n16- police violence

well we kicked their asses friday...i think they felt they owed us something....i find it funny that it was a legal (all protest are legal) march, and we were on a side walk...against police brutality...and what happens?....hahaha police brutality. THIS IS THE STATE. and they are doing what they are supposed to do....

I think this video shows once again that you can't talk with the police. They won't listen and you only handicap your options when you attempt to talk to them or shame them. Either get the hell out of the situation, or put up a fight.

We have a right to protest on the streets. For those of you who believe in such things, that right is guaranteed by the U.S. constitution.

For an intifada in America's heartland,

Chuck0

I was in the march and the police really had no good reason to arrest people and this video shows how bad they where. I guess in the conservative town of Cincinnati where I have lived my whole life the constitution truly does not matter

i got to be flattened against the building in some sort of slightly recessed area of the wall with the wrench. heh heh. the mace did not taste good nor did my mucus membrane enjoy the prickly pain. thank you for the medics! somehow i lucked out wearing glasses and i don't know, but i didn't get it in my eyes unlike a guy to my left and a girl in front of me.

it certainly was amusing to hear them demand us to disperse after completely surrounding us and brandishing and using mace and gas on us. boy, those cops certainly are a bunch of jokesters! hahahaha... and later, when i and 3 other people walked through fountain square north to get to the car and get the hell out of cincy, getting stopped by a formation of around 14 cops, being told that i had been told earlier to take off my mask (umm..i think maybe i myself am in a better position to know what i have been told or not told) and having my purple bandana with vinegar on it grabbed by the cop, and then being told to march south even though in order for us to "go home" as we were told, we needed to go north. we were to go south until we "hit the water" and that if we started heading west, we would be arrested. oh, but i'm sorry, this no longer has to do directly with the don't beat me march. i will post my story later. to put it (shit, right now i'm listening to npr and they just announced that a man was shot and framed by the LA police 2 years ago) shortly, we were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for complying with everything we were told to do and put in jail for 2 nights. for a fourth degree misdemeanor.

please feel free to email me. i have more outrageous and infuriating details to share.

I attended the march on friday and both the marches on saterday. Friday, Was excellent. None of the people I was with were arrested and we had a great time, even though some of us didnt have gas masks when they started shooting tear gas, and My roommate was hit in the leg by a bean bag or rubber bullet, "I'm not sure which", but it left a nice size bruse. We did nothing to provok being shot at, other than walking down the street. On Saterday however, we were almost arrested durring the pig show when we steped onto the Public Road. After that we got somthing to eat, and went out to the Dont Beat Me march, we started marching, and almost instintly we were surrounded by police. My friends were all peper sprayed,"although most ducked" we then were told to dispurse and started to when more cops came around the corner, We started going the other way. We were then surrounded again. The cops had us all sit down and the chief gave an inspiring speach. I particularly like his responce to the question Why are we being arrested and what for. His answer was Ughhhhh. You have to dispurse or be arrested, We were dispursing when we were surrounded.

We then were allowed to go up the road, as we walked up towards the car. As we proceeded "clearing our lungs and sinuses of tear gas" We noticed that other police had formed a line about 50 yard ahead of us effectivly blocking off the sidewalk, there were 7 of us that all road together, violating the 4 or less rule someone came up with, so we crossed the street in order to avoid the police and get out of cincy. They ran after us and sited us all for Jay Walking, They insisted that a friend turn off his video camera, He Refused. Then about 1 min. later a police officer stated "IS this A Gun Or a Camera sir" My buddy replied "How can you think that is a gun sir" "Your telling Me you Think a camera is a gun No wonder 2 people have died at the polices hand in the last 2 weeks" He then shut up. The officer couldnt figure out how to turn off the camera "duh the power button" and sat it down facing the opisite direction. We were then sited and allowed to dispurse one at a time. Thats 46 dollars each for avoiding the police for fear of arrest or being peper sprayed again.

We continued towards our car walking in 3's as not to get harrassed again. Although when we were about 20 yards from the van, we were spotlighted by 2 unmarked cars. they then swerved rather recklessly toward us. they then told us to sit up against a wall. The officer in charge yelled at us and called us the scum of the earth, dirty and we were all hipocrites, he then proceeded to call us liars and asked why it took us an hour to get from the march to our car. We showed him our tickets and he proceeded to call us bums and said that he didnt even think we could pay for our Jay walking tickets. I sould have told him That each of us probably make more than he does, but I just kept my mouth shut for fear of being arrested. we had to provide them with our ID's or be arrested so we complied reluctantly and were allowed to leave while being told "Get in your car and poplute the enviroment, we responded by saying "We car pool Asshole. We had to hit a bar on the way home.

I work for a legal research co. and have researched over the past few days the reasoning behind the 4 or less in a group rule and the arrests of innocent people protesting on the sidewalk. It appears the city Declared a State of Emergency, although they didnt stop large groups of people leaving he ball games and walking around the city, not did they stop large groups of people leaving the mall and wondering around, The Cincinnati Police singled out protestors for Our Political and Economic beliefs. This is in violation of both Federal, State and certin Local Laws. This was a flagrent violation of each no violent protestors civil liberties. During an emergency, they are able to tell individuals not to be on the street EX. Snow emergency, but not to single out individuals deamed undesirable by the police. I will keep you posted as we "friends and I" are going to file both federal and state lawsuits against the city of Cincinnati and the Cincinnati Pd, probably when we go down to pay our jaywalking tickets. I would like to see what would have been said if they had peper sprayed a group leaving the ball game who didnt dispurse. Stregnth and solidarity.

