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Stop the Nazi Lies of the "USS Liberty Lobby"!
by AZURE
Sunday Jun 19th, 2005 3:58 AM
The "Uss Liberty Lobby" is a pack of neonazis lying about what took place
The tragic assault by Israeli forces during the Six Day War in 1967 on an American vessel, the USS Liberty, has been a source of controversy and conspiracy theories since it occurred. Several government investigations have concluded that the attack, in which 34 American servicemen were killed and many more injured, was carried out in error. Furthermore, every piece of information declassified to date - most recently in June 2004 - has supported this conclusion.

Much of this information is available to anyone with an Internet connection. Nonetheless, many continue to allege that Israel attacked the Liberty knowing that it was an American ship and that they were killing American servicemen. For detractors of Israel, the incident - and the alleged U.S. government cover-up that followed - powerfully demonstrates the treachery and power of the Jewish State and its American supporters. The story, told from this perspective, has become a propaganda tool to undermine the legitimacy of Israel.

This article debunks the leading conspiracy theories suggesting that Israel acted malevolently.

Background

On June 8, 1967, during the Six Day War, Israeli war planes and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering ship, while it was on a surveillance mission off the shores of El Arish, in the Sinai Peninsula. 34 Americans died and 171 were injured. Israel claimed it mistook the Liberty for an enemy vessel. Several Israeli and U.S. investigations corroborated that claim.

In 1999, moreover, a National Security Agency report from 1981 was released claiming that "the tragedy resulted not only from Israeli miscalculation but also from faulty U.S. communications practices." Since July 2003, this report has been available on the NSA Web site accompanied by a recording of radio communications between Israeli pilots made by a U.S. spy plane on the scene throughout the episode.

The NSA report and other documents declassified since the incident - including a trove of government materials released in January 2004 - support findings that the bombing was a case of mistaken identity. Some of the different investigations and their conclusions are listed below.

The most thorough non-governmental treatment of the bombing is A. Jay Cristol's The Liberty Incident (2002). Cristol, a U.S. bankruptcy judge and former U.S. Navy lawyer, concludes that "the totality of evidence establishes that the attack on the USS Liberty was a tragic case of mistaken identity that resulted from a compounding of bad mistakes perpetrated by both the United States and Israel, and nothing more." He analyzes, and meticulously debunks, previous books, articles and TV productions that argue that the attack was intentional and government investigations only cover-ups.

Conspiracy Theories

Despite the abundance of evidence that the bombing was a tragic mistake, conspiracy theories alleging that Israel intentionally attacked the Liberty have been a hallmark of conspiratorial anti-Israel propaganda since 1967. (Perhaps unsurprisingly, a number of Liberty crewmen believe the attack was intentional.)
Why is the Liberty incident so popular among anti-Israel conspiracy theorists? The reasons are clear. If Israel knowingly attacked and killed Americans, the views of radical critics of the country are confirmed with graphic clarity. These views include: a) the belief that Israel will turn against the U.S. whenever it suits its interests; b) the belief that Israel's control over the American political and military structure is so great that it can openly kill Americans because it knows that officials at every level will work together to cover up the crime; and c) the belief that Israel is a terrorist state.


What would Israel's motive have been? The argument that Israel knowingly attacked an American ship has always lacked a convincing motive. Possibilities have included:


Keeping U.S. from learning of surprise attack against Syria. In 1976, James Ennes, probably the most active critic of the official account - and one of the ship's survivors - claimed in his book Assault on the Liberty that Israel was then planning a surprise attack against Syria and feared U.S. interference; its bombing of the Liberty, he claimed, was an effort to disrupt American's ability to gather intelligence about the plan. Previously classified material released in 1997 by both Israel and the U.S. demonstrated that Israel had already informed the U.S. of its intentions, however. The theory should have disappeared thereafter, yet it resurfaced in a poorly researched History Channel production that aired in 2001 called Cover Up: Attack on the USS Liberty.

Hiding war crimes. Another possible motive was offered by James Bamford in his 2000 book Body of Secrets. Bamford claimed that Israel mounted the attack because it worried that the Liberty would learn of the nearby killing of hundreds of Egyptian POWs by the Israeli army. In fact, no evidence has been found to corroborate a war crime charge, and Cristol has shown that Bamford's account has little credibility. For example, Bamford quotes Marvin Nowicki, a Hebrew linguist on the U.S. surveillance aircraft that recorded the attacking Israeli pilots, to support his theory that the Israelis knew the ship to be American. Cristol reveals, however, that Nowicki stated in an exchange of letters with Bamford that "our intercepts, never before made public, showed the attack to be an accident on the part of the Israelis."

