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They deserve to die.
Or perhaps I will blow up a street market?
Maybe a Bat Mitzvah party?
So many innocents, but unfortunately I can
detonate just one bomb belt
in fact, all israelis are complicit. people are all in some way responsible for not standing up to their government in the face of injustice. why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?
and have you ever thought that perhaps suicide bombers aren't just religious fanatics? ok, so being a martyr could be part of it, but perhaps there are larger goals here, like, terrorizing the complicit israeli population into telling its own government to get the fuck out of the occupied territories. it certainly isn't the prettiest, most humane, or most disgustingly white liberal way of making demands, but it also isn't something done by people with too much time on their hands. they are fighting for their land. it's both that simple, and more complex.
And by the way, there are many people in Israel who are against their government's policies. That's why their always protesting and writing editorials and holding elections, among other activities you don't see in PA areas. Perhaps you've not heard of the many Israeli peace groups, like Gush Shalom and B'tselem? Sorry, but until there are some Palestinian freedom fighters signing petitions against the practice of suicide bombings in unoccupied Tel Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem, etc., these cannot be considered as anything other than the gratuitous terrorist murder assaults that they are. If you think they can be justified, that's your problem, but how come we don't see this in other countries where the Palestinians are treated even worse, or when Jordan and Egypt illegally occupied Gaza and the West Bank for almost 20 years?
"Genocidal war against civilians" is correct. That's what Israel is carrying out against the Palestinians. Forced relocation and starvation in their "homelands". Don't ask me to condemn the Arab nations for refusing to embrace populations that the "Jewish State" forces on them. Gratutitous terrorist murder assaults. Yeah right. Like US made Black Hawk helicopters flown by Israeli pilots dropping missiles into residential areas of Palestine. Like a ten to one ratio in Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths. That's gratuitous. If you think that can be justified, that's your problem. Suicide bombers have the correct target. There are no civilians in war. Only the Israeli people can stop the colonial war.
Plenty of civilian groups decrying the bombings?
There are plenty of Palestinian groups decrying suicide bombings of civilians and embracing peace. Only demagogues believe otherwise. Try Palestine Media Watch for a start: http://64.226.129.19/pmw/main.html
"Genocidal war against civilians" is correct. That's what Israel is carrying out against the Palestinians. Forced relocation and starvation in their "homelands". Don't ask me to condemn the Arab nations for refusing to embrace populations that the "Jewish State" forces on them. Gratutitous terrorist murder assaults. Yeah right. Like US made Black Hawk helicopters flown by Israeli pilots dropping missiles into residential areas of Palestine. Like a ten to one ratio in Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths. That's gratuitous. If you think that can be justified, that's your problem. Suicide bombers have the correct target. There are no civilians in war. Only the Israeli people can stop the colonial war.
Plenty of civilian groups decrying the bombings?
There are plenty of Palestinian groups decrying suicide bombings of civilians and embracing peace. Only demagogues believe otherwise. Try Palestine Media Watch for a start: http://64.226.129.19/pmw/main.html
"Genocidal war against civilians" is correct. That's what Israel is carrying out against the Palestinians. Forced relocation and starvation in their "homelands". Don't ask me to condemn the Arab nations for refusing to embrace populations that the "Jewish State" forces on them. Gratutitous terrorist murder assaults. Yeah right. Like US made Black Hawk helicopters flown by Israeli pilots dropping missiles into residential areas of Palestine. Like a ten to one ratio in Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths. That's gratuitous. If you think that can be justified, that's your problem. Suicide bombers have the correct target. There are no civilians in war. Only the Israeli people can stop the colonial war.
Plenty of civilian groups decrying the bombings?
There are plenty of Palestinian groups decrying suicide bombings of civilians and embracing peace. Only demagogues believe otherwise. Try Palestine Media Watch for a start: http://64.226.129.19/pmw/main.html
"Genocidal war against civilians" is correct. That's what Israel is carrying out against the Palestinians. Forced relocation and starvation in their "homelands". Don't ask me to condemn the Arab nations for refusing to embrace populations that the "Jewish State" forces on them. Gratutitous terrorist murder assaults. Yeah right. Like US made Black Hawk helicopters flown by Israeli pilots dropping missiles into residential areas of Palestine. Like a ten to one ratio in Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths. That's gratuitous. If you think that can be justified, that's your problem. Suicide bombers have the correct target. There are no civilians in war. Only the Israeli people can stop the colonial war.
Plenty of civilian groups decrying the bombings?
There are plenty of Palestinian groups decrying suicide bombings of civilians and embracing peace. Only demagogues believe otherwise. Try Palestine Media Watch for a start: http://64.226.129.19/pmw/main.html
"Genocidal war against civilians" is correct. That's what Israel is carrying out against the Palestinians. Forced relocation and starvation in their "homelands". Don't ask me to condemn the Arab nations for refusing to embrace populations that the "Jewish State" forces on them. Gratutitous terrorist murder assaults. Yeah right. Like US made Black Hawk helicopters flown by Israeli pilots dropping missiles into residential areas of Palestine. Like a ten to one ratio in Palestinian deaths to Israeli deaths. That's gratuitous. If you think that can be justified, that's your problem. Suicide bombers have the correct target. There are no civilians in war. Only the Israeli people can stop the colonial war.
