what SJP is. you'd figure their stupid sit-in would at least have put them on the map nationally. unfortunately, and perhaps fortunately considering all the fools involved in SJP i've heard about, their recent action is seen as just another "berkeley thing," and their campaign's likeley to just die right there.
next time you do a fucking sit-in, do it with a message, not just your stupid demands to fix the whole fucking world to your liking. i'm pro-Palestine too, but i tend to not let my sense of entitlement rule my activism, EVEN LESS when there's a voice (i.e., Palestinians) out there i want others to hear to promote their liberation. i would've supported ORGANIZED civil disobedience, as opposed to calling it out at the end of a rally and going directly against the administration (self-entitlement have anything to do with this?) and pissing off them and other students and staff, such as a sit-in or a hunger strike at the chancellors' or regents' office to demand that we start having discussions about divesting from the fucked up state of Israel. fuck, you would've been on the cover of newspapers and magazines all over for shit like that! shit, even Republicans would join SJP, as opposed to just more same old berkeley "activists" and liberal studies majors.
i mean just look around the UCB cafe's, almost no one gives a flying turd about divesting from Israel except the same old berkeley liberal/hippie/peacenik/ISO peeps. think about a better way to promote divestment, you've got plenty of activist books in your big fat libraries on campus to LEARN (which means you don't know) how to better do civil disobedience to help out Palestine and its people.
i already get a lot of heat for MY opinion that dissents from the usual tide of the Bay Area left, and so you could just ignore me :) but, then again, SJP is what's getting ignored the most these days, and the chancellor just keeps drinking the brandy.
JC in SF
Clock out and try again tomorrow.
Your posts just aren't convincing this morning.
How much do they pay you, by the way?
Your posts just aren't convincing this morning.
How much do they pay you, by the way?
Im guessing a few right wing kids started reading the posts about COINTELPRO and are copying tactics a little too directly (the FBI would be more professional).
See they are using the tactic from point 1 in:
http://www.derechos.net/paulwolf/cointelpro/doc183.gif
I shouldnt be giving tips but, the FBI wouldnt post something like JC's response here (they would do that stuff in the Daily Cal or a moderate left local paper since the readership here is either already rightwing or strongly for Palestine).
Also, the conflict between anarchists,the ISO and IAC is much more divisive and is SO much more effective of a tactic to employ. It is starting to be used to destroying the antiPalestine movement but was really effective at destroying antiwar groups. The key is to find the real lines of division and play them up(and sectarianism is currently the looney lefts biggest weakness).
See they are using the tactic from point 1 in:
http://www.derechos.net/paulwolf/cointelpro/doc183.gif
I shouldnt be giving tips but, the FBI wouldnt post something like JC's response here (they would do that stuff in the Daily Cal or a moderate left local paper since the readership here is either already rightwing or strongly for Palestine).
Also, the conflict between anarchists,the ISO and IAC is much more divisive and is SO much more effective of a tactic to employ. It is starting to be used to destroying the antiPalestine movement but was really effective at destroying antiwar groups. The key is to find the real lines of division and play them up(and sectarianism is currently the looney lefts biggest weakness).
anon:
indeed, the feds would post this in the Daily Cal, IF AND WHEN the "New Left" was in any way as strong as it was back in 1968, so keep dreaming (or hallucinating). i post this here because i'm for real, and i'd like to put my idea out there without getting burned by stupid bandwagon leftist activists in the Bay and looked at as a Republican for dissenting from fucked up strategies and tactics. i'm sorry i don't just agree to everything the left in the Bay likes to do and promote with little or no analyzing.
if anyone's cointelpro, it's probably some of the stupid fools in SJP fucking things up. you think my ideas are what the right could come up with? you're insane and delirious. have some conviction, realize and admit when shit's being done wrong.
indeed i do got something against the ISO and other sectarian imbeciles, and no cointelpro is needed to divide and conquer those idiots. first off, the sectarians never get much support outside of the usual leftist idealists, such as those in the Bay. they certainly get not much sympathy from grassroots organizers and community organizations, and even less people of color. so this leaves them with a minority of support in the Bay, and even smaller nationally. do you think the feds worried more about the ISO's and IAC's in the 60's/70's or a handful of grassroots blacks and other peoples of color marching down streets gathering support from all sides of the political spectrum? the iso's and iac's are dealt with rather easily, just watch corporate tv, no gov't intervention needed, they are easily marginalized as sort of "irrational idealists".
like i said, read some books on activism, they're apparently not checked out at Cal these days.
