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Capitalism & the Disaster of Hydraulic Fracturing ("Fracking")
by John Reimann ( 1999wildcat [at] gmail.com )
Monday Jun 17th, 2013 8:45 PM
Hydraulic fracturing of shale deposits is sweeping the nation and is devastating to the environment. It is coming to California in a big way. Brown and both political parties support it. The major environmental NGO's are helping pave the way also. In Colorado, people are preparing for mass civil disobedience to stop it. Come hear more about what exactly "fracking" is, why it's so devastating, why we cannot count on the major environmental NGO's to stop it and what WE can do about it.

Upcoming meetings on environmental issues. Both meetings are at the Niebyl Proctor Marxist Library, 6501 Telegraph Ave. in Oakland (corner 65 St.)

Thursday, June 20; 7:00 p.m.
Building an ecosocialist movement

Sunday, June 23; 10:00 p.m.
Capitalism and the Disaster of Hydraulic Fracturing ("Fracking")

Flames coming out of the water faucet? Drinking water smelling of chemicals or turned brown? Cancer clusters? Increased birth defects? Air and noise pollution? These are just some of the effects of hydraulic fracturing ("fracking") of shale deposits to get at the natural gas or oil these deposits contain. As the easiest to reach oil deposits dry up, fracking is spreading all around the world, and the results threaten to be disastrous. Far from lessening the emissions of greenhouse gas (due to substituting burning of natural gas for coal), it is increasing these emissions. The process of fracking has stirred up communities from Pennsylvania to Colorado, and now it's headed for California in a big way. The presenter, having recently returned from a visit to "fractivists" in Colorado, and having read widely on the issue, will dispel the industry myths on the subject. We will also discuss how this issue and those surrounding it are a direct manifestation of the crisis of capitalism itself as well as discussing how socialists can involve themselves in the environmental movement. Also included will be a discussion of the role of "Big Green" (the major environmental NGO's) and the mainstream union leadership.
by Mike Novack
Tuesday Jun 18th, 2013 5:14 AM
This is NOT, repeat NOT an argument in favor of capitalism.

BUT (and this is a very big but) you need to make a case to explain why your brand of socialism would be any more protective of the ecosystem as a whole.

Socialism (just by itself) is about the fairness of distribution of the goods of the human economy among all the people. Needs something in addition to bring in concern for the environment. Perhaps exploiting the natural gas resources is the only way to keep industrial civilization going a little longer. That's socialist industrial civilization as well as capitalist industrial civilization. I can see how socialist concerns could prevent the costs from being distributed unfairly among the people but not why socialist concerns (by themselves) would prevent a democratic socialist society from choosing to pay those costs (distributed fairly) in order to maintain the human population in an industrial society.

Being red doesn't make you green.