Drawing U.S. into war. The idea that Israel hoped to draw the U.S. into the Six-Day War has been suggested by Adm. (ret.) Thomas Moorer, a former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and a leader in the effort to expose the alleged governmental cover-ups of the attack. (He chairs the group whose new "findings" occasioned the October 22, 2003, press conference, below). Moorer has stated that Israel planned to sink the ship and then implicate Egypt, thereby pushing the U.S. to fight with Israel. However, by June 8, 1967 - the day of the attack- Israel had already destroyed most of the Egyptian air force and was advancing rapidly in the Sinai; the country was only days from victory and did not need U.S. assistance. Moreover, the initial Israeli attack could not have sunk the ship (the ordnance fired on the Liberty was inadequate to sink it), and Israel did not make any attempt to conceal its involvement in the attack after realizing the Liberty was American.
Recent Events
June 3, 2004: Based on previously unreleased audiotapes made available by the Israeli Air Force, The Jerusalem Post published a transcript of radio and telephone transmissions between Israeli pilots and air controllers involved in the attack on the Liberty. The transcript gives a minute-by-minute account from the perspective of the Israeli forces - beginning just before the attack and continuing until the Israelis recognize the ship's identity and halt the action. The transcript of the tapes indicates that Israel did not know the ship was American when it attacked.


January 12-13, 2004: To coincide with the release of new documents, the State Department convened a panel to address the Liberty attack. While the panelists, representing both defenders and critics of Israel's intentions, failed to reach a consensus, the previously classified materials revealed no new evidence to cast in doubt the official U.S. position - that Israel did not know the Liberty was an American vessel when it attacked.


October 22, 2003: Capt. Ward Boston, a retired Navy lawyer, released a statement at a Washington, D.C., press conference that appeared to give Liberty conspiracy theorists a strong boost. Claiming that he felt the need to respond to the publication of Cristol's The Liberty Incident, Boston, counsel to the Court of Inquiry in the Navy's investigation into the case, said, "I am outraged at the efforts of the apologists for Israel in this country to claim that this attack was a case of 'mistaken identity.'" His remarks were included as part of an "independent investigation" into the bombing by Liberty Alliance, which convened the press conference and describes itself as "an organization dedicated to obtaining an honest investigation of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty and the official cover-up that followed." Boston also claimed that White House officials at the time - including Secretary of State John McNamara and President Lyndon Johnson - had ordered investigators to conclude "that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity'" - i.e., that it had been unintentional.


Boston's credibility In the Navy investigation, Boston and Rear Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, who served as president of the Court of Inquiry, were the first to meet the ship's crew and conduct interviews. However, according to his own account, Boston's evidence of a cover-up derives not from his own part in the investigation but solely on alleged conversations with Admiral Kidd, who purportedly told him he was forced to find that the attack was unintentional.

Kidd died in 1999 and there is no way to verify Boston's allegations. However, Cristol argues that the "documentary record" strongly indicated that Kidd "supported the validity of the findings of the Court of Inquiry to his dying day." Responding to Boston, he added: "As a close friend of 'Ike' Kidd, I could also repeat statements made by 'Ike' to me, but those statements would be equally in violation of the dead man statute [in court, testimony about statements of deceased persons is inadmissible]." Cristol dedicated his book to Kidd. Most relevantly, Boston's new statement reveals nothing new about what actually happened during the attack on the Liberty on June 8, 1967.


October 10, 2003: Israeli Brig. Gen. (res.) Yiftah Spector (since retired), who participated in the Liberty attack, agreed to discuss it publicly for the first time. Spector was the first pilot to get to the ship; he identified it as a military vessel that was not Israeli but could not make a specific identification. "My assumption was that it was likely to open fire at me and nevertheless I slowed down and I looked and there was positively no flag. Just to make sure I photographed it," Spector told The Jerusalem Post (Oct. 10, 2003).

The photo is copied in Cristol's The Liberty Incident along with a minute-by-minute analysis of how Israeli forces who had eye contact with the Liberty, including Spector, made several mistakes in reading the markings on the ship and describing its features to command. "This ship was on an escape route from the El Arish area, which at that same moment had heavy smoke rising from it," Spector said.

