South Berkeley: Three Cops Beat One Black Man

There were about 20 people who gathered, all of them Black people except for one white person (me) and the owners of the corner store, who are Arab-Americans.

Look at the face of the female pig. She is having a good time. There is nothing a cop enjoys more than beating a African American or a Native American. It brings them together. Comrades.

This is about the only time that I can agree with nessie and her belief in violence as a means to an end. I do believe that any cop who abuses his/her duty to their employers in this way, needs to be publicly whipped, by the relatives of the people they have abused.

I am sorry for you folks who are being abused by these insane pigs. If they are not killing you, then they are expecting you do their work for starvation wages. They bring in drugs, via the CIA, in an effort to destroy black communities. Once the individuals are addicted to the CIA drugs, then they turn them into WackenBush slaves. Fill the prisons with black men in an effort to maintain Americracker's caste system. The untouchables. The Blacks, the Natives and the Latinos.

White America is all for it. They have a need to know that there is a large body of individuals who they lord it over. White America needs to know that they are not a the bottom of the hierarchy ladder. That there is someone there, below them, to be kicked and beaten and abused. And as long as it is just a bunch of niggers and blanket ass red skins who are being abused, White Americracker will remain complaint.

We don't exercise enough control over our pigs. We forget that they are violence prone, control freaks, who run in packs, and lie, steal, abuse, murder and rob the untouchables of their basic human rights.

All you pigs can bend over and suck a big one. Right along with your lawyers and judges and drug dealing prison guards.

fuck off Cherokee. Most cops are not pigs and are here to protect our community. (no I am not white)

If they are so wonderful, then why don't they clean up their own ranks? Why don't they go after these KKK cops in their own place of employment? I am sorry, by, but I believe they are the most corruptable individuals on earth. When they clean up their own back yard, then I will jump on your fuck you wagon. Are you a cop?

Cherokee, You're a fucking idiot. As soon as you get your ass kicked by a real criminal, who are you going to cry to? The same pigs, you hate so much. You are a tool for the criminals, and drug dealers, who hold the honest citizens of the low income communities hostage. You're not protecting anybody's rights, you pompous fuck.

"Cherokee, You're a fucking idiot. As soon as you get your ass kicked by a real criminal, who are you going to cry to? The same pigs, you hate so much"

Hey dipshit. I've been fucked with by so called "real criminals" and i never fucking went to the police. Because "real people" dont go to the fucking police they solve problems themselves. Stupid fuck you probably call the police everytime your neighbors play their music loud. Fuck the police and fuck you.

Nessie has the right idea. Do it like he does:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/03/117426.php#117645

The "female pig" as you so beautifully put it is part Native American, you dumb ass.

I think Cherokee is feeling a little insecure, cause she could woop his ass...LOL

ALL THESE PIGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INSIDE THE WTC WHEN THAT BABY WENT DOWN!!!

ALL PIGS DESERVE TO BE SHOT AND KILLED
THEY ALL ALL FUCKING NAZIS!!!!


PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEM ARE NO BETTER THAN OSAMA BIN LADDEN!!!

DEATH TO ALL PIGS!!!!!!!!

Those of you who support the cops because you think that they're here to protect you should study the history of cops and their actions throughout that history. The cops work for the state and, as Adam Smith said, the purpose of the state is to protect those with property against those without it. (By property, he didn't just mean the same things most others in society have, like a home and a car in this country.)

The first cops were used to protect rich people from bandits on "highways" in Europe. As the punk band MDC once said, the cops are the army of the rich. Protecting average people is only secondary to protecting rich people and their property. Here are a few examples of how cops protect rich people first and the rest of us second, if at all.

1) When the Gulf massacre happened and people filled the streets in San Francisco, there was an army of cops in front of the Chevron building, even though there had been no threat to it. Can anyone imagine an army of cops protecting someone's house -- someone who's not rich, that is -- because the person is afraid that he or she might be attacked?

