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Cockfighters Respond To Recent Attention.
Cockfighters are not shy when it comes time to defend their actions of cruelty to animals.
COCKFIGHTERS SPEAKOUT IN DEFENCE OF THEIR CRUELTY TO
ANIMALS.
Oakland-12/26/00
By Lynda Carson
Over the Christmas Holiday,the Breeders/Cockfighters of this area have received some exposure so that people may be aware that they exist in the bay Area community...
The Bulletin Board that the Cockers use (cockfighters)
was also listed for people to leave them a message.
The following messages below are real/true to life responces given as a reply from the world of cockers.
These same messages and more can be found at the
Pitmaster Bulletin Board. **********************************************
http://members2.boardhost.com/PitMasterBB/msg/4950.html
******************************************************
To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..
Posted by Edwin on 12/26/2000, 3:55 pm
206.169.243.139
Hey!
I always knew that you people monitored this board, but I didn\'t know it was this close. I was wrong...Yep you heard right, I said I was wrong. In your own way, you yourselves have the warrior instinct, it\'s just that you didn\'t know it. By coming to this board you have shown me that you at the very least have enough of this instinct to attempt to make a stand on what you believe in.
Bravo.
But he way in which you conduct yourselves does nothing but give me hope. I used to get into arguments with other, and I have used the tactics of degrading remarks and insults to prove my point...WHEN I WAS 8! LOL! Ok, ok...sorry about that, I couldn\'t help myself.
Anyway, as I was saying. Good for you guys. You have felt a little of what we as cockers admire so much in our fowl.
I am PROUD to say that I am a Christian. I wear a cross everyday of my life to remind me of the supreme sacrifice that my Lord and Savior has given me. I am not a perfect person, in fact, I am very, VERY faltered. Be it as it may, never the less I am very well established in my beliefs. The things I believe in may be different from yours,(obviously eh squire?) but the fact remains that I come here to this site daily to share in those beliefs with others like me.
You are going to get allot of negative remarks to you posts. It is to be expected. If I went to an ARA board and announced that I am a cocker, and that I thought that you people were all a bunch of tree hugging bunny lovers, I\'d expect that kind of reaction. After all, you people are very passionate about your so called \"cause\". I can understand that.
But this is my sport. My passion. And I have worked hard preserving what I believe in. My fellow cockers have done the same, and if they respond to you in a negative way, well, it\'s not like you didn\'t know it was coming.
I don\'t wish Cancer on you people,(that one actually made me laugh out loud!) or any other ill fate. You believe in what you believe. You have shown some gameness...but the level in which you have displayed it only stregnthens our position. Do what you feel you must, say what you think needs to be said, this is, after all, a public Forum. And although your view will not be popular here,(Ya think??) your talent for making fools of yourselves is. Ok, another cheap shot, I admit. But it\'s true guys. Common. You\'re not gonna sway anyone here. I think it\'ll be better for all involved if you just stuck to your own discussion boards for support. Which brings up a question...Is this some kind of initiation for the ARA? The reason I ask, is every once in awhile a bunch of you log on and start stuff up...Just wondering.
Got a little side tracked there. Anyway, wouldn\'t it feel better to be around people who supported you? Silly question right?
Well gang, now you can go back and report to the \"group\" that you did your good deed for the day. I hope you guys pass \"Initiation\".....
Because if you guys are all they\'re recruiting we\'re in good shape! LOL!
Have a great day Guys, and thanks for the entertainment.
Edwin
Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!
