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Israel's 'Mr. TV' assails occupation of West Bank
JERUSALEM: For nearly 40 years, Haim Yavin has been the calm, objective face of Israeli news, the anchor of Channel 1's broadcast since the founding of Israeli television in 1968.
Now 72, and known here as "Mr. TV," Yavin is about to deliver a documentary about Israel's settlements in the West Bank that is pessimistic, angry and intensely personal.
"Since 1967, we have been brutal conquerors, occupiers, suppressing another people," he says in "Yoman Masa," or "Diary of a Journey," which he filmed by himself with a hand-held video camera in the West Bank and Gaza over the past two and a half years. He speaks to settlers, Palestinians and soldiers.
While Israel is planning to pull its 9,000 settlers out of Gaza this summer, Yavin sees no end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, where more than 230,000 Israelis live beyond the 1967 lines, plus another 200,000 or so in East Jerusalem, annexed by Israel after that lightning war in which he fought.
Talking of the missed chances of many governments, both Labor and Likud, to end or reduce the steady occupation of the West Bank, Yavin says astringently: "This merrymaking will never be stopped."
His own employer, the state Channel 1, which Yavin helped found and where he had also been director of television news, chose early on not to televise the documentary.
So Yavin, who has his own company, sold it to Channel 2, a commercial channel. Its license holder, Telad, has lost the franchise to another group, and beginning Tuesday night, for five weeks, it was running Yavin's cri de coeur as a kind of goodbye to Israeli television.
Yavin says he sympathizes with the settlers, but his portrait of them and the security to protect them is harsh.
He films a soldier who complains that the settlers keep pressing him to shoot Palestinian children. When a settler tells him that if the army can keep the peace, "Muhammad" will make the Israelis coffee, Yavin retorts: "I'm not willing to rule another people, not willing for 'Muhammad' to make me coffee."
The more he traveled, the more obsessed he became, he said, with the cycle of "occupation, settlements and this terrible terrorism of the Palestinians, which no explanation can condone and which harms themselves, their cause and the Israelis."
"I call it a Greek tragedy, because I don't see any solution," he said.
"The settlers are so strong. In a way," he continued, "they run the country, or run the agenda of the country. I don't see anyone undoing what they've done" in combination with Israeli governments, which is "an annexation of land that goes against a viable state for the Palestinians."
Much of the international community regards Israel's settlements and annexation of East Jerusalem as illegal, yet Yavin says that many Israelis admire the settlers as the real Zionists and pioneers in a soft age.
"I also have sympathy for them," he said. "They are idealists. But they are wrong, and they are endangering us."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/31/news/jerus.php
"Since 1967, we have been brutal conquerors, occupiers, suppressing another people," he says in "Yoman Masa," or "Diary of a Journey," which he filmed by himself with a hand-held video camera in the West Bank and Gaza over the past two and a half years. He speaks to settlers, Palestinians and soldiers.
While Israel is planning to pull its 9,000 settlers out of Gaza this summer, Yavin sees no end to the Israeli occupation of the West Bank, where more than 230,000 Israelis live beyond the 1967 lines, plus another 200,000 or so in East Jerusalem, annexed by Israel after that lightning war in which he fought.
Talking of the missed chances of many governments, both Labor and Likud, to end or reduce the steady occupation of the West Bank, Yavin says astringently: "This merrymaking will never be stopped."
His own employer, the state Channel 1, which Yavin helped found and where he had also been director of television news, chose early on not to televise the documentary.
So Yavin, who has his own company, sold it to Channel 2, a commercial channel. Its license holder, Telad, has lost the franchise to another group, and beginning Tuesday night, for five weeks, it was running Yavin's cri de coeur as a kind of goodbye to Israeli television.
Yavin says he sympathizes with the settlers, but his portrait of them and the security to protect them is harsh.
He films a soldier who complains that the settlers keep pressing him to shoot Palestinian children. When a settler tells him that if the army can keep the peace, "Muhammad" will make the Israelis coffee, Yavin retorts: "I'm not willing to rule another people, not willing for 'Muhammad' to make me coffee."
The more he traveled, the more obsessed he became, he said, with the cycle of "occupation, settlements and this terrible terrorism of the Palestinians, which no explanation can condone and which harms themselves, their cause and the Israelis."
"I call it a Greek tragedy, because I don't see any solution," he said.
"The settlers are so strong. In a way," he continued, "they run the country, or run the agenda of the country. I don't see anyone undoing what they've done" in combination with Israeli governments, which is "an annexation of land that goes against a viable state for the Palestinians."
Much of the international community regards Israel's settlements and annexation of East Jerusalem as illegal, yet Yavin says that many Israelis admire the settlers as the real Zionists and pioneers in a soft age.
"I also have sympathy for them," he said. "They are idealists. But they are wrong, and they are endangering us."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/05/31/news/jerus.php
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"In the documentary, the picture given is of one-sided coverage that foments controversy, stereotyping the settler community and portraying them in a negative light," wrote Yesha Council chairman Bentzi Lieberman in a letter to the Israel Broadcasting Authority demanding Yavin's dismissal. "It is unacceptable that Haim Yavin will continue to anchor the news of the national station that professes to be objective."