And I looked at the website. I didn't say too much news of Palestinians protesting the bombings. I did the a comparison made between Israel's treatment of the Palestinians (writing numbers on their arms with washable markers) to how Jews were treated at Auschwitz (you know, rape, starvation, being packed into cattle cars, being gassed, used for medical experiments, all the sorts of things currently being do to Palestinians in the West Bank). Sorry, but if Arafat can't even call it what it is (he calls suicide bombing military operations), most of the Arab press can't call it what it (they talk about heroic martyrdoms and all that cant), and most of the Palestinians can't call it what it is (they call it a legitimate means of war) then there isn't an outcry among the Palestinias or anywhere else in the Arab world.
And the Arab states have a responsibility to help the Palestinians because they're the ones who have most perpetuated the generations long status of their being refugees. Remember: in 1948, the Palestinians who decided to stay in Israel became citizens. The ones who didn't ended up in refugee camps in either Jordan or Egypt or somewhere else, where nobody has done anything to resettle them. These refugees haven't been forced on them by anyone but themselves.
And despite what you think, there are civilians in war, and there are also teenagers who enjoy eating pizza and hanging out in pizza parlors in unoccupied cities that aren't disputed by anybody except racist fanatics. That's a nice apology for terrorism you make, too bad it's utterly bogus. And if you don't like the Israeli response, what do you suggest: Israeli citizens suicide bombing felafal shops in the West Bank and Gaza? Get real.
For NPR, violence is calm if it's violence against Palestinians January 10, 2002
Before the January 9 gun battle on the Gaza Strip, National Public Radio (NPR) had for weeks been telling its listeners that Israel/Palestine was in a period of "relative quiet."
"Morning Edition" anchor Bob Edwards on January 3 stated that U.S. envoy Anthony Zinni was coming to the region during "a time of comparative quiet." In another report the same day, correspondent Linda Gradstein
referred to "the relative calm of the past few weeks." Other NPR reports have mentioned the "recent calm" (1/5/02) or the "fragile period of quiet" (1/7/02).
What NPR means by this was spelled out most explicitly by Linda Gradstein in a January 4 report on the envoy's mission. "You know, there's been actually three weeks of relative quiet," she said. "Only one Israeli has
been killed in those three weeks, as opposed to 44 Israelis who were killed when Zinni was here last time in November and early December."
What Gradstein didn't mention-- and what someone who relied on NPR for their Middle Eastern news would have little idea of -- was that this has been in no way a period of calm for Palestinians. In fact, in the three-week period that Gradstein referred to, at least 26 Palestinians were killed by occupation forces-- more than one a day. '
OK, Here it's 26 to one.
It all depends on what time period you select. The ten to one figure was from the start of Intifada 2 until about last Dec. A little outdated now, I'm sure, since Israeli tanks plowed through Ramallah.
"Israeli citizens suicide bombing felafal shops in the West Bank and Gaza? Get real. "
Israelis don't need to go on suicide bombing missions. They have an Army. One of the biggest in the world. Israel has been the largest recipient of US Foreign Aid (read military arms) for more than twenty years.
If these were Frenchmen bombing Germans in WWII you would call them "the Resistance". The Germans called them terrorists. And yes, shooting pregnant women at checkpoints is about as Nazi as you can get. Don't be lazy. Don't make me do your work for you. It's happened twice.
How about Israel rejecting a UN resolution passed 182 to 3 (US, Australia and Israel) that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to the *occupied territories*?
Torture? Try Amnesty International: 4/12/2001
"Amnesty International has frequently expressed its concern that Israel has committed grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions. Since the beginning of the intifada more than 700 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli security forces. Most were unlawfully killed; they included at least 150 children and 60 Palestinians who were assassinated. Palestinian detainees frequently suffer torture or other ill treatment under interrogation. "
It's too bad that Israelis and Palestinians have to be deluded and die just to keep the Middle East destabilized so that we can all have cheap oil. Setting up Israel was part of Britain's last gasp as an Empire. We have them to thank for our lifestyle. And our "white man's burden". Go Colin! Go Zinni! Go Rumsfeld! Iraq, your next baby! You've got some Freedom to Endure.
I feel stupid debating this with you. You'll note that no other smashed lefty is willing to mock you. What are you going to do to celebrate April 19?
You and your koran can go to hell!! i can't believe you and your stupid holy war. stop killing innocent people you bastards and grow some f#$%@*! balls!!! I hope the Jews waste you!
I work in the department of psychiatry and society in Harvard. After these events in Israel, we started a project trying to find a pattern on suicide bombings. We researched so many materials. So far we noticed the suicide bombers attacking people after a death of a relative or friend.
The Red Cross and the US Human Rights Association has decided to join our project, after they found 2 camp in Israel were nearly 8000 Palestinians have been slaughtered.
I am only telling you this because i have noticed that
5 out of 7 US citizens are siding with Israel. a good number of departments in Harvard have decided to support Palestine
Dr. Mike Bernstein
Doctor, why didn't you ask yourself the question why only muslims are doing this? There are so many people living in poverty in the world who are not killing innocent people. Do you really think they are suffering because of Israel? Why their fellows Arabs don't help them and keep them in poverty? They want them to be a tool in the war against Israel. I am from Russia. We have people who fight against regime and they never killed innocent. They didn't kill children. they protested as brave people do. Palestinians are acting as cowards. But they are manipulated by their leaders. These fascists should really be punished for many things: for raising their children in hatred, for killing their own dissidents, for killing innocent people in Israel and other countries. And you Marc, if you are real person, you help them... Why?