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3/13 SF March for Palestinians
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 5:30 p.m. at Powell & Market, SF, there is a rally for the Palestinians, followed by a march to Union Square and North Beach. Israel is rounding up Palestinian men ages 15 to 45, putting hoods and blindfolds over their heads and eyes, and putting their wrists in chains. They are murdering the Palestinians at the rate of 20 a day, all with our tax dollars, all so Israel can defend US oil interests. If you want housing, healthcare, etc., you must be there and protest the war machine as we cannot have guns and butter.
On Wednesday, March 13, 2002 at 5:30 p.m., at Powell & Market, SF, there is a rally for the Palestinians, followed by a march to Union Square and North Beach. Israel is rounding up Palestinian men ages 15 to 45, putting hoods and blindfolds over their heads and eyes, and putting their wrists in chains. They are murdering the Palestinians at the rate of 20 a day, all with our tax dollars, all so Israel can defend US oil interests. If you want housing, healthcare, etc., you must be there and protest the war machine as we cannot have guns and butter.
Please also stop voting for the Democrat-Republicans as both of those capitalist parties are 100% pro-Israel, at all levels of government. The colonial carnage being perpetrated by the US puppet government, Israel, is no different from what the Nazis perpetrated against the Jewish people and no different from what the US perpetrated against the Native Americans.
Italy had 100,000 people marching throughout Italy this past weekend, March 9-10, 2002. The San Francisco Bay Area is famous for its peace demonstrations, some of which have reached in the hundreds of thousands, as during the Vietnam War and against the Persian Gulf Massacre in 1991. Our decades of peace demonstrations earned us the closure of all the military bases in the area, which has vastly improved the politics of this area in being favor of peace. We pride ourselves in being an area, and in particular, a "city that knows how."
OK EVERYONE: DO WE KNOW HOW TO MARCH TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THE PALESTINIANS? BE THERE, MARCH 13, 2002.
Also, we are having a HUGE PEACE MARCH on April 20, 2002 in San Francisco and Washington D.C. The planning meeting for this peace march in San Francisco is
March 12, 2002 at 7 p.m. at the Women's Building, 18th and Valencia (near 16th ST BART), San Francisco. See International Action Center website for updates at: http://www.iacenter.org/
From: http://www.iacenter.org
EMERGENCY SILENT CANDLE-LIGHT VIGIL & MARCH OPPOSING ISRAELI AGRESSION ON PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS & MEDICAL WORKERS
TIME/DATE: March 13, 2002 at 5:30 pm
WHERE: Corner of Powell and Market(near Powell BART)
WHAT: Silent Candle-Light Vigil and March through Union Square and North Beach
We will carry signs, candles, flowers, and informational flyers. Please wear medical coats/scrubs with target signs attached, traditional Palestinian clothes, or black.
Questions? Email adcsf [at] hotmail.com . Please pass the word (email this announcement to others--see below) and attend.
Please also stop voting for the Democrat-Republicans as both of those capitalist parties are 100% pro-Israel, at all levels of government. The colonial carnage being perpetrated by the US puppet government, Israel, is no different from what the Nazis perpetrated against the Jewish people and no different from what the US perpetrated against the Native Americans.
Italy had 100,000 people marching throughout Italy this past weekend, March 9-10, 2002. The San Francisco Bay Area is famous for its peace demonstrations, some of which have reached in the hundreds of thousands, as during the Vietnam War and against the Persian Gulf Massacre in 1991. Our decades of peace demonstrations earned us the closure of all the military bases in the area, which has vastly improved the politics of this area in being favor of peace. We pride ourselves in being an area, and in particular, a "city that knows how."
OK EVERYONE: DO WE KNOW HOW TO MARCH TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THE PALESTINIANS? BE THERE, MARCH 13, 2002.
Also, we are having a HUGE PEACE MARCH on April 20, 2002 in San Francisco and Washington D.C. The planning meeting for this peace march in San Francisco is
March 12, 2002 at 7 p.m. at the Women's Building, 18th and Valencia (near 16th ST BART), San Francisco. See International Action Center website for updates at: http://www.iacenter.org/
From: http://www.iacenter.org
EMERGENCY SILENT CANDLE-LIGHT VIGIL & MARCH OPPOSING ISRAELI AGRESSION ON PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS & MEDICAL WORKERS
TIME/DATE: March 13, 2002 at 5:30 pm
WHERE: Corner of Powell and Market(near Powell BART)
WHAT: Silent Candle-Light Vigil and March through Union Square and North Beach
We will carry signs, candles, flowers, and informational flyers. Please wear medical coats/scrubs with target signs attached, traditional Palestinian clothes, or black.
Questions? Email adcsf [at] hotmail.com . Please pass the word (email this announcement to others--see below) and attend.
For more information:
http://www.iacenter.org
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americans, this is your chance. show that you give a fuck about the rest of the world.
The problem with generalizations is that it takes you down the path of historical debates which ultimately are meaningless. Why didnt the Jews fight back? How is the situation similar? And how is it different? The Jews only had 5, 6, 7 years in their concentration camps? The Palestinians have had GENERATIONS in their concentration camps, and that is why they have built their own homes there (even when the Israeli's demolish them again and again). And that is why they are able to mount an effective resistance from their concentration camps.
Do you really think that the Jews would have suffered 50 years of being in those concentration camps without doing everything possible to get out? This is a common stereotype, I think, that Jews are the innocent victims and Palestinians are the crazed murderers.
