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Brazilian homeless (photo by Latuff)

by Latuff (latuff [at] uninet.com.br)
Homeless sleeps next to a monument in Cinelandia square, downtown Rio de Janeiro.
Bronze plate reads "To our beloved homeland, the gratitude from its children".
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by Tough Love
1. work
2. hospital
3. jail

by Porky
Did you pay your "model" who had their photo taken so that you may once again inflate your ego? So fat, Latuff has proved he owns crayons, and now he owns a camera too. What he never does is actually something worth while, the fucking homophobe.
by Lefty
Latuff probably photographed him, buggered him, then dumped him. That is the sick sort of fuck he is. There is no proof that this child is anything other than relaxing in the sun and if anything, Latuff robbed him of his dignity when he a) Buggered him
b) Photographed him
c) Used the boy's image to promote him self. What a total scum bag.
by Andy
The two above comments did raise issues. Did Latuf pay the object, or not? He is an obsessive self-promoting individual. I doubt he buggered him though.
by Bruce Foster
Because I am a batty boy.
by Mr. Normal
I never really bought in to the Holy Trinity story. It just didn't make any sense.

But now there's a new, dumbed-down Trinity.

It's truth couldn't be much more transparent:

Porky, Lefty and Andy are all the same cowardly homophobe.

What a revelation! Who would've thunk it? :-P

by e-man
another example of a photo frozen in time. it may be real, it may be staged, stranger things have happened.

a hero is an ordinary person who, when found in a specific situation, does extraordinary things. i see nothing extraordinary about owning a camera and shooting pictures of homeless people. one could do that is every large city all over the world.

surely we all recognized there are citizens in our world who are without homes. don't cry out or wait for the government to assist these people, it is not the duty of the government, it is the duty of people like you and me. we either care enough about our fellow man to help him if he so desires, or we do not. i certainly hope latuff, after photographing this child, woke him up and provided for him a meal and allowed him to stay at his home overnight or assisted him to a shelter of some type. if not, he is hypocritical and derelict in his duty as a member of the human race.
by Marselo
i could easily take a more impacting picture of a homeless child suffering from the cold just walking through Mexico City with my own camera. i highly doubt that Latuff in Rio had to do anything more than the same to obtain this picture at this time at this place with this kid in it.

i don't know why y'all are so caught up in dismantling Latuff's intentions in this picture, he's an artist, and definitely a conscious one.

please learn about social justice arts/artists before jumping the gun on Latuff's picture and take some history lessons on Brasil and its people. i don't see him trying to be a "hero" (by whatever assumption or, even worse, definition people are trying to make up in here), and this picture is a reminder of the situation in Brasil with a slight touch of the world today.

all power to the social arts movement and to Latuff! -M
by Dana
Latuff is not even a blimp on Ariel Sharon's radar screen. Latuff has nothing to fear. He is a nobody.
LaTuff publishes a photo of a sleeping homeless child. Seems pretty neutral, doesn't it?

We all know the streets of Brazil's cities teem with homeless children. Mr. (or Ms.) "Tough Love" might be thrilled to learn of another alternative to such squalor: Brazilian police agencies' documented practice of rounding up street children and driving them to rural areas to be summarily executed and left to rot by the roadside.

Meanwhile, a bunch of folks who obviously have never lacked for the means or the spare time to anonymously demonstrate their ignorance on the IMC want to speculate on whether LaTuff's a wanker or not. Seems to me that if we're going to organize resistance to a corporate culture that permits scenes like this one to protect their sacred bottom-line, we've got to focus on how we as people and our issues are alike, not how drolly we can bag on each other.

Cheer up folks! There were 100 families on the waiting list for emergency shelter in SF back in 1998, when the Board of Supes passed a resolution that created a "no turn away" policy for homeless families seeking shelter. Despite the resolution, that number today hovers between 140-150 families on the waiting list. At the current rate of increase, we'll soon be able to photograph all the homeless children we could ever desire right here on the streets of San Francisco.

Tough love is a very lame excuse employed mostly by those too lazy to give a shit, and too selfish to accept their social responsibility.

LaTuff may or may not be a wanker, but at least he's a real person trying to open people's eyes -- unlike his anonymous critics.
by rodney marsh
The people of Brasil are concerned about REAL problems, like whether or not their team will win the World Cup.

"Tough love is a very lame excuse employed mostly by those too lazy to give a shit, and too selfish to accept their social responsibility."

Speak for yourself, asswipe. I help out in my home town, but I also employ "tough love." I tell the people who come in that if they want to change their lives around, they need to get off the bottle and off the drugs, clean up and become a part of mainstream society, and if they don't they'll likely end up dead. They don't like to hear it, they rather have everything just handed to them for the rest of their lives, but that doesn't help them in the long run. They either want to change or they don't. Those who do will put out the effort. Those who don't deserve what they get. Sometimes when they realize that no one's going to hand them everything they need, they suddenly wake up. That's "tough love."
by chance martin
"They either want to change or they don't. Those who do will put out the effort. Those who don't deserve what they get."