i'm so glad to see that someone got that on video, if for no other reason than to offer up as evidence to our friends and others of the need for further anti police brutality actions in cincinnati. i was also one of the people rounded up and arrested after the incident on video...anyone who wants more details can email me. also, anyone who has more video or photos, please email me and let me know...i would love to see them. a special hello to any of the others i was in jail with.
keep fighting the good fight,
dan

ps...does anyone know what has happened with john? is he still in jail? i'm trying to write an article, and need all the info i can assemble

Things have just been awful here. I was back of the don't beat me march, when we were surrounded and assaulted. I heard someone say, "They beating and macing people." My companion decided to leave cuz he was certain we were being trapped in the block between 9th and Broadway and Sycamore. I tried to venture down an alley to the left and was blocked. My wise companion immediately led us North of the Justice Center. I tried to cut back down to see what was going on. But a bean bag gunned pig thug immediately turned ready to apprehend us. We quickly crossed the street making certain not to jaywalk. Veturing down 9th west we saw some pep-sprayed medics booking the hell out of there. We waited for another group to come too. The medics mentioned a chemical being used which was causing nausea. Women exposed were having spontaneous menstruations the next day. This chemical is illegal, and carcinogenic. All exposed should contact Physicians for Social Responsibility (http://www.psr.org). Info on chemical can be obtained at prorev.com/nwo2.html and http://www.brasscheck.com/seattle.html. Trust me; the shit's hitting the fan. Some one said that they asked a cop for directions and he said he didn' t know- he was from Philly. I have cool photos. See them here!

This event further justifies your reasons for protesting in the first place. The police, there to protect the people, are standing in the way of revolutions that the people believe should be enacted. The police are not protecting the people in situations like this, they are protecting the system from change.

I can't make the video work on my computer, but what happened at the ha ha "anti-police brutality march" only proved our point all too well. Please get this out to the people, anyone who sees it, the masses need to know the truth. If they're scare tactics they use on us were supposed to deter protests, they're wrong. Incidents like this only fuel the fire that we're burning, exposing corruption at all levels.

Ultimate Peace through Solidarity,
One Love,
David

Hello my name is Aaron and I work for the television show REAL TV, we are very interested in finding some video of this incidence!! If you or anyone you know has any please contact me at your earliest convenience, thank you, Aaron

I was there. In fact if you watch the video I'm the girl in the skirt who was pulled from the sidewalk and arrested. The night before I was arrested I sat down and wrote. I wrote down questions that I felt deperately needed answers if the revolution that I saw was so needed was ever to occur. Friday during the protests I saw so much division among us. We fought each other. We all know that the minute we begin to do so we will lose and yet how do you resolve differences which go so deep. The question of non violence versus violence is a deeply personal and important question and yet we must never let even such an important question get in the way of the power we have in our unity. I want to share what I wrote and I invite anybody to share their answers with me. Cincinnati was a building block. The cops that arrested me have no idea what is in store for them. I will never stop, I will never accept the loss of even the smallest freedom. I know their tactics now, I know their fear and I know the power that we had when we took to the streets and declared them to be ours. The next protest that you're at look for me because I plan to be there. These were my questions and thoughts after friday's protest and the night before I was arrested.

How many people does it take to start a revolution? Is it one, 100, 1000, or a million? Is it possible to start a revolution non-violently? Is it possible to win a revolution non-violently? How can the police be used against citizens who are committing no crimes? Why don’t other people care?

I don’t know. Too easy, I think I might know. I think it takes a million individuals. A million people who truly believe that it only takes one to start a revolution. So maybe my answer is that it takes one person to start a revolution. I’m going to start one! I know that “the system” is us! While the term system or society has come to mean an abstract object or thing that is against us, it is not! We are the system and while I admit that in a way it does take on a life of it’s own, it cannot exist without the cooperation of the very thing which makes it; us. And so it makes sense to me that if you can make people see that something is wrong you can make them withdraw the cooperation. I firmly believe that you will never make people see anything if violence is your only means of communicating. All you need is a good leader, a great one who knows the tactics of non-violent action. Thing Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. Now there were two revolutions! In any case I also believe one can win non-violently.
No cooperation= No system.

Cops are able to be used against us because we break rules. Not always laws but definitely rules. Everybody seems to know these rules; they all seem to play by them. Somewhere along the line we all recognized that these rules were pretty bullshit and dumb, but most people haven’t. And so we dress differently and we talk loudly and we don’t give a damn what people think about us and this scares everybody. These rules were placed in effect by society, by “the system”. When we break the rules we show that the system doesn’t always work. Sometimes school doesn’t install the rules in us properly and sometimes people just know that something is wrong, but they break the rules when they don’t accept that it “just is “. The cops can use force against us because the system will always fight to maintain itself. The status quo is the toughest opponent anyone will ever fight. We break the rules, we show that the system does fail and so they send cops in riot gear to protect the system and say we id commit crimes. When we don’t stop, they can’t win. Because they still failed.

People don’t care because they recognize us as the rule breakers. They’re afraid too. If the system isn’t foolproof than someone lied. They’d rather believe we commit crimes. They choose not to see and instead believe the lies they already know as true. They won’t care until you can show them that the rules don’t really exist and that breaking them is not bad. You can’t do it by trying to scare them.

Não será a brutalidade policial que nos fará calar!!
AÇÃO DIRETA!
"Avante a bandeira,
revolucionária,
Que levará o povo à libertação!!