2) When Polly Klaas was kidnapped in Santa Rosa, the cops actually questioned her kidnapper and let him go WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE. There were no roadblocks or helicopters used to try to find her, and the police work was totally incompetent. A little while later, a bank in Santa Rosa was robbed. Immediately there were roadblocks, helicopters, and the cops caught the robbers within 20 minutes.

3) In Berkeley, the cops have a special alarm system for the rich people who live in the hills, and they get a much faster response than the rest of the city. This is not a secret and the cops admit this.

Some cops are just misguided and/or misinfomed people who actually think that they help regular people by being cops. Some of them are absolute pigs, control freaks, and violence prone. Regardless of their individual personalities, their main job is to protect the rich and their property, and only secondarily protect us.

In answer to Randy Taylor, "real" criminals are no better or worse than cops, because cops are real criminals. I have been attacked by both, but have had much more trouble with cops than with street criminals. Anyone who wants to eliminate street crime should work on eliminating poverty and legalizing drugs. Those are by far the biggest causes of street crime, and it will never go away without dealing with them.

Also, white collar crime actually kills and injures more people, and steals more money from all of us than street crime does. Just ask anyone who lives in the Richmond flatlands. When was the last time you saw a cop be of any help against white collar criminals?

Perhaps you can show me where it says their job is to protect ANYONE?

Face it, teh courts have long ruled that the police are under NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT ANYONE.

wrong, mr hova, they do protect.

They protect each other.

IF there is evidence that can incriminate one of thier own, the others would simply destroy it.

If there are witnesses, they simply hunt them down like animals.

Let's face it, Cops have the moral ethics of
Tony Soprano.

It's really sad to see once again, that you white liberals seem to know what is good for south Berkeley blacks. The bottom line is that the guy the cops arrested had been reported to the police by a black homeowner. Any anarchist on this site wanna try to claim home ownership? I have a cousin on the force, and it's really sad you guys are so quick to jump to judgement without doing a little research or asking a few questions. It's equally sad how you come across as being so very angry and hurt at the world. It's so sad clearly and rationally.

Granted, you hate cops....huge personal problem. Why, just why don't you ever mention anything favorable about officers. What about the ones who help people, look for missing kids, respond to your calls of being mugged on the street, arrest and book rapists? Are they ALL bad? Are they? I dare you to admit this.

As a black man raised in south Berkeley, you'd be suprised to know that most blacks in Berkeley support the high profile activities of the task officers, mainly because the dope dealers (mostly blacks) have been reeking havoc on our community for decades. As resident, I support their actions. If they screw up or go overboard, I trust the system to address these wrongful acts. If your video shows wrongful acts then give copies to the police. From what I know about the City, they will use them to discipline the officers.

"As a black man raised in south Berkeley, you'd be suprised to know that most blacks in Berkeley support the high profile activities of the task officers, mainly because the dope dealers (mostly blacks) have been reeking havoc on our community for decades"

1. I doubt you are a black man in south berkeley
2. If you are, maybe its time you understand what "Uncle Tom" means, if you arent aware of what the police (black and white alike) are doing to other black people, you are ignorant. If you are aware and you dont care, then you are a piece of shit.
3. If you really "trust the system" then you are both ignorant and naive.

fuck off, cop.

I heard about some shit that went down in Monterey,
Where 3 cops smoked this one dude in his section 8 housing.

My source was an intelligent dude who used to be good friends with him

Some of the black cops are down with this shit too though.