If you want to see Jewish people killing innocent civilians, turn on your TV. Because it has been happening now for about 5 decades on an almost daily basis.
Jewish civilians were deliberately targeted for extermination in the camps. If the IDF wanted to indiscrimately kill civilans a lot more than 1,400 would have died in the past year and a half. Millions were murdered in the Nazi camps. In the past 18 months of the Intifada--an armed conflict--1,400 Palestinians have died. This is supposed to be a "Holocaust?" Hindu mobs killed 500 Muslims in less than a week. Is this "genocide" as well. The Jews were forced to work to produce war materiel for the Nazis. Are Palestinians forced to do the same for Israelis?
You write, "The Palestinians have had GENERATIONS in their concentration camps, and that is why they have built their own homes there..."
Wrong again. The reason they are living in camps is because their land was confiscated from them. They don't live there because GENERATIONS have made their homes there. They live there because they are forced to live there.
"Do you really think that the Jews would have suffered 50 years of being in those concentration camps without doing everything possible to get out? This is a common stereotype, I think, that Jews are the innocent victims and Palestinians are the crazed murderers."
You forgot a key element, arms. The Palestinans/PLO were supported by the USSR for years. Who would have supplied arms to Jews in your hypothetical situation? The US? Nope. We turned boatloads of Jews back to Europe. UK? Doubt it. USSR? Don't think so.
The right-wing of the Israeli state would certainly like to do that. Unfortunately, they realize that they would suffer severe repercussions from an armed resistance movement. The difference is that fascist racist states have realized that "low intensity" attrition is a much more palatable form of genocide. Don't fall for it, steve.
"Wrong again. The reason they are living in camps is because their land was confiscated from them. They don't live there because GENERATIONS have made their homes there. They live there because they are forced to live there."
What the hell are you talking about? The Palestinians have built up the refugee camps that they were originally shoved into, because they have had the time (generations) to do so. That's my point. I don't know what your point is besides incomprehensibly trying to say that I am wrong.
"Who would have supplied arms to Jews in your hypothetical situation? The US? Nope."
Ummmmm... in fact, the US provided military aid to the Jews and Zionists who were in concentration camps, assisted them in invading and seizing land, and for the last 50 years have guaranteed their military superiority in keeping these lands. So what the fuck are you talking about?
*** actually, the US was not a major benefactor of israel in arms or money for the first part of Israel's existence. So what are you talking about?
When? 1930s? 1940s? I know in the 1930s the US was turning boatloads of Jews back to Europe to face death. Was this towards the end of the War?
As far as your comment about my statement being "incomprehensible" all I did was critique what you wrote. I didn't add anything. You wrote:
"The Palestinians have had GENERATIONS in their concentration camps, and that is why they have built their own homes there"
This sentence implies that the reason the Palestinians have built their homes in concentration camps is because they have had generations growing up in them. You can get mad at me but that's the way the sentence reads.
So how is this not comparable to the Nazi holocaust? Or the native american holocaust? Or the African holocaust?
The entire state of Israel is a disgrace and those who support it are accessories to murder.
PLEASE GO TO THIS DEMONSTRATION, AND SHOW THE MURDEROUS, EVIL JEWS WE MEAN BUSINESS!
Joseph Farah , Between the lines
2000 WorldNetDaily.com
This is a copy from another source
I've been quiet since Israel erupted in fighting spurred by disputes over the Temple Mount.
Until now, I haven't even bothered to say, "See, I told you so." But I can't resist any longer. I feel compelled to remind you of the column I wrote just a couple weeks before the latest uprising. Yeah, folks, I predicted it. That's OK. Hold your applause.
After all, I wish I had been wrong. More than 80 people have been killed since the current fighting in and around Jerusalem began. And for what?
If you believe what you read in most news sources, Palestinians want a homeland and Muslims want control over sites they consider holy. Simple, right?
Well, as an Arab-American journalist who has spent some time in the Middle East dodging more than my share of rocks and mortar shells, I've got to tell you that these are just phony excuses for the rioting, trouble-making and land-grabbing.
Isn't it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, there was no serious movement for a Palestinian homeland?
"Well, Farah," you might say, "that was before the Israelis seized the West Bank and Old Jerusalem."
That's true. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. I can't help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.
The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.
Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.
There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.
But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.
What about Islam's holy sites? There are none in Jerusalem.
Shocked? You should be. I don't expect you will ever hear this brutal truth from anyone else in the international media. It's just not politically correct.
I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem represent Islam's third most holy sites."
Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem.
So how did Jerusalem become the third holiest site of Islam? Muslims today cite a vague passage in the Koran, the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night Journey." It relates that in a dream or a vision Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred temple to the temple that is most remote, whose precinct we have blessed, that we might show him our signs. ..." In the seventh century, some Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem. And that's as close as Islam's connection with Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.
The latest round of violence in Israel erupted when Likud Party leader Ariel Sharon tried to visit the Temple Mount, the foundation of the Temple built by Solomon. It is the holiest site for Jews. Sharon and his entourage were met with stones and threats. I know what it's like. I've been there. Can you imagine what it is like for Jews to be threatened, stoned and physically kept out of the holiest site in Judaism?
So what's the solution to the Middle East mayhem? Well, frankly, I don't think there is a man-made solution to the violence. But, if there is one, it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will only lead to more chaos. Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by overwhelming historical and archaeological evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes and wants gives diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad name.