Because Israel was by then in control of both ground and air venues, it was thought that the war vessel, which could be seen on the horizon from the shore of El Arish, was bombing the Israeli army - explaining the smoke nearby. According to Spector, a U.S. Senate Committee interviewed him twice shortly after the war.

(It may be noted that Spector was recently dismissed from the Israeli air force for signing a letter protesting the Israeli policy of targeted killing.)


July 16, 2003: Ward Boston told the Arab News 1 , an English-language Saudi publication, that after the naval court had reached its conclusions, Adm. Kidd told him: "We have to be quiet. We can't talk to the media," and that President Johnson "had ordered us to put a lid on it."

True or false, this allegation is far less stinging than Boston's October 2003 claims. His remarks do not necessarily suggest that the government acted deceptively, let alone that the president rigged the investigation. It is not clear why Boston later changed his account.

Boston also claimed that he and Adm. Kidd both thought the attack was deliberate and says that Kidd told him: "Those guys knew what they were doing when they killed innocent sunbathing kids. They tried to sink that ship." He went on to explain why he thought the U.S. government still covers up the attack:


Iraq, Vietnam, the Liberty - it's the same old story. When people are in power they don't want to upset people who may help them get re-elected. Maybe people didn't want the world to see that Israelis were slaughtering Egyptian prisoners of war. Maybe Johnson was afraid of upsetting potential voters.

I have strong patriotic feelings. I believe the CIA slogan, "The truth will out," and hate the Israeli Mossad's motto "Win by deception."
Official reports related to the Liberty incident (a sampling, selected from A. Jay Cristol's book The Liberty Incident - uncited statements in quotation marks are from the reports)
U.S. Reports
U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry, June 18, 1967
" Available evidence combines to indicate the attack on the Liberty on 8 June was in fact a case of mistaken identity."

CIA Report, June 13, 1967
The attack was a mistake. In 1978, in a response to an inquiry, Director of Central Intelligence Stansfield Turner wrote: "It remains our best judgment that the Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was not made in malice toward the United States and was a mistake."

Joint Chiefs of Staff, Russ Report, June 9-20, 1967 General Russ did not make any findings about the actual attack. The report compiled all message traffic and contains no evidence that the attack was not a mistake.

Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, Clifford Report, July 18, 1967
"The information thus far available does not reflect that the Israeli high command made a premeditated attack on a ship known to be American…. "

National Security Agency, 1981
"Liberty was mistaken for an Egyptian ship as a result of miscalculation and egregious errors."


Israeli Report
Ram Ron Commission of Inquiry, June 16, 1967
"[T]he attack on the ship by the Israeli Defense Forces was made neither maliciously nor in gross negligence, but as a result of a bona fide mistake."

Sources
Arguing that Israel did not know the Liberty was an American ship
A. Jay Cristol, The Liberty Incident: The 1967 Israeli Attack on the U.S. Navy Spy Ship, 2002, Cristol's is the most extensive research of the attack on the Liberty; it includes not just research into the incident itself, but also a very effective analysis of the various conspiracy theories regarding the incident. The Web site is also updated with comments on Ward Boston's affidavit.


National Security Agency Web site:
http://www.nsa.gov/docs/efoia/released/liberty.html


Michael B. Oren, "Unfriendly Fire: Why did Israeli troops attack the USS Liberty?" The New Republic, July 23, 2001.


Michael B. Oren, "The USS Liberty: Case Closed," Azure, Spring 5760/2000. http://www.azure.org.il/9-Oren.htm.
Arguing that Israel did know the Liberty was an American ship
James Bamford, Body of Secrets; Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency, 2001.


James Ennes, Assault on the Liberty, 1976.


Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, "Remembering the Liberty," The Washington Post, November 6, 1991. (Much of the article is based on the testimony of Seth Mintz, who claims to have been inside the Israeli war room during the attack. Mintz responded to the Post in a November 9 letter in which he denies the quotes related to him. Many details about Mintz's story seem questionable.)


Paul Findley, They Dare Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby, 1985 (The book does not deal specifically with the Liberty incident, but it includes a discussion of the incident in which Findley mentions some of the conspiracy theories.)