Trusting the police to do their job is one thing. Accepting the beatings and killings of people is another. since you trust the system so much, see if the system will save your soul from and angry God. There are more scriptures in the Bible with regards to protecting the poor and not causing them to sin because of their poverty than there are about adultery and murder. America is going to pay a big price at the hand of an Angry God because we are greedy and selfish. then we blame the poor for doing what they have to do or believe they have to do to survive. the bible teaches that if you cause one to sin you are in a worse position. Years of discrimination and abuse have taken a toll on our community and many are still suffering. The blacks that have made it seem to think they owe nothing to anyone. That is a LIE. We are under a biblical and moral obligation to give to those who have less. The early church was so filled with love and compassion that they sold their homes and possessions and divided them up so everyone had. when one couple sold their home and kept part of the money and lied about it, they were struck down on the spot. You have been fed many lies by white america but they forgot to tell you that you will have to face an angry God one day and explain your position. Where are all the guns and drugs coming from???????????????? Think about that the next time you get on your high horse.

screw u cherokkie, there is no need for calling pigs to the police, they serve our cummunities, no matter what they risk there lives for us.

read Christian Parenti's book Lockdown America for some details on how corrupt the police are and who is building up the police to war on the poor and people that have brown/black skin. The cops have never been there for me when I need them, yet they are there to brutalize and disrupt communities.

Look at you spewing your filth. Stop filling yourselves up with venomous trash and maybe you'll find some peace in your lives.

Eric finds the truth frightening. He tells himself we're full of shit to make himself feel better.

ok now all this talk about pigs, they are fucking pigs , all of them they are all dirty ive never met one nice cop they are all on power trips jkust becuase they have a fucking gun and a badge, instead of fucking going after the big criminals, rapists and fucking murderers they will stop some kid for smoking a cigarette. This is bull shit all cops are just fucking assholes they all suck. they are the criminals, so many fucking dirty cops. They dont want to listen to what u have to say. Its what they want to hear is all they listen too. And america isnt free, u can just get fucking stopped for swearing on the street freedom of speech my ass. the one who tells the truth is always a cop no matter how u take them to court they cant be beat because they are the ones who are always believed over a middle or low class citizen. PEACE, NEVER

i agree 1000% with the last comment.

Hello Mike there ARE NO decent cops....they are ALL on power trips.....You are the picture underneath the caption OCCUPATIONAL BIGOT.......What about the NYPD cop refusing to go after homless people......what about those one or two cops that might actually care about the people they serve......"Aww screw it, you get the rope I will find the tree".....so it starts again.............

... is one who turns in their fellow officers. Like, for instance, that rookie cop who turned in the Oakland Riders. All the other ones who, on a daily basis, protect the criminals on the police force are just as guilty.

well, definitely, the occupation would invite people with a certain personality.
Though, I was once at a party of almost all gay men and this guy was smoking pot and showing everyone his new nipple piercings and talking like a snowboarder (he was about 21) and he mentioned that he was a police officer. My friend whose party it was described the party he went to that was held by officers and it sounded a bit illegal.

I'm very curious about the bicycle in the picture, was it somehow involved? There are a lot of stories (rarely reported) of police harassing bicyclists in west berkeley.

The issue of "driving while black" needs to be expanded to include bicycling.

Police have consistently acted in a racist fashion at the Berkeley Critical Mass rides, which are monthly demonstrations against just these and so many more injustices. They are also -- on the positive -- celebrations and street reclamations.

A little story: just before Christmas a couple years ago I went out and did a little shopping so I'd have food when all the stores were closed. I was carrying it all in my backpack. I got to an intersection where five officers (mostly white, one asian) were surrounding a black man with a bicycle. Of course I immediately pulled over, placed my bike at a safe distance, and stood by to observe for his protection. I didn't (and still don't) know what was going on.

The next thing I know, three cops march over to me and say, "Mr. Meggs, put your hands behind your back". They arrested me on a ticket I got demonstrating. The ticket had "disappeared" from the system so I thought it was gone. Then it (strategically, I would think) reappeared and I was issued a warrant for my arrest without knowing it.

I took this issue to the PRC calling for a policy change that would ensure that police did not arrest people on minor warrants when they were well known and not a flight risk. Rather the person would be advised and given a warning. Unfortunately, the Mayor Dean side of the council-appointed commissioners ruled the day with a deadlock (one commissioner knew me and stood aside).