JC
ps: i can get paid for this?
indeed, the feds would post this in the Daily Cal, IF AND WHEN the "New Left" was in any way as strong as it was back in 1968, so keep dreaming (or hallucinating). i post this here because i'm for real, and i'd like to put my idea out there without getting burned by stupid bandwagon leftist activists in the Bay and looked at as a Republican for dissenting from fucked up strategies and tactics. i'm sorry i don't just agree to everything the left in the Bay likes to do and promote with little or no analyzing.
if anyone's cointelpro, it's probably some of the stupid fools in SJP fucking things up. you think my ideas are what the right could come up with? you're insane and delirious. have some conviction, realize and admit when shit's being done wrong.
indeed i do got something against the ISO and other sectarian imbeciles, and no cointelpro is needed to divide and conquer those idiots. first off, the sectarians never get much support outside of the usual leftist idealists, such as those in the Bay. they certainly get not much sympathy from grassroots organizers and community organizations, and even less people of color. so this leaves them with a minority of support in the Bay, and even smaller nationally. do you think the feds worried more about the ISO's and IAC's in the 60's/70's or a handful of grassroots blacks and other peoples of color marching down streets gathering support from all sides of the political spectrum? the iso's and iac's are dealt with rather easily, just watch corporate tv, no gov't intervention needed, they are easily marginalized as sort of "irrational idealists".
like i said, read some books on activism, they're apparently not checked out at Cal these days.
JC
ps: i can get paid for this?
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dear anti-me:
i appreciate your humor, however i've worked for the man before and got well paid. the problem was they don't like the fact that i was in favor of any reform that would seriously promote the liberation of oppressed people's in or out of this country. they were fine if i was a "socialist" or a Green Party member, as "the man" already knows how to deal with them, but liberationists such as myself weren't welcomed. i won't be applying again, but thanks for your web links, i hope you didn't spend much time looking for them.
for now i'll concentrate on real grassroots organizing, which i'm currently involved in, that uses a broader (less berkeleyized) and more analytical strategy with better tactics. i'll admit, Palestine isn't my biggest field of activism, but i'm well aware of what's working, what has worked, and what won't on campus and the community.
it's been 3 decades since any real social change happened through campuses, and the library is still open at UCB, yet no SJP members...
please somebody write something more thorough towards my arguments, don't just dismiss me, it hurts to see how ignorant and arrogant the left has become around here. right-wingers haven't even come into this thread, meaning they're clueless, and/or that i'm definitely not one of them. i could give a shit about the right-wingers, but it's sad that there's such a disconnection between Berkeley and many Bay activism and the community people, the ones we're supposed to be fighting for.
love you all,
JC
i appreciate your humor, however i've worked for the man before and got well paid. the problem was they don't like the fact that i was in favor of any reform that would seriously promote the liberation of oppressed people's in or out of this country. they were fine if i was a "socialist" or a Green Party member, as "the man" already knows how to deal with them, but liberationists such as myself weren't welcomed. i won't be applying again, but thanks for your web links, i hope you didn't spend much time looking for them.
for now i'll concentrate on real grassroots organizing, which i'm currently involved in, that uses a broader (less berkeleyized) and more analytical strategy with better tactics. i'll admit, Palestine isn't my biggest field of activism, but i'm well aware of what's working, what has worked, and what won't on campus and the community.
it's been 3 decades since any real social change happened through campuses, and the library is still open at UCB, yet no SJP members...
please somebody write something more thorough towards my arguments, don't just dismiss me, it hurts to see how ignorant and arrogant the left has become around here. right-wingers haven't even come into this thread, meaning they're clueless, and/or that i'm definitely not one of them. i could give a shit about the right-wingers, but it's sad that there's such a disconnection between Berkeley and many Bay activism and the community people, the ones we're supposed to be fighting for.
love you all,
JC
I think that JC has some good points. Symbolic civil disobedience can only get you so far.