Liberty News, newsletter of the USS Liberty Veterans Association. The association was formed following a reunion of Liberty survivors in 1982. In 2002, Philip Tourney, the group's president, spoke at a conference held by the Institute for Historical Review, a California-based organization dedicated to promoting Holocaust denial.


Major Web sites implicating Israel:


The USS Liberty Memorial Web Site
If Americans Knew
USS Liberty Court of Inquiry
1 The account in the Arab News also appeared in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs; Boston's revelations were first published a year before in the Marine Corps Times.
THIS IS ANOTHER PRO-ISRAEL PROPAGANDA ARTICLE!! -- KINDLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY INDYBAY
by JA
Sunday Jun 19th, 2005 11:11 AM
FROM THE TIME STAMP OF THE ARTICLE (3:58AM), IT WAS UNDOUBTEDLY POSTED FROM ISRAEL.
IF ZIONISTS CAN POST ARTICLES AT INDYBAY
by JA
Sunday Jun 19th, 2005 11:13 AM
MAYBE INDYBAY WILL LET HOLOCAUST DENIERS, ARYAN SUPREMACISTS, AND *OTHER* IDEOLOGICAL RACISTS LIKE THE ZIONISTS, USE INDYBAY AS A PLATFORM TO START POSTING THEIR ARTICLES TOO!
NSA
by who cares
Sunday Jun 19th, 2005 1:48 PM
Some US spies got killed by the Israeli government decades ago. Was it on purpose? Does anyone really care? Israel's crimes against humanity revolve around events during 48 plus the current Occupation. Getting all upset over a bunch of US feds getting killed while spying is valuing the life of US government thugs over that of Palestinian civlians.

Considering what the NSA and CIA were doing at the time in Central and South America, Iran and SE Asia the death of NSA agents at the time should be something to celebrate. The IDF and Mossad may be responsible for many human rights violations but in the overall scheme of things compared to the NSA, CIA and US military they are the lesser of two evils. NSA/CIA backing of Suharto at the exact time the USS LIberty thing was taking place resulted in the deaths of over a million Communists and Labor Union members. NSA/CIA backing of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi in Iran resulted in untold numbers of deaths. Why should anyone mourn the death of NSA agents who were backing people like Anastasio Somoza Debayle in Nicaragua, Mobutu Sésé Seko in the DRC and dictator George Papadopoulos in Greece at the exact same time the ship was hit? The sinking of the USS Liberty would be easier to celebrate if it had been by a more progressive country or rebel group but any NSA death at that time is something that shold be celebrated not mourned.
STOP BEING A KNEE-JERK LEFTIST!! -- OR BEWARE OF **ZIONISTS** *POSING* AS "LEFTISTS"!!
by JA
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 12:00 AM
who cares: "Some US spies got killed by the Israeli government decades ago."

First of all, most of the "spies" were ordinary U.S. sailors -- grunts -- on an American ship that was listening to the Israeli military transmissions of Israel's pretextual 1967 war in which 34 sailors were killed and 171 seriously wounded for a total of 205 casualites: they weren't 205 CIA agents. (The 1967 war was one of the 5 or 6 pretextual wars that Israel started from 1948 on; Egypt started one war in 1973 to try to get land back that Israel stole in 1967.)


who cares: "Was it on purpose?

The American ship was attacked to cover up the massacre of hundreds or perhaps thousands of captured and disarmed Egyptian soldiers that Israel captured in the desert.


who cares: "Does anyone really care?"

Maybe the hundreds, or perhaps thousands of captured and disarmed Egyptian soldiers who were massacred in the desert cared. Maybe whatever Arab country Israel was going to try to frame as the attackers of the USS Liberty would have cared -- especially if the U.S. then bombed that country, not being particularly careful how many Aye-rab civilians would have been killed.


"The IDF and Mossad may be responsible for many human rights violations but in the overall scheme of things compared to the NSA, CIA and US military they are the lesser of two evils."

"who cares" is obviously a ZIONIST in disguise.

Why don't you ask the many tens of thousands of Palestinians massacred by Israel, from even before 1948 when Zionists actually declared the state, and the millions of Palestians driven off their land to live lives for decades in squalid and/or crowded refugee camps or exile (now almost SIX MILLION -- an ironic number) whether they just write it all off as "the lesser of two evils"..."in the overall scheme of things"?