Posted by SEAN\"C\" on 12/26/2000, 5:09 pm
205.188.196.22
Don\'r try to change us,you will lose!!! We here are Friends,Fellow Cockers and Countrymen & Women w/ Strong Family Values and a love for Gamefowl.If you don\'t like it fine!I happen too.I\'ve been raising birds since I was 11yrs.Old,Thats 23yrs.And will for the next 23+yrs.!!!Merle Haggard Said:If You Don\'t Like It,Leave It!!!Where were you when I was Freezing my Butt off in BERLIN,And the CZECH.Border?More than likley in Bed or Burning the Flag in Protest!!!But I was Serving Our Country,Fighting for Our Freedom!!!I\'m Going to Go tend the Birds, Your Wasting My Time!!!P.S. My Girlfriend Died in the Sping of 1997 from CANCER!!!And I would\'nt even wish that Hell on You!!!....\"SEAN CRANDALL\"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOUND OFF SOLDIERS !!!!!!!
Posted by RB on 12/26/2000, 6:16 pm , in reply to \"Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!\"
152.163.197.193
SEAN , thank you for your service ! and i am deeply sorry about your girlfreind ! i have lost close family to it , and know just how you feel . WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ! YOU BUNNY LUV\'N TREE HUG\'N TOFO TURKEY EAT\'N SOB\'S !
FIAOOS !!
ROBERT
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Responses:
Rock On Sean!!
Posted by chickenchaser on 12/26/2000, 5:42 pm , in reply to \"Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!\"
216.172.110.18
Guess who\'s on your side? Thanks for serving our country. I\'ll write ya later. -Chickenchaser
what stupidity!!!
Posted by Don.S on 12/26/2000, 4:06 pm
63.71.4.76
we all i hope the new year starts off better than it\'s ending.
first of all we dont go to the animal rights sites if they have one .i dont know i dont go looking for it.and then we have people who down other prople ,for what? there is enough violance in this world as it is ,why start anymore.
i my self thought this was a sport like any other such as foot ball baseball soccor and yes even gambling at the casino\'s .and to think of all the bull fights where they slater a bull .my self im out to raise my cocks and hope for the best in the pit and make new friends in the process.if i wanted to fight with people i\'d still be in the marines. so please lets get off the new year a little better than this one is ending with all the people fighting with each other.im not trying to be dominant or anything ,but hopes people one day will just let others alone .
yfis
Don.S
Re: To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..
Posted by Bill/eaglemt on 12/26/2000, 6:28 pm , in reply to \"To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..\"
209.250.9.67
Exellent points Edwin. It\'s kinda funny that these attempts to disrupt the board only bring us closer together if anything and are mostly just humorus(at least to me). Keep em Crowin..
Re: Bill/eaglemt -Edwin & Friends!!!!
Posted by SEAN\"C\" on 12/26/2000, 7:59 pm , in reply to \"Re: To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..\"
205.188.200.34
KINDA\' MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD DOES\'NT IT!!!I GUESS THAT\'S WHAT THEY MEEN BY EXTENDED FAMILY!!!BROTHER\'S IN ARMS!!!(AND SISTA\'S)YFIS,SEAN\"C\"
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by hoto on 12/26/2000, 2:45 pm , in reply to \"Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
64.123.14.156
Animal cruelty laws can\'t be equated with quaint/outdated laws from 100 years ago. And you know it, you disingenuous jackass.
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by Gamefowl Fan on 12/26/2000, 4:42 pm , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
205.188.193.163
Disingenuous jackass? Maybe. Self deluded, holier than thou, Nazi, Fascist or member of the Lunatic Fringe like you?
NEVER!
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by Gamefowl Fan on 12/26/2000, 3:33 am , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
205.188.193.187
Given the period of history, the culture, customs, the prevalence and popularity of cockfighting throughout the ancient world, why yes, yes I can.
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by hoto on 12/26/2000, 2:47 pm , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
64.123.14.156
If you *really* believe that your line of reasoning is valid, then you must also believe that Jesus frequented prostitutes, and maybe owned a slave or two. These things were prevalent in his time, too.
------------------------------------------------------
Above posted messages are from the last 24 hours.
Below is the listing for the Cockers Bulletin Board.
******************************************************
http://members2.boardhost.com/PitMasterBB/msg/4950.html
ANIMALS.
