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PAKISTANI makes Gitmo claim

by news4queers (SaveFreedom [at] yahoogroups.com)
Western women interrogators exposing their bodies to male Muslim prisoners, to exploit the men's nudophobia, breastphobia, etc.? NOT likely. But one jihadi apparently thinks Pakistan public will believe his wild charge. [ + Pakistani rapists may be re-arrested ]
Pakistani jihadist claims that
female interrogators stripped themselves,
to shame male Muslim prisoners

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[ Commentary by TBL:
In Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, U.S. authorities have stripped male Muslim prisoners naked,
sometimes when visible to Western women, in order to torture the
prisoners psychologically
(by exploiting their cultural and religious erotophobia, nudophobia, machismo, etc.).

There have also been some claims by ex-prisoners, not proven, that female interrogators have partially undressed, perhaps by removing their own shirts and appearing in a brassiere, in order to shame and destabilize Muslim men.

Here's an extreme form of this claim, made recently
by Pakistani ex-prisoner Khalil-ur Rahman, 21,
a self-professed jihadi.

Frankly, I don't believe his story.
(After all, since he's avowedly willing to kill or die for his cause,
why would he be unwilling to lie for his cause?)

So what could be newsworthy about presumably false propaganda?

For me, it's amazing that this jihadi apparently believes
that his fellow Pakistanis will buy his bizarre story.
This suggests that the Pakistani public, or part of it,
may already have wildly exagerrated prejudices about U.S. women.
And perhaps especially about U.S. military women. ]


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Ex-Gitmo inmates say Quran was desecrated


by ASIF SHAHZAD,
Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, June 28, 2005


(06-28) 04:29 PDT
LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) --


Pakistanis freed from Guantanamo Bay claimed they saw American interrogators throw, tear and stand on copies of Islam's holy book, and one former detainee said naked women sat on prisoners' chests during questioning.

[..... ]

" ..... one of the freed men, Khalil-ur Rahman, 21, from the eastern town of Gujrat,
said he wouldn't hesitate to fight again. "If I get a chance to fight jihad again, I will definitely go.
I will not miss it," he said.


Rahman claimed female interrogators at Guantanamo stripped in front of prisoners
despite pleas for them not to —
echoing allegations leveled by other inmates,
although not by the other five inmates who spoke to AP on Monday.


"Girls would interrogate us.
They would take off their clothes in front of us.
They would make different poses in front of us
and they would sit on our chests," said Rahman.
"This was shameful."


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+ more PAKISTAN news:

Pakistan Supreme Court orders re-arrest of
Muslim gang-rapists
who were punishing a woman
(on orders from male village elders)
for her brother's alleged offense against caste system. *

Please see

http://www.sfgate.com

.......
* [ Alert readers may be saying:
" Nonsense!
The caste system is Hindu, not Muslim. "

Yes,
but in the Indo-Pakistan area,
castism has infected
local cultures of NON-Hindus,
including Muslims and Parsis and Jews,
alas. ]

...........
by link
Here's the URL for the June 28
update
on the long-running Pakistan
rape-as-punishment
case:


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/06/28/international/i014634D22.DTL
by links
NUDOPHOBIA (gymnophobia),

breastphobia (mammaphobia),
phallophobia,
erotophobia, etc. --
IndyBay links, 2004 - 2005:
....
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/09/1697160.php
(Did "nudophobia" cause SF death?,
30 September 2004)
.....
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/10/1697972.php
(More nudophobia in SF's Castro,
05 October 2004)
......
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/11/1704993.php
(FCC airheads create false "videality" of SF,
12 November 2004 )
......................
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/12/1708219.php
(How fascists use nudophobia as a power tool,
03 December 2004 )
...
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1712189.php
( Georgia nudophobes, 1 January 2005 )
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1712695.php
(Nudophobes threaten Hollywood, 4 January 2005)
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1714927.php
(Texas breastphobes vs. mural of topfree Eve, 15 January 2005)
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1715728.php
( Are redstaters nudophobic and homophobic? Green Bay?
19 January 2005 )

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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/01/1716313.php
(Powerful breastphobe quits FCC, 21 January 2005 )
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/02/1723816.php

(Koko faces breastphobia, homophobia, gorillaphobia,
26 February 2005 )

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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/05/1736124.php
( Phallophobia in Laramie, Wyoming,
5 May 2005)

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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/05/1742612.php
( Sacrilege and stripping- "worse than death"?,
27 May 2005 )
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1747079.php

( World Naked Bike Ride 2005,
12 June 2005 )
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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1748971.php

( political nakity meets nudophobia,
22 June 2005 )

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http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1749954.php

( Pakistani jihadi claims women interrogators were naked,
28 June 2005 )

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