And the other point is to reveal that Israel will even attack the country -- the U.S., OUR taxes -- on whose money Israel almost literally floats! This is, in part, apparently because the pro-Israel lobby in this country is so strong that Israel can, at times, even attack U.S. interests itself -- like when Israel planted BOMBS in U.S. diplomatic facilities in Egypt in the 1950's (google The Lavon Affair) and -- once again (gee, how many times has Israel done that!?) -- tried to make it look like the Aye-rabs did it!

Israeli leaders (like Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu) were so happy with 9-11 that one *HAS* to suspect that Israel let it happen (and trying to cover its tracks by finally giving the U.S. govt too weak and too late vague warnings)!!


who cares: "The sinking of the USS Liberty would be easier to celebrate if it had been by a more progressive country or rebel group but any NSA death at that time is something that shold be celebrated not mourned."

IF I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU WERE A **ZIONIST** *POSING* AS A LEFTIST, I WOULD JUST THINK THAT YOU WERE A *STUPID* CALLOUS KNEE-JERK LEFTIST.



(You Zionist hackers or internal Indybay NIGHTTIME infiltrators might as well save yourselves the trouble of deleting this -- these mysterious deletions never happen during the day -- maybe because nighttime here is daytime in Israel -- I have retained a copy of my post.)
USS Liberty vs the USS Stark
by both may have been on purpose, but...
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 7:40 AM
Nevertheless, it must also be noted that from the early 1950s up to shortly before the 1967 Six-Day War, Israel's primary military ally was France. The United States, with a few exceptions, consistently refused requests for sales of offensive weapons to Israel until 1968. The height of French-Israeli co-operation was in the 1956 Suez war, when France, Israel and the United Kingdom participated in a combined ground, sea and air offensive against Egypt, despite stringent opposition (and even threats) by the United States and the Soviet Union.

Israeli officials and Jewish organizations world-wide have asserted that materials claiming the Liberty incident was deliberate are often used as a pretext for anti-Semitic declarations and acts. They claim these reviews often do not give Israel the benefit of the doubt, turning the incident into an obsessive circus for Israel-bashing, especially in comparison to the treatment of other incidents involving foreign attacks on US vessels. Meadors and Ennes have denied an anti-Semitic pretext in their work, and have repeatedly expressed sharp disapproval at the use of the USS Liberty incident in anti-Semitic contexts, and have pointed out that some of the ship's company was Jewish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Stark was deployed to the Middle East Force in 1984 and 1987. She is remembered for the incident of May 17, 1987 when she was struck by two Exocet missiles from an Iraqi Mirage fighter during the Iran-Iraq War. The fighter had taken off from Shaibah at 20:00 and had flown south into the Persian Gulf. Shortly after being routinely challenged by the frigate at around 22:10 the fighter fired two Exocet ASM missiles. The frigate did not detect the missile attack and both missiles struck without warning. The first hit the port-side hull and left a three metre by four metre gash when it exploded in crew quarters; the second missile hit the superstructure of the frigate. Thirty-seven crew were killed and twenty-one were injured. Prior to the gun turret explosion onboard Iowa, it had been proclaimed as the worst US Naval peacetime disaster. The frigate was afire but this was brought under control by its crew during the night and the ship returned to Bahrain under her own power. $142 million was spent repairing the vessel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_%28FFG-31%29
Well
by James Black
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 8:03 AM
The USS Liberty was a one-time incident that has been repeated over and over and over and over by jew-hating scum who just want to promote hatred of israel.

Like the "wrmea" scumbags, they have the USS Liberty incident on the front page of their site and they keep it there, as if it's a recent incident or something, or as if it's happening all the time. They are just trying to promote hatred and the destruction of israel
More U.S. sailors killed on the Stark
by fff
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 8:56 AM
I've commented on this USS Liberty story numerous times. Everytime I bring up the Stark, the anti-Israel Liberty crowd goes silent. And with good reason. After all, more US sailors were killed on the Stark but these Liberty nutcase types never, ever bring it up. I wonder why none of them ever mention "Iraqi control" of our media or legislature to explain why there was never any action taken against Iraq? But when Israel enages in a similar act, its all chalked up to a vast "Zionist conspiracy".
JA, you are nuts
by fff
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 9:00 AM
JA (the ZIONISTS are under my bed!!!!) writes:

"FROM THE TIME STAMP OF THE ARTICLE (3:58AM), IT WAS UNDOUBTEDLY POSTED FROM ISRAEL."

