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New MAC Anti-Police Brutality Poster

by Modesto Anarcho Crew (MAC) (anarcho209[at]yahoo.com)
With the rise of police use of force, beatings, harassment, and killings throughout the valley, we offer up this poster to all proles ready to ride.
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by conscious
Are you kidding???? Yes, it's cool that Tupac spoke out against cops, but most of the time he was rappin' about exploiting women, making money and buying expensive toys... this is your anarchist role-model? A thug rapist?
by Dignified
So who's your suggestion for who the morally pure, virgin mary role model of all anarchists should be? Emma fuckin Goldman can't be on very goddamn poster in the world.
by amaru
tupac interview bout tha bogus rape charge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fiUL5toWZ4
by crudo
Have you actually listened to 2pac's albums and read his lyrics? His first cd is probably one of the most politically charged rap albums of the early 1990's, with a more biting critique than most of Public Enemy's stuff, in my opinion. 2pac's mom was a black panther, but he was also influenced by the street culture around him, and tackled issues such as poverty, drug dealing, and drug addiction.

Also, on the sexism charge, I think that the other person posted a link about the bogus rape charge, and if you listen to 2pac's music, it's pretty clear where he stands. He rapped about being pro-choice, against rape, how much he thought of his mother as a strong black woman for supporting him. He did rap sometimes about sex, and obviously he said some stuff that I don't agree with or that into, but over all, despite being contradictory at times, made it pretty clear his stance. "Much love for my true sistas, far from bitches." "Since a man can't make one, he has not right to tell a woman when and where he can create one." "I could never be a rapist..." and so on.

We choose to use 2pac as an image because he represents a political figure in the proletarian community that people identify with. Hopefully they'll look more into the ideas behind much of his music.
by crudo
Also, a lot of anarchists have said lame shit. Bakunin said dumb shit about Jews. Proudhon said fucked up shit about women. Marx said lame shit about different people.
by antioch arrow
for real though, pac has been a huge inspiration to me since i was 7 years old. i identified with the shit he said so much, it really shaped me into being an anarchist and more importantly put the ghettos i lived in into perspective. i really think the poster is fucking awesome.
by tmoney
I'm concerned about the use of a thugged out image of 2pac for this poster. and NOT Because it's not emma fucking goldman, but because i feel that the MAC as a whole isn't actively working to address and transform systems of racism and white supremacy. So for them to use a black man who is being constructed as hypermasculine and criminal in this poster is problematic and could end up reinforcing racist stereotypes of black men as criminal and violent. Instead, couldn't we strive for true solidarity and see how the prison industrial complex is historically racist, and how black men have been historically defined as criminal by laws in this country, and how pasting a picture of a rapper on a poster DOES NOT mean that your group is achieving any real solidarity with local Black communities. Instead, it seems to me as if you are promoting black criminality. I'm assuming that whoever made this flyer has the light-skinned privilege to walk down the street without being judged by stereotypes about their perceived race as Black. So they probably didn't have to think about what the results of this flyering would be, or how a young black male viewing this flyer might internalize the idea that black men should be violent and criminal against the police. It's easy for someone to put an image on a poster without thinking about the DEEPLY political implications of such an act. It's easy for someone who hasn't been judged by stereotypes about black men to use an image of a black man without thinking twice....

and as far as 2pac and degrading women....check out these lyrics:


"And since we all came from a woman
Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
I wonder why we take from our women
Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
I think it's time to kill for our women
Time to heal our women, be real to our women
And if we don't we'll have a race of babies
That will hate the ladies, that make the babies
And since a man can't make one
He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one
So will the real men get up
I know you're fed up ladies, but keep your head up..."

-Keep your head up, 2pac
by crudo
Isn't it a white supremacist culture the system that says that any black male that is "violent and criminal against the police" a thug?

By those standards isn't everyone from Huey P. Newton to Nat Turner a thug as well? Or Malcolm X?

What's wrong with black men resisting the police anyway? I think these are positive things, and ideals that should be promote among proletarians as a whole, regardless of race.
by therapist
1.please describe what crime you see being commited?
perhaps a violation of arizonas' new racial purity laws.

2."a young black male viewing this flyer might internalize the idea that black men should be violent and criminal against the police."

Just say you think black people are stupid criminal monkeys who tend to break laws when they think tupac is watching. at least then you would be more honest about your true feelings.
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