And just exactly what, do you suppose, does that child in the photo "deserve," Mr. Marsh?

by rodney marsh
"And just exactly what, do you suppose, does that child in the photo "deserve," Mr. Marsh?"

A chance (when he becomes of age). What he does with it after that is up to him. It's called "free will". Or do we want to strip that of him also?

Besides, if you DO work with the homeless, you know children are treated differently than adults.
by Eric
Latuff is an artist. Nothing wrong with that.

"Every time I write a rhyme
people think it's a crime
to say what's on my mind." - Eminem
by Eric
"I don't gotta say a word.
I just flip 'em the bird
and keep goin'
I don't take shit from noone." - Eminem
by Eric
and 4 grammys.

"Preacher preacher, fifth grade teacher
You can't reach me, my mom can't neither
You can't teach me a goddamn thing cause
I watch TV, and Comcast cable
and you ain't able to stop these thoughts
You can't stop me from toppin these charts
And you can't stop me from droppin each March
with a brand new cd for these fuckin retards
Duhhh, and to think, it's just little ol' me
Mr. "Don't Give A Fuck," still won't leave" -Eminem
by Eric
"His raps are crude, simplistic, puerile and egocentric. "

The same argument can be made about Latuff's work. But it's all in the eye of the beholder. Or more simply, "opinions are like a-holes. We all have one, and most of them stink."
by Todd (elomeno [at] yahoo.com)
All of Latuff's cartoons are one sided images blaiming the United States on all the worlds problems. He even has drawn some cartoons blaiming the United States on things that it did not do(like the Kursk tragidy).
He supported the 911 attacks in several cartoons and gives wrong information(like the jews control the U.S. media)to spread his hateful twisted propaganda.
The U.S. has survived and defated the likes of Hitler,Tojo,and communism and will persevere the likes of Osama,Saddam,Arafat and Latuff.
That's one opinion.
by Todd (elomeno [at] yahoo.com)
Latuff creates hateful cartoons that blaim's all of the worlds problems on the U.S. weather its guilty or not.
Latuff is a hypocrite, he blast's Isreal for fighting terroism but supports the homicide bombers, he attacks the U.S. for fighting the evil taliban and al-quida but supported the 911 attacks.If you want to see the end of poverty like that photo of that child, stop blaiming America(that has given billion of dollers in aid to Brazil by the way) and work on an economy that works(like capitolism) then one that does not (like socalism).
by sdfoih
e-mail latuff a letter critizing his work, give yourself a jewish last name, and watch him sick his jew-hating dogs on you.
by Todd
And Communism and Socialism suck the life out of the people that live under it. There are poverty aplenty in these nations. Why do you think eastern europe and Russia got rid of Communism, an american conspricy?
Brazils problems are due to years and years of coruption and mismagement. Just blaiming capitolism and America (and sometimes the jews)is what Latuff does does not help anything.
And as for Emenim, Emenim does not charade himself as a politcal and social anything, he's just there for the Chicks,booze and Drugs.
by Cameron
>Capitalism works very well for the rich. For the rest of us, i.e. almost everybody, it sucks.

Speak for yourself. I'm not rich ($25K/yr.) and capitalism works very well for me.

Don't ever take it upon yourself to speak "For the rest of us, i.e. almost everybody". You are not in a position to speak on behalf of "almost everybody". It's rude. It's dishonest. It's in very bad form.
by Cameron
nessie, you're the biggest dumbfuck to ever walk the earth. Your statement was QUOTE ". For the rest of US, i.e. almost everybody, it (capitalism) sucks." You said US! US! US! US! US! US! US!!!!!! US means "including ME (nessie)" So you can get your dumb fucking ass off your high horse. You, again, are in no position to lecture me or ANYONE!! Unless you live without "clean running water, enough to eat, medical care, education, electricity, natural gas, heating, air conditioning, refrigeration, telephones, television, computers and the internet", then you are not a member of the US of which you speak, and by your own admission are part of those who "squander(ing) wealth while tens of thousands of innocent children a day die from from outright starvation and millions more waste away from malnutrition and succumb to preventable disease. "

Have you no shame?

by zooloo
I'll cover your back nessie...

By the sounds of your detractor's attacks, you're onto the truth big time. Otherwise there wouldn't be the high level of emotion in their comments.

Question: why have so many Americans become arogant and downright mean? (my A: they are scared; scared of being attacked; scared of facing reality; scared to realize they have been lied to by their 'leaders' for so long and have bought the lies, indeed bought into them; scared of what they fear is coming to them for their blatant disregard for their fellow man around the globe; fear that they will lose their life of luxury; fear that they may have to get off their asses and do something about the new-world-order lunatics in the whitehouse.) I thot we were supposed to be interested in freedom and democracy and good things like caring and concern for others. This has become nearly impossible to detect. Or at least that is what the corporate-controlled mass media wants us to believe. Shame. The USA was once looked up to, but no longer. It is now seen as the great beast, the black hole into which all life and goodness is being sucked. Fortunately others around the world know its not the average American that is the problem. They know we are just heavily propagandized. They and we must realize it is the power elites at the very top who are the problem. The emporer is corrupt (whats new?). We fought our way out of that shit awhile back. Now we have to do it again.