Yavin has said his professional integrity will allow him to go on anchoring Channel 1's nightly "Mabat News Magazine."
Yavin filmed the documentary in the territories over the course of two and a half years, using a small hand-held camera.
"Since 1967 we have been brutal conquerors, occupiers, suppressing another people," Yavin says in "Yoman Masa" ("Diary of a Journey"), which he filmed in the West Bank.
"I cannot really do anything to relieve this misery, other than to document it, so that neither I nor those like me will be able to say that we saw nothing, heard nothing, knew nothing," he says in the film, and in response to a question asserts: "I did not move left. The country moved right."
In the first two films in a series of five, critics have said Yavin portrays the settlers as members of a fanatic, insane, racist, despicable, violent and dangerous sect - more infuriating and despairing than they have ever been seen in an Israeli film.
Channel 1 (the state television station, with which Yavin has been identified for almost 40 years) refused to broadcast the series. Instead, it will be broadcast starting Tuesday as the swan song of Telad on Channel 2: Having failed to win the tender for a renewed franchise, Telad can allow itself take risks.
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/582786.html
For two and a half years,s Yavin wandered the West Bank and the Gaza Strip with a small hand-held camera, which he operated himself, without a technical crew. Here and there he was reviled as the representative of the hostile leftist media, but in general the settlers spoke to him on the assumption that he was their man, and justly so: Until now he was everyone's man. The film he brought back seems intended to salve his conscience: "I cannot really do anything to relieve this misery, other than to document it, so! that neither I nor those like me will be able to say that we saw nothing, heard nothing, knew nothing," he says in the film, and in response to a question asserts: "I did not move left. The country moved right."
He filmed people who waited for hours at checkpoints and says this has no security justification. Settlers who heard from him about a woman who was not allowed to get to a hospital and therefore was forced to give birth at a checkpoint, try to reassure him: If only the Israelis are able to maintain domestic harmony, "Mohammed" will make coffee both for them and for him. Yavin responds: "I am not willing to rule another people, not willing for `Mohammed' to make me coffee." He tells again of the woman who was forced to give birth at a checkpoint and says, "It is not Jewish, what we are doing there."
He believes in withdrawal so that a Palestinian state will be established and peace will come. "That is the only thing I can believe in. Other than that I! have nothing to believe in - only in bloodshed," he tells a female se ttler. His thoughts move to the roots of Zionist existence. When he hears people describe Zionism as an expression of racism and colonialism, he is outraged, of course, he says, but on returning from the West Bank, he asks himself what remains of the "true Zionism," the Zionism of peace and equal rights: the Zionism of the settlements?
This is a good foundation for a discussion of the question of whether there ever was a "true Zionism" that did not dispossess the Arabs of this land. Be that as it may, in the first two films in a series of five, Yavin portrays the settlers as members of a fanatic, insane, racist, despicable, violent and dangerous sect - more infuriating and despairing than they have ever been seen in an Israeli film.
It is no wonder that Channel 1 (the state television station, with which Yavin has been identified for almost 40 years) refused to broadcast the series. Instead, it will be broadcast starting next Tuesday as the swan song of Telad o! n Channel 2: Having failed to win the tender for a renewed franchise, Telad can allow itself to end its term with something real.
A soldier in uniform told Yavin that the Hebron settlers were inciting him to shoot and kill Palestinian children. Activist Noam Federman and his wife tell him on camera that an ultimatum has to be presented to the Arab residents of Hebron: Either they leave the country immediately, or the Israel Air Force will bomb their homes. Not far from their home, Yavin filmed a bit of graffiti on a wall: "Arabs to the crematoria." A Border Policeman, a muscular, tough-looking guy, says in a heavy Russian accent, "I am only following orders, I do what I am told." Yavin asserts: "We simply do not see the Palestinians as human beings."
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You guys know that women in saudi arabia are not allowed to DRIVE CARS, right?
You guys know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS have been slaughtered in Sudan in the last few years, right?
Two wrongs dont make a right, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt also focus on Saudi Arabia. The problem with actvism surrounding Saudi Arabia is that unlike Israel, Saudi Arabia has power over the US (with control of oil) rather than the other way around. To force change in Israel one has to demand an end to US economic and military aid but to force change in Saudi Arabia one has to focus on reducing consumption on oil. I think there is probably more focus on alternative energy on the US left than on Israel but usually it doesnt get worded as a protest against Saudi domestic policies. Another problem with activism surrounding the Saudis is the politics in Saudi Arabia. If calls for reform came form the US it would hurt the reform movement as a being a CIA front group aiming to control oil etc... It doesnt help the reform movement in the regiopn by having it be linked to the US; protests in the region or even L America and Europe would be more productive.
