Flashpoints Radio Fri Sept 14, Dennis Bernstein interview w Noam Chomsky

Friday, Sept 14, 2001 - Start Audio
--- with: Noam Chomsky || Francis Boyle || Michael Franti || Peace Action
-00:00 Dennis Bernstein: The drum of war grows stronger every day, George Bush promises to rid the world of evil... w Noam Chomsky: It was an awesome terrorist atrocity.. Any expression of horror is completely justified.. a new experience for the West.. the history of the West is that we do things to others, they don\'t do them to us.. the first attack on the territory of the U.S since 1812, Pearl Harbor, the Japanese attacked a colony of the U.S... do these kind of things to others, they don\'t do them to us... Dennis: Bush will rid the world of evil? Chomsky: the attacks on Tuesday were a gift to the extremists of all sides.. some of Bin Laden\'s associates are praying for a (extrememly harsh) U.S. reaction.. in the U.S. they want to ram through.. even using it end the capital gains tax.. take the appointment of Negroponti today, the guy is a major criminal (*discussion).. a week ago there would have been plenty of opposition. Dennis: Netanyehu? Chomsky: Israel has been quite frank and open about it.. this is a window of opportunity that the Israeli army... a crushing blow to Palestinians.. who is going to care if a couple hundred of them get murdered.. Dennis: what is some of the history of U.S. retaliating? Chomsky: the last time 1998 they retaliated toward Osama Bin Laden.. the pharmecutical company in Sudan.. probably 1,000\'s if not 10,000\'s of deaths.. who cares? it\'s just a phrase.. that\'s the sort of thing that *we* do.. (discussion of \'old\' U.S. ally, Saddam Hussein).. the last ten years of retaliation has devastated.. has strengthen Saddam Hussein, devastated the populations.. that\'s \'retailiation\' against the civilians.. about the discotethe bombing.. Dennis: a new attack on Iraq? Chomsky: Chomsky: not unlikely that there is some level of state involvement.. a very sophisticated operation.. *we* attack whom we feel like attacking.. advantage of being a super power.. Dennis: this stronger hold on the Middle East on crucial resources.. Chomsky: talks about mobilizing populations by fear.. Dennis: this does seem particularly ominous.. Chomsky: to turn the population into sheep who will follow any order..
-18:00 Dennis Bernstein w Professor Francis Boyle of Illinois University School of Law,: ... this could become extremely dangerous.. [a truly frightening discussion, i cannot review it].. no limitations in here at all, totally up to President Bush what he wants to do.. Pres Johnson used the Gulf of Tonkin Res and the (false) reason behind it.. used that Resolution to escalate into putting a half million men in South Vietnam.. it\'s a blank check.. Dennis: about your appearance on Fox last night? Prof Boyle: I\'m afraid it may get alot worse for us (progressives).. Ariel Sharon would love to... We could see a regional war over there.. very serious consequences.. a very dangerous situation.. [we need to defuse it]
-26:00 Noelle Hanrahan w Michael Franti and Spearpoint (music break) .. it seems all so connected.. we think of this incident as being an isolated thing, but like with Mumia.. the militarization that\'s taken place around the world.. feel the pain, feel the sadness.. act from a place of humanity.. don\'t let it get us down.. stay human really encapselated that.. about professional wrestling... about music.. we all feel the same way, we can bring about change.. Precito Park off Ceasar Chavez.. a number of other bands, and we\'re looking for more musicians, artists.. take a step forward and speak out!.. reason, dissent, and passion.. Sunday 2:00 TO 4:00 PM AT PRECITA PARK IN BERNAL HEIGHTS BETWEEN FOLSOM AND ALABAMA ONE BLOCK NORTH OF CESAR CHARVEZ NO MORE TAKING THE LIVES OF OTHER PEOPLE
-36:30 music break: Spearpoint: Will You Remember Me?
-39:00 Noelle w Medea Benjamin: we are not alone, we can unify, and we can grow.. about the fear that people in the Muslim community feel..
-45:00 Dennis: w Roni of Peace Action, about attacks on people of foreign origin.. 30-40% drop in sales at Arab owned stores.. worry and concern by Arab Americans about their loved ones who worked at the WTC or the Pentagon, and lost their lives.. and worry about State sponsored terrorism.. terrorism is attacking a civilian population in order to get their government to change its policy.. the . > does that by the last tenb years war againts IRaq.. this resolution is truly scarey.. discussion of history and . Dennis: thank you, that wraps it up for another edition of flashpoints.. contact info
-53:37 End today\'s show.. today\'s review by john lionheart

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