My guess as to why they didn't do a sit-in in someone's office is that security is probably too tight for them to be able to get in. Or maybe they chose Wheeler cuz it has some big classrooms, so students who had classes/midterms in that building would find out about the issues related to the fact that some of their tuition money gets sent to the Israeli state.
OT: I thought that the conflict btw the pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian folks was very interesting- the date 4/9 means something different to each group, and I hope someday they'll be able to commemorate it without pissing each other off.
Not a fan of the ISO or the IAC (tho both grps do a lot to bring certain groups of people's attention to important issues like the airport screeners and, say, Mumia, respectively),
Susie-Q
My guess as to why they didn't do a sit-in in someone's office is that security is probably too tight for them to be able to get in. Or maybe they chose Wheeler cuz it has some big classrooms, so students who had classes/midterms in that building would find out about the issues related to the fact that some of their tuition money gets sent to the Israeli state.
OT: I thought that the conflict btw the pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian folks was very interesting- the date 4/9 means something different to each group, and I hope someday they'll be able to commemorate it without pissing each other off.
Not a fan of the ISO or the IAC (tho both grps do a lot to bring certain groups of people's attention to important issues like the airport screeners and, say, Mumia, respectively),
Susie-Q
JC, sorry about dismissing you. The post just didn’t seem real. With the US war machine moving into new countries every day and massacres in the Middle East, it was just hard for me to realize that some people find a group like the SJP as extreme. I grew up in the Midwest and most of the protests we had during the Gulf War made the SJP’s protest look pretty tame. Part of it could be that Berkeley is a more snooty University and at Indiana University no student would ever complain about class being disrupted. Even when we trashed a ROTC office, the people working there made us coffee and were really nice since it gave them an excuse not to work. Berkeley takes itself more seriously I guess and I guess that makes dissent look more scary. But Indiana in general was far more conservative and there were noticeable differences in the way the University responded. Even though administration at IU politically disagreed with our action, they seemed to like the fact that students cared about something and therefore they never really cracked down. Hell, we even had a permanent tent city in a field on the campus and the administration never even tried to shut it down.
So what exactly about the SJP seemed extreme? I went to the protests and they seemed about as innocent as you can get for a protest. With Iraq at least you had to argue, but you just have to mention Jenin or Israel’s political assassinations and more people will know what you are talking about. Sorry for my confusion, it could be culture shock resulting from all that Berkeley prestige.
So what exactly about the SJP seemed extreme? I went to the protests and they seemed about as innocent as you can get for a protest. With Iraq at least you had to argue, but you just have to mention Jenin or Israel’s political assassinations and more people will know what you are talking about. Sorry for my confusion, it could be culture shock resulting from all that Berkeley prestige.
Note the 10th photo down. The speaker is Will Youmans, a UC Berkeley law student and SJP member. Doesn't he look handsome in that Champion brand sweatshirt? Well, Champion's clothing is made in sweatshops, and isn't it nutty that Mr. Youmans demands justice in Palestine, but dresses himself in fashionable athletic attire made by exploited workers somewhere in the 3rd world?
I LOVE college students!
http://www.uniteunion.org/sweatshops/faq.html
I LOVE college students!
http://www.uniteunion.org/sweatshops/faq.html
hypocrite?????
unless you live in isolation from all of society then by your argument, you too are taking part in the exploitation of workers.
all products are produced under a system of exploitation. Even if all of your food is organically grown by local farmers, all of your clothes are made in union shops, and your land didn't come form indians then you would still be taking part in the system
even if you do all of that (which i doubt you do) you would still have some things in your life that you can't escape as products of the system and hence an exploitation of wokers. how was your car and roads made? or how was is the public transportation system made? or how is your bike made? i am sure you didnt make it your self. and am sure that all of those things are the products of exploitation.
