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Iraq | International

100,000 Sadrists March Against Constitution
by Juan Cole (reposted)
Saturday Aug 27th, 2005 11:09 AM
Thoughts on the Middle East, History, and Religion

100,000 Sadrists March Against Constitution

Reuters reports that Muqtada al-Sadr's supporters rallied in 8 cities on Friday, totaling a hundred thousand demonstrators in all. They chanted against the new constitution, which they characterized as an American-authored document. They also complained about lack of electricity and other services. Al-Sadr's followers rallied in Kufa, Najaf,Baghdad (Sadr City), Nasiriyah, Amarah, Basra and elsewhere.

I saw the demonstrations on al-Jazeera and they were in fact just enormous. I have all along said that I think Muqtada al-Sadr is formidable, that those who underestimate him are making a mistake. But these demonstrations are evidence of a quantum leap in Muqtada's organizational capability. He has never been able to bring out more than 5,000 to 10,000 demonstrators before. It is obvious his group has continued to do underground recruiting and networking while he has been relatively quiet and his Mahdi Army mostly put their guns in the closet. This impressive display suggests that it might well be possible for Muqtada to bring out 2/3s of Maysan Province, where he is very influential, against the constitution.

Al-Zaman/ AFP/ DPA: The situation in Karbala grew tense on Friday after one of the aides of Muqtada al-Sadr was killed and four others were wounded in clashes with the Iraqi police in the Qarshi district of the city, near the shrine of Imam Husain (the martyred grandson of the Prophet).

In the city of Kifl, unknown persons burned down the HQ of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI). SCIRI is a rival to the Sadr movement. Pro-SCIRI crowds in Najaf had recently burned down the office of the Sadr Movement in that city.

In Najaf, the al-Zaman correspondent reports only light movement in the streets, with heavy Iraqi police and army presence. American helicopters circled overhead. The city gates have been completely closed and no one is allowed to enter except funeral processions. The gates of the shrine of Imam Ali (son-in-law of the Prophet) had also been locked.

posted by Juan @ 8/27/2005 06:30:00 AM

Constitution's Fate Unclear

Al-Jazeera early Saturday morning is reporting that some sort of deal has been reached with the Sunni Arabs on the constitution, but the situation is so muddled that I cannot be sure it is a firm agreement. [It was just talk, coming from speaker of the parliament, Hajim al-Hasani. The saga goes on.]

Dexter Filkins and James Glanz of the NYT reported that at the close of business, Iraq time, on Friday, the Shiites and the Kurds had effectively given up on trying to reach a consensus with the Sunni Arab members of the constitution drafting committee. The Shiites and the Kurds have reached compromises with one another, but were unwilling to mollify the Sunni Arabs. The big sticking points were a Sunni Arab demand for an end to the placing of disabilities on former Baath Party members, and the Sunni Arab opposition to allowing regional confederations to form that had an a priori claim on national resources. I continue to be disturbed at the big place the NYT coverage gives to Ahmad Chalabi and his perspectives. If anyone has been discredited, it is he.

As I said in my Salon.com article on Friday, I do not accept the narrative of the unreasonable Sunnis who would never compromise under any circumstances, or who are just dusted-off Baathists, as some Shiites charge. The criteria being proposed for sharing the oil wealth are that a) the recipients have oil wells in their territory; b) that the recipient is traditionally poverty-stricken or c) that the recipient was injured by Baath Party policies. Under these criteria, the Sunni Arabs are 0 for 3. So instead of getting, say, 20 percent of the petroleum revenues as redistributed by the central government, they are being offered 10 percent. Who could accept such a deal?

The Telegraph's Oliver Poole reports from Baghdad that Sunni negotiator Salih Mutlak said, "The Iraqi people have to give their word now and reject the constitution because this constitution is the beginning of the division of the country and the beginning of creating disturbance in the country." He called on Iraqis to reject the constitution at the polls.

Poole also reminds us that the squabbling over the constitution is an inside- the- green- zone issue. What are ordinary Iraqis exercised about? The heat, lack of electricity, gasoline so dirty and substandard that it ruins automobiles.

posted by Juan @ 8/27/2005 06:27:00 AM   

Letter To Juan Cole From An Iraqi
by letter Sunday Aug 28th, 2005 12:34 AM
A Letter from an Iraqi Reader
An acute Iraqi-American observer writes:

' I agree with much of what you wrote in your latest article in Salon.com. However, I think that your genuine good wishes for the iraqi people are superceded by the selfish interest of different groups in Iraq.

Here are a few selfish interests that will play big:

1) Shiites are probably the majority even in Baghdad, or at minimum 50% of the Baghdad population (especially with sadr city's 2 million shiites, and other prominent shiite districts like Sha'ab, Shu'la, Khadhimiya). Almost certainly Baghdad would NOT be included in the shiite federation of the south as envisioned by Al-Hakim and others because then the concept of a federation really doesnt make much sense when you pretty much include all the major cities except for Anbar and provinces to the north. Shiites in Baghdad will not want to be left to being a minority in a "Sunni" federation, and Sunnis in Baghdad will not want to be part of a "shiite" federation. There is a strong possibility then that most shiites in Baghdad would vote AGAINST the constitution over the federalism issue. That would most certainly seal the constitution's fate when combined with votes from Anbar, Sallahudin, and Mosul.

2) You and I might agree that SCIRI is under the thumbs of the mullahs of Iran, but the bottom line is that they do have huge influence in the south. Ironically, in a way it is like the Christian Coalition's over reaching power in US politics. Here you have whackos like Pat Robertson who may not be representative of American Christians in general, but still has influence with the Bush administration. Al-Hakim does NOT represent all shiites, but he does have that kind of influence because he is very well organized in terms of political, social, and security services. While the Christian coalition does not have a militia, they did exploit their superb organizational skills to help bush win the last election. For al-Hakim's supporters, there is no compelling reason for them to give up their selfish interests in the south. So, with regards to your article, I would like to see what you would propose as an incentive for Shiites like al-Hakim to compromise?

3) Baathists....I am all for allowing former Baathists who did not commit major crimes to work in the new Iraqi government, but I think it is quite unreasonable to be forced into letting the baathist party re-establish itself. Baathism was brutal to most Iraqis. For Saleh al-Mutlak to say that the Baathist party is the "best party we ever had" and expect people like me to be sympathetic to him, he has another think coming. When it comes to the Sunnis, they need to get over their feelings that they should be ruling Iraq. In truth, I think most Sunnis simply do not even respect Shiites or Kurds as being worthy of leading iraq. The Sunni view is that Shiites and Kurds did not achieve power independently and are just holding on to the coat-tails of the americans. Why should the Sunnis then take the Shiites seriously. The Sunnis probably think that when America leaves, they can re-assert themselves and rule iraq once again. That is why they are determined to maintain control over the whole of Iraq through a strong central government. That central government will be the vehicle by which they regain their power over the whole of iraq once america is gone. How do you propose to bring them back to reality where they understand that they cannot rule iraq while being less than 20% and not having tanks and helicopters?

4) Iraqis like me are stuck between all these groups. I am religous, but I don't want religion in the constitution. I think federalism is ok as long as it doesnt lead to the break up of Iraq . . . While my wife does wear hijab, I don't want laws in place that force her to. Baathists can go back to work, but I am sickened by people who are heartless and carry the picture of Saddam with pride and forget the suffering he has caused to millions of people. Unfortunately, people with my types of views tend never to be able to hold the same level of influence as the al-Hakim or Sunni Association of Muslim Scholars types. How do you enable moderates to have a stronger say at the table? '

http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/letter-from-iraqi-reader-acute-iraqi.html