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U.S. Continues Campaign of Death and Destruction

by uk's independent
Although it isnt on CNN anymore, the U.S. Government continues to murder and destroy in the name of those who died on September 11th. Remember this next time when you ask, "why???"
Carpet-bombing US Air Force warplanes were blamed yesterday for the deaths of about 150 unarmed Afghan civilians in a densely populated frontline town caught up in the battle for the Taliban redoubt of Kunduz.

Terrified refugees fleeing the town of Khanabad yesterday told The Independent that American planes had bombed the area a few miles from Kunduz daily since Thursday, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the buildings they were bombing were civilian homes. All day yesterday, huge plumes of smoke rose from the hills on the front lines near the Taliban's last northern stronghold as B-52 bombers continued to drop their loads of bombs.

"I saw 20 dead children on the streets," said Zumeray, one of the refugees. "Forty people were killed yesterday alone. I saw it with my own eyes. Some of them were burned by the bombs, others were crushed by the walls and roofs of their houses when they collapsed from the blast."

The relentless US pounding appears to have persuaded the Taliban forces to surrender, provided the Northern Alliance fighters pledge not to kill the mostly Arab and Pakistani fighters among them. The Taliban offer was conditional on UN representatives monitoring the surrender, they said.
by fairness in reporting
Includes this quote, conveniently left off by the obviously antiwar biased poster:

"It was God who brought this on Khanabad," said Farhod. "The people there have had to suffer so much. We had so many problems when the Taliban came, and now this.

"This is the work of the Taliban," said Zumeray, insisting that he was not angry with the Americans. "The Taliban were so cruel, and God brought the Americans to help us."


to read the whole article go to this link: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=105629
by magic cure
just like the article provides, you have shown the magic cure to over a hundred deaths! and all of those folks blame the taliban, based on this one person's interactions with a western reporter! it all wraps up, just like a sitcom, huh? these are not the first casualties of american bombs, and it doesnt look like they will be the last. you either understand people's resentment of the united states, or you brush it off as some hyped leftist anti-war thing.

i said it before and i'll say it again. americans are stupid.
by Danny W Thomas
Stupid crazy about Freedom. Liberty. Justice. Security. Buck up whinny antiwar Mo-ron.
by Debate is good

Since this article has been mutilated it shouldn't be the subject of discussion. However, the fact that it was mutilated is important.

I think an important point here is that posts to Indy Media can possibly be shortened for space constraints but should never be mutilated in a way that obscures or (in this case) changes, a fundimental element of the article. This is arguing under false pretenses.

No matter what the point of view of the poster, articles, quotes, and figures should always be clipped and used in context.


by oh yeah
Um, article mutilation? The original URL is given, and the article is truncated to show emphasis. Of course corporate media will go on to show how it is *really* the Taliban who are at fault for the american bombs falling. I wasn't interested in the opinion that was added to the article. I was interested in relaying the fact that more innocent Afghans are dying, since it doesn't appear to be in the news anywhere else. The continued deaths of starving Afghans and Afghans under U.S. bombs is almost universally blacked out everywhere. Why? Why can't we find *one* picture? Is it because whoever puts those pictures out will get bombed like Al-Jazeera?
by Debate is good
If that was your intention then it would may have been better to have added the comments you just made to the original. Do you think they would be weaker if you didn't cut away statements that were relevant to the issue at hand but did not support it?


Giving the URL is good but it's like hiding key qualifiers deep in footnotes on a large research paper.

The fact is, your point - and an important one - is now lost (to me at least) because an out of context article was used as the basis.

by please
Deep footnotes? Come on. It takes one second to click a link. If that's all it takes for you not to pay attention to what someone is saying, that sounds like your problem, not mine.
by aaron
Today's LA Times has a front page story entitled "Dying A Way Of Life For Afghan Civilians" (or some turn of phrase with exactly the same meaning) which minimizes the deaths of many many Afghan civilians by US bombs by, at the top of the piece, quoting as representative of Afghan opinion someone who blames the Taliban for the deaths. Assuming these quotes aren't simply fabricated, this is straight propaganda designed to make Americans, like Danny Thomas and others, feel completely comfortable killing huge numbers of civilians. Can we imagine a report on American casualities in which someone who minimizes the dead in this manner is treated as credible? Not to mention, allowed to frame the report itself? I think not.
Those who think that this phony war on terror is going to make Americans safer should think for a second about the mosque that was bombed by the US in Kandahar on the first day of Ramadan. How many Muslims did that offend? How many does it take to retaliate? Put that in your pipe and smoke it danny boy.
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