Some thots from one of America's founding fathers to ponder:

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-- Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
-- Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
-- Thomas Jefferson to A. Stuart, 1791

"Do not bite the bait of pleasure till you know there is no hook beneath it."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear."
-- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"
-- Thomas Jefferson

As to nessie's detractors, when those who claim they want to help can do nothing but cut down others, either verbally or physically, they lose all credibility and right to expound the cause of freedom, for they no longer speak of it nor for it. z
by paul
Re: nessies coments >>"By the sounds of your detractor's attacks, you're onto the truth big time."

Oh, this is choice. If nessie attacks or challeges what someone says, it's "In Defense of ... all loving people", but if others attack or challenge him, it's because they are "arrogant and downright mean".

Cameron got it right. nessie said "us" when refering to those to whom capitalism "sucked" and then went on to deride people who live in luxury while the rest of the world was dieing of malnutrition and starvation; the irony being that nessie himself is one of those who he would consider to be living in luxury, but all the while he's saying "you're" this and "you're" that, as though he's not included. He got caught and we'll see if he's big enough to fess up to it.

To the question: why have so many Americans become arrogant and downright mean?

I don't agree that "many Americans are arrogant and mean." Just because they don't see things the way you do politiclly doesn't make them arrogant and mean.

And I am neither scared nor do I fear my government or what is going on around me. To live in fear is not to live at all. I don't believe the average American is under some delusion that a government, including our present system of government, can't be misused. But I don't believe the average American is wringing their hands and worrying about it all day, nor do I believe that when it becomes evident that the system is being abused we will sit by and let it happen. And just because YOU believe it is happening now, doesn't mean that it is. To believe that it is would be pretentious on your part.

I find most people who are arrogant have come to believe they are the center of the universe. Pretty soon something happens and they come crashing back to earth, and at least the smart ones will learn from their stupidity.

If someone is just downright mean, they typically end up being very alone, or at least it can probably be said that people who are worth being around are not people they will ever come to know in any meaningful way.

by Horrified
How dare you possess an instrument of death and destruction! Me thinks you'll get thrown out of the party for this one......;)
by Eric
Futile.

Entry Word: futile
Function: adjective
Text: barren of results <efforts to convince him were futile>

Synonyms: abortive, bootless, fruitless, ineffective, ineffectual, unavailable, unavailing, unprevailing, unproductive, useless, vain

Related Word: empty, hollow, idle, nugatory, otiose; inadequate, inefficacious, inefficient, insufficient; unsatisfactory, unsuccessful

Idioms: in vain, of no avail, to no effect, no dice

My personal favorite: Cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
by zooloo
Once again, contemplate the following quotes by America's founding father:

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-- Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
-- Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
-- Thomas Jefferson to A. Stuart, 1791

Eric..... why do u say futile? Whats that all about?

Nessie, you lifted my spirits when u wrote you're here for us, not just yourself. Likewise. Nice to see some people have grown up, amidst this system that attempts to keep us dumb and immature. z

by Cameron
nessie says...

>By world standards, I'm rich.

In other words, nessie doesn't ...

> "live without clean running water, enough to eat, medical care, education, electricity, natural gas, heating, air conditioning, refrigeration, telephones, television, computers and the internet"

and is therefore...

"squander(ing) wealth while tens of thousands of innocent children a day die from from outright starvation and millions more waste away from malnutrition and succumb to preventable disease".

>"I live as frugal as I can because I have no right to take more than my share while others have less than theirs..."

Oh, but you are taking more than your fair share, even now. Why should anyone listen to someone who essentially says "Do as I say but not as I do"?

You need to remove the beam from your own eye before you can see clearly to remove the small, tiny splinter from your brother's eye.

Will you?
by Cameron
This guy can't even admit that he's got his balls in a crack.

Here let me help you.
by Cameron
...it always feels better when you admit the truth. nessie's on his way to maturing everyone!!
by Eric
Cameron, you're fighting a losing battle. This guy Nessie is commonly referred to here as Don Quixote for his ability to build his own enemies out of straw and then valiantly slaying them. He's notorious for getting himself in circular, catch 22 arguments, and then defending them with the opposing viewpoint or by referencing fictional prose previously written by himself. In short, he'll cite himself as a reference.

He's a self proclaimed anarchist in a lifelong battle to defeat capitalism.

And he's also kinda weird.
by Cameron
I know about DQ. I love to box him in a corner and watch him squirm.

DQ, the world will be a better place in about 30 years when you're cold and dead in the ground.

- brigg
by zooloo
hmm. interesting.

Oh, and by the way, i am only interested in discussions now where ideas are the things debated, not negative and/or sarcastic comments. Life's too short to waste.
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