Of particular interest is that one of the cops involved was Officer Lindenau.

He was implicated in striking people and using excessive force in a PRC complaint stemming from the February 9 police brutality against the "Critical Mass" incident at the Reclaim the Streets demonstration in support of the indigenous uprising in Ecuador.

We are (for once, at long last) suing over that and three other cases.

Please write a letter to the City Council urging them to settle these cases which take a lot of activists' time and money to conduct, as well as a lot of the City's money -- and given how clearly wrong the cops were, it only makes sense to settle.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/01/1563964

-jason-

p.s. And if you'd like to add your voice and join a fun protest, please come to Berkeley Critical Mass February 14, 5:30 PM to leave after 6 PM, downtown Berkeley BART. This month: party afterwards, the second annual anarchist crush night.

http://www.berkeleycriticalmass.org/

I need to clarify, Lindenau wasn't at the copwatching incident before Christmas where I was arrested. When I said it was of interest that he was present, I meant that he was one of the three cops reported involved in this story.

I meant also to finish the part about the groceries. The cops said they'd have to throw out all my perishables since I was in jail. So on a little $100 or so ticket I wasn't even aware of, I spent a night in jail without warning and my groceries were subject to destruction, practically on Christmas eve.

Almost as mad as a tree,

-jason-

The bike belonged to a bystander, not the person being arrested.

photog: thanks for the info

nessie: sorry to hear that happened to you. i am wondering if that is legal... i've had a lot of property taken and not returned over the years as well, but never like that, and never for as expensive an item. lots of bicycles. i once had a car towed for harassment purposes and as a result of the illegal search (4th amendment is a joke in your town) i was charged with bogus crimes and the car impounded...

the cops later gloated that i had lost the car. fortunately, some people have a heart...

(yes that's right i had a car long ago, it was my home in fact, a ford escort).

If the incident took long enough to draw a crowd before backup could arrive- is that wat happened because it reads that way- then why didn't the crowd stop it?are we contenet to let those who say they have power abuse that so called power? there were three cops- and 20 people. i'm sure 20 people could have subduded the officers had they been out of control. maybe though, being from the south where we do stop the the occasional officer from doing wrong, it is a product of fear. however the next time i see a social injustice going where there is a majority who could help stop it i'm going to move towards stopping it.

This entire thread is total bullshit. right. the cops are the criminals.. right. you are all revolutionaries fighting the evil empire. right. all the black people here are downtrodeen. right. all the white people here are "down with the cause" right.
shut the fuck up, and go back to your Caffe Lattes, your dope, your raiders games, and your totallt middle class way of living.
you are bunch of phonies. most of you wuld never last in the street for five minutes.
and who, would be the first person you would call when one of these criminals turns on YOU.
A cop, you double-tounged losers.
your little fantasy world id a lie, you are a lie, and this thread, supporting any black man arrested by police is a lie.
now, guess what race I am?

This entire thread is total bullshit. right. the cops are the criminals.. right. you are all revolutionaries fighting the evil empire. right. all the black people here are downtrodeen. right. all the white people here are "down with the cause" right.
shut the fuck up, and go back to your Caffe Lattes, your dope, your raiders games, and your totallt middle class way of living.
you are bunch of phonies. most of you wuld never last in the street for five minutes.
and who, would be the first person you would call when one of these criminals turns on YOU.
A cop, you double-tounged losers.
your little fantasy world id a lie, you are a lie, and this thread, supporting any black man arrested by police is a lie.
now, guess what race I am?

Nope not all the people are downtrodden where did you get that idea? did you assume? because everybody knows what happens when you
ASS U ME.

Yes most people wouldnt last in the street for five minutes, I perosnally would last more like 20 minutes before I got cold and went inside.

And who would the first person I called if a criminal turned on me? The crazy guy down the street who gets into fights for no reason.

Double tongues losers? wouldnt a second tongue be usefull?

Well I think your reptillian? Purple? Blue? I give up what race are you?