so shut the fuck up with that hypocrite shit. if anything those that go around calling others hypocrite are 1. hypocrites themselves because they live in this society and 2. they dont help anything, they just stand on the sidelines while people are actaully fighting agianst a system.
make real change, focus on the problem not the symptoms, change the whole structure
unless you live in isolation from all of society then by your argument, you too are taking part in the exploitation of workers.
all products are produced under a system of exploitation. Even if all of your food is organically grown by local farmers, all of your clothes are made in union shops, and your land didn't come form indians then you would still be taking part in the system
even if you do all of that (which i doubt you do) you would still have some things in your life that you can't escape as products of the system and hence an exploitation of wokers. how was your car and roads made? or how was is the public transportation system made? or how is your bike made? i am sure you didnt make it your self. and am sure that all of those things are the products of exploitation.
so shut the fuck up with that hypocrite shit. if anything those that go around calling others hypocrite are 1. hypocrites themselves because they live in this society and 2. they dont help anything, they just stand on the sidelines while people are actaully fighting agianst a system.
make real change, focus on the problem not the symptoms, change the whole structure
this is on the website you just put out
Is this a boycott?
No. We're not asking you to stop buying from any company, we're asking you to use the power of your voice to demand that the companies you shop from stop using sweatshops. For more information about what you can do to stop sweatshops, go to the Consumer Guide to Decent Clothes.
Is this a boycott?
No. We're not asking you to stop buying from any company, we're asking you to use the power of your voice to demand that the companies you shop from stop using sweatshops. For more information about what you can do to stop sweatshops, go to the Consumer Guide to Decent Clothes.
Perhaps you need a dictionary? I am not the one who is a leftist calling for *justice* I actually like the system, with all of its warts. It beats the utopian post revolutionary hallucinations that bay area leftists have.
Your angry and defensive response seems to indicate that you are like the law student wearing the sweatshop clothing. You wanna change the sytem, but you have no problem taking advantage of the goodies offered by it. Nice try jackass, come back again soon!
Your angry and defensive response seems to indicate that you are like the law student wearing the sweatshop clothing. You wanna change the sytem, but you have no problem taking advantage of the goodies offered by it. Nice try jackass, come back again soon!
that old bitch with the banner stop selling to israel and free palestine should burn in hell in die, that old wrinkled fuckin whore should go fuck yasser arafat.
i would not give a fuck if tomorrow on the news i heard she got hit by a truck and died.
i would not give a fuck if tomorrow on the news i heard she got hit by a truck and died.
That Old Bitch with the banner "Free Palestine, Stop Selling to Israel" should burn in hell and die. That old wrinkled fucking whore that probably does not know what she is talking about should go have Yasser Arafat fuck her in the ass. If lets say I hear on the new that she got hit by a train and killed I would REJOICE>
That old bitch with the banner free palestine and stop selling to israel should burn in hell and die. that wrinkled fucking whore should go and ask yasser arafat to fuck her in the ass. Lets say if i hear on the new tomorrow that, that old whore got hit by a train and killed i would rejoice!!!!!
why, would you like that?
well, I would like to know why you right wingers have to steal names and then whine about people who use different names which aren't stolen. Maybe they use different names because you steal theirs, O Little One.
Does it confuse your tiny mind? Does it make it too difficult to ignore the issues and focus on character assassination and ad hominems? Aw, poor widdle twoll.
Does it confuse your tiny mind? Does it make it too difficult to ignore the issues and focus on character assassination and ad hominems? Aw, poor widdle twoll.
I suggest you need to brush up on Tolerance and Diversity. You DO believe in that politically correct horseshit, don't you? Don't you use those words same as saying "racist" every third word? Be specific. Give examples.
what the fuck are you talking about now? That last post wasCOMPLETELY incomprehensible, other than that you are dead set on being a big hypocrit and stealing people's names.
I'm slinging ad hominems now, since someone has stolen my name and has pointed out my subconscious cravings to have sex with little doggies. I'm upset also because I simply HAVE to respond to the troll who uses my name. I MUST pull the lever. I AM a chimp. I really AM a fucking two-bit liberal asswipe.
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