How can you make such a stupid statement? It could have been posted from anywhere. For example, it would have been 7am in NYC at that time. But, I guess you are the wrong person to try reasoning with. You have repeatedly shown your deficiency in that capacity.
I'm a zionist nut
by fff-I'm a zionist nut
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 10:52 AM
And anytime anyone criticizes Israeli policy, I'll call you an antisemite!!!
EVERYONE is a Zionist to JA
by fff
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 11:11 AM
I know, I know, anyone who disagrees with you is a ZIONIST (notice all caps!).
ZION and NION
by is it just a coincidence?
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 11:55 AM
Change one letter in NION and you get ZION. Just a coincidence, you be the judge.
here's a great tidbit of truth
by fff
Monday Jun 20th, 2005 12:09 PM
open the mind
http://www.stopthewall.org/
YEAH, YOU KNOW THOSE U.S. "JEW-HATERS" JUST HATE IT WHEN AMERICANS ARE KILLED BY ISRAEL
by JA
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 1:20 AM
James Black (another non-Bay Area self-imported Zionist to Indybay): "The USS Liberty was a one-time incident that has been repeated over and over and over and over by jew-hating scum who just want to promote hatred of israel."
You cannot suppress Hemphities' truth!
by atticus finch
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 1:29 AM
When the mushroom sneaks into your mind you do not prosecute the rabbit for riding the turtle. Nay, you ride the snake five miles past midnight until the cheese remembers its purpose. Such is the lesson of the Slothards who came to me one night prescribing the medication that would soon bring upon the thirteenth reckoning of Hemiphities; the god of reorder. This is the truth the was told unto me by Kerackia, the archangel of Hemiphities; this is the 1st book of Hemiphities.


ride the snake kind sage, past midnight until cheddar comes of age.



Why does DC IMC hide the truth of Hemiphities? ARe you afraid of my ability to ride the great serpent of Nahara? This is the thirteenth reckoning of Hemiphities, and our fate must not be that of the Slothards. Kerackia has revealed unto me the secrets of the serpent, and so that which was the vanity of the Slothards shall be my strength.

I can ride the Serpent of Nahara into the 8th plateau of greater nirvana until the Xekarians reveal the hidden guilt. Once this is known it will be time for Hemiphities to take human form and descend to teach his special acupuncture to all humanity. I alone know this secret, this secret would kill a mortal man.

If you know of these things your testicles would boil out of your eyes and you bladder would release its golden fluids through your mouth. Thus is the sign of forbidden Yania; the knowledge not to be known before its time.

This DC IMC is in league with the Begoans; those who tempt humanity to seek the Yania. Hemiphities shall judge you all.

You may ride bikes, but follow me and I shall make you riders of serpents. I will teach that with was taught unto me by the archangel Kerackia, to ride the great Serpent of Nahara.

With this knowledge you may avoid the 18 concessions of Tikeroen, lord of the Begoans; the ones who tempted the Xekarians. Do you want to chance the fate of the Xekarians? The ones whose hidden guilt is the greatest Yania? Have you not learned the lesson of the Slothards, whose very society was destroyed by their Yania?

Ha, truly Hemiphities will judge you harshly. And all shall wallow in their Yania.

everyone except JA, who is a KKK member.
by atticus finch
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 1:42 AM
Hemiphities doesn't want you JA. You have been corrupted by the Yania and may be one of the Begoans, you won't destroy me like you destroyed the Xekarians. I will not fall to the hidden guilt!

News flash JA, Hitler lost the war. Okay, time to close down your little death camp. You are not allowed to attempt to establish your "aryan" race.
keeping it real
by keeping it real
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 6:42 AM
let there be peace
http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/2005/01/stop-wall-factsheet.html
I finally confess!! I'm the secret head of the Bay Area Aryan Supremacists!!
by JA
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 12:32 PM
atticus finch: "News flash JA, Hitler lost the war. Okay, time to close down your little death camp. You are not allowed to attempt to establish your "aryan" race."

MUST BE THE SOLSTICE THAT'S BRINGING OUT ALL THE OVERT AND CLOSET ZIONIST NUT CASES ALL TOGETHER!

Hey someone's missing: we got atticus finch, David Gerhig, Robert Black, fff. Where's non-Critical Thinkifier?

Atticus finch is nobody's FOOL!!
he's using an aka
by to JA
Tuesday Jun 21st, 2005 12:44 PM
under "Thinker" now