Oakland-12/26/00
By Lynda Carson
Over the Christmas Holiday,the Breeders/Cockfighters of this area have received some exposure so that people may be aware that they exist in the bay Area community...
The Bulletin Board that the Cockers use (cockfighters)
was also listed for people to leave them a message.
The following messages below are real/true to life responces given as a reply from the world of cockers.
These same messages and more can be found at the
Pitmaster Bulletin Board. **********************************************
http://members2.boardhost.com/PitMasterBB/msg/4950.html
******************************************************
To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..
Posted by Edwin on 12/26/2000, 3:55 pm
206.169.243.139
Hey!
I always knew that you people monitored this board, but I didn\'t know it was this close. I was wrong...Yep you heard right, I said I was wrong. In your own way, you yourselves have the warrior instinct, it\'s just that you didn\'t know it. By coming to this board you have shown me that you at the very least have enough of this instinct to attempt to make a stand on what you believe in.
Bravo.
But he way in which you conduct yourselves does nothing but give me hope. I used to get into arguments with other, and I have used the tactics of degrading remarks and insults to prove my point...WHEN I WAS 8! LOL! Ok, ok...sorry about that, I couldn\'t help myself.
Anyway, as I was saying. Good for you guys. You have felt a little of what we as cockers admire so much in our fowl.
I am PROUD to say that I am a Christian. I wear a cross everyday of my life to remind me of the supreme sacrifice that my Lord and Savior has given me. I am not a perfect person, in fact, I am very, VERY faltered. Be it as it may, never the less I am very well established in my beliefs. The things I believe in may be different from yours,(obviously eh squire?) but the fact remains that I come here to this site daily to share in those beliefs with others like me.
You are going to get allot of negative remarks to you posts. It is to be expected. If I went to an ARA board and announced that I am a cocker, and that I thought that you people were all a bunch of tree hugging bunny lovers, I\'d expect that kind of reaction. After all, you people are very passionate about your so called \"cause\". I can understand that.
But this is my sport. My passion. And I have worked hard preserving what I believe in. My fellow cockers have done the same, and if they respond to you in a negative way, well, it\'s not like you didn\'t know it was coming.
I don\'t wish Cancer on you people,(that one actually made me laugh out loud!) or any other ill fate. You believe in what you believe. You have shown some gameness...but the level in which you have displayed it only stregnthens our position. Do what you feel you must, say what you think needs to be said, this is, after all, a public Forum. And although your view will not be popular here,(Ya think??) your talent for making fools of yourselves is. Ok, another cheap shot, I admit. But it\'s true guys. Common. You\'re not gonna sway anyone here. I think it\'ll be better for all involved if you just stuck to your own discussion boards for support. Which brings up a question...Is this some kind of initiation for the ARA? The reason I ask, is every once in awhile a bunch of you log on and start stuff up...Just wondering.
Got a little side tracked there. Anyway, wouldn\'t it feel better to be around people who supported you? Silly question right?
Well gang, now you can go back and report to the \"group\" that you did your good deed for the day. I hope you guys pass \"Initiation\".....
Because if you guys are all they\'re recruiting we\'re in good shape! LOL!
Have a great day Guys, and thanks for the entertainment.
Edwin
Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!
Posted by SEAN\"C\" on 12/26/2000, 5:09 pm
205.188.196.22
Don\'r try to change us,you will lose!!! We here are Friends,Fellow Cockers and Countrymen & Women w/ Strong Family Values and a love for Gamefowl.If you don\'t like it fine!I happen too.I\'ve been raising birds since I was 11yrs.Old,Thats 23yrs.And will for the next 23+yrs.!!!Merle Haggard Said:If You Don\'t Like It,Leave It!!!Where were you when I was Freezing my Butt off in BERLIN,And the CZECH.Border?More than likley in Bed or Burning the Flag in Protest!!!But I was Serving Our Country,Fighting for Our Freedom!!!I\'m Going to Go tend the Birds, Your Wasting My Time!!!P.S. My Girlfriend Died in the Sping of 1997 from CANCER!!!And I would\'nt even wish that Hell on You!!!....\"SEAN CRANDALL\"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
SOUND OFF SOLDIERS !!!!!!!
Posted by RB on 12/26/2000, 6:16 pm , in reply to \"Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!\"
152.163.197.193
SEAN , thank you for your service ! and i am deeply sorry about your girlfreind ! i have lost close family to it , and know just how you feel . WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ! YOU BUNNY LUV\'N TREE HUG\'N TOFO TURKEY EAT\'N SOB\'S !
FIAOOS !!
ROBERT
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Responses:
Rock On Sean!!
Posted by chickenchaser on 12/26/2000, 5:42 pm , in reply to \"Irritated with your Dribble!!!ANTI-GAMEFOWL!!!!!\"
216.172.110.18
Guess who\'s on your side? Thanks for serving our country. I\'ll write ya later. -Chickenchaser
what stupidity!!!
Posted by Don.S on 12/26/2000, 4:06 pm
63.71.4.76
we all i hope the new year starts off better than it\'s ending.
first of all we dont go to the animal rights sites if they have one .i dont know i dont go looking for it.and then we have people who down other prople ,for what? there is enough violance in this world as it is ,why start anymore.
i my self thought this was a sport like any other such as foot ball baseball soccor and yes even gambling at the casino\'s .and to think of all the bull fights where they slater a bull .my self im out to raise my cocks and hope for the best in the pit and make new friends in the process.if i wanted to fight with people i\'d still be in the marines. so please lets get off the new year a little better than this one is ending with all the people fighting with each other.im not trying to be dominant or anything ,but hopes people one day will just let others alone .
yfis
Don.S
Re: To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..
Posted by Bill/eaglemt on 12/26/2000, 6:28 pm , in reply to \"To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..\"
209.250.9.67
Exellent points Edwin. It\'s kinda funny that these attempts to disrupt the board only bring us closer together if anything and are mostly just humorus(at least to me). Keep em Crowin..
Re: Bill/eaglemt -Edwin & Friends!!!!
Posted by SEAN\"C\" on 12/26/2000, 7:59 pm , in reply to \"Re: To Guardian Angel, Squire, and Hoto..\"
205.188.200.34
KINDA\' MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD DOES\'NT IT!!!I GUESS THAT\'S WHAT THEY MEEN BY EXTENDED FAMILY!!!BROTHER\'S IN ARMS!!!(AND SISTA\'S)YFIS,SEAN\"C\"
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by hoto on 12/26/2000, 2:45 pm , in reply to \"Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
64.123.14.156
Animal cruelty laws can\'t be equated with quaint/outdated laws from 100 years ago. And you know it, you disingenuous jackass.
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by Gamefowl Fan on 12/26/2000, 4:42 pm , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
205.188.193.163
Disingenuous jackass? Maybe. Self deluded, holier than thou, Nazi, Fascist or member of the Lunatic Fringe like you?
NEVER!
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by Gamefowl Fan on 12/26/2000, 3:33 am , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
205.188.193.187
Given the period of history, the culture, customs, the prevalence and popularity of cockfighting throughout the ancient world, why yes, yes I can.
Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!
Posted by hoto on 12/26/2000, 2:47 pm , in reply to \"Re: Just because it\'s law, doesn\'t require it make sense!\"
64.123.14.156
If you *really* believe that your line of reasoning is valid, then you must also believe that Jesus frequented prostitutes, and maybe owned a slave or two. These things were prevalent in his time, too.
------------------------------------------------------
Above posted messages are from the last 24 hours.
Below is the listing for the Cockers Bulletin Board.
******************************************************
http://members2.boardhost.com/PitMasterBB/msg/4950.html
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