"You guys know that HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS have been slaughtered in Sudan in the last few years, right? "
The war in Iraq has made it almost impossible for pressure from the West to have much of a positive influence in the region outside of aid. Aid in itself wont do much but outside of regional countries taking a more active role, its not obvious what can be done.
The Occupation in the West Bank and Gaza isnt the largest human rights distaster of our times. It is merely one that has gone on for a long time with the tacit support of the US. It is also the conflict that has the largest impact on public opinion in the Middle East, N Africa and beyond. Until Palestinians gain their freedom US aid groups that focus on other distatsers will be loojked on with scepticism by the peopel of the region and the conflict will be abised by other governments to take focus off their own abuses. If you ant to savet he peopel of Darfur, provide more freedom to women in Saudi Arabia or overthrow the monarchs of Kuwait two things must happen. The Palestinians must gain a viable state and the Iraq occupation must end. Once those two things take place, the people of the Middle East can refocus on changing their own governments without the distraction of mass killings by US troops and mass human rights abuses in Israel's occupied territories.
(2.) If “they do it, too” were a valid excuse, Hitler would be off the hook for killing those six million Jews, because Stalin killed six million Ukrainians.
Hmm... most left-wing actviists who focus on Palestine I know are Jewish and the focus isnt because the are self hating but because of an almost "not in our name" sort of feeling raegarding Israel's actions. I'm Jewish but not religious and my being Jewish has little to do with my feelings on the Occupation but for many proPalestinian activists like the many women in Women in Black, members of Jewish Voice for Peace, Barbara Lubin, KPFA's Larry Bensky and Dennis Bernstein etc... a driving motive seems to be having been raised to believ in what Israel was doing and then becoming disillusioned after seeing the real oppression of the Occupation.
They and there cohorts will try and divert attention from thier crimes by....
demonizing the victims and arguing along these lines..
They started it.
So and so did it too.
We warned them.
Killing people saves lives.
We are the victims of all the people we robbed, shot and killed
You only care about the poor and oppressed because you hate me and your a racist.
The people we are destroying are ethicaly, morally and emotionaly inferior to us.
People who commit sucicide dont do it out of desperation they do it because they hate me and thier racists.
Any time I dont have my boots on thier throats and my assault riffle in thier eye I am an innocent bus riding civilan.
We need to take every thing they have because they are using what they have left to try and stop us.
God gave it to us in this book we wrote.
And my favorite is...
They kill puppys.
Warning: if you point to murder and call it murder, theft and call it theft, rape and call it rape, they will try and destroy you.
A victim of genocide asked to justify thier resistance would..
a) not be asked by some one who had witnessed the crime and
b) say in thier defense "what would you do?"
You can't be serious! WWP, ISO, ANSWER, the anarchist scene etc. etc. etc. is "mostly Jewish"? Not sure where you get your statistics from but most Jews in the United States are self-idenified liberals, not leftist extremists.
I live in NYC and I can guarantee that the vast majority of the people in the anti-Israel crowd at the Israel Day Parade on Sunday June 5 will not be Jewish.
http://www.salutetoisrael.com/
Sure there are the NK but they are far and away in the minority. Plus, they aren't leftists even though leftists love to post pictures of them all over the IMCs.
http://www.indybay.org/archives/archive_by_id.php?id=2872&category_id=49
Jewish Voice for Peace has organized many of the proPalestinian protests in the Bay Aea including several of the "Stop Caterpillar" protests
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
Dennis Bernstein is Jewish and does a daily show Flashpoints on KPFA that contains more news from the ISM than any other Bay Aea news broadcast with the possible exception of Free Speach Radio News:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Bernstein
The Middle East Chidren's Alliance is alos a major organizer of Palestinian focused protests in the Bay Area. It is run by Barbara Lubin who is Jewish.
http://www.speakersandartists.org/People/BarbaraLubin.html
Over 50% of the protests and coverage of Palestine in the Bay Area is by Jewish activists and I've never seen the weird groups like "NK" that you mention.
One clear way to tell you know nothing about local activists is your going off about the WWP which is no longer connected with ANSWER (they split about a year ago and the WWP is mainly East Coast now) The ISO has a pretty diverse membership but Im sure many ISO members are Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other backgrounds. In terms of ANSWER itself, Barbara Lubin is a major ANSWER organizer so their leadership isnt entirely nonJewish. Lubin was never WWP as far as I know and isnt associated with the new group that split away form the WWP either.
While its not entirely the case one answer to "why is there so much focus on Israel in the Bay Area?" is because there is a large Jewish and a large Arab population here and both pay atention to whats going on in Israel. RIght-wing Jeiwsh groups take this attention and become proIsrael but many left-wing groups have seen the suffering and become organizers to gain freedom for the Palestinians.
Here is something Starhawk wrote for Tikkun in 2002:
http://www.starhawk.org/activism/activism-writings/israel_palestine/tikkun_magazine.html
“I regard this as a Greek tragedy. I don't see any solution,” Haim Yavin, a founder of Israel's state-run Channel One and its news anchor for 37 years, told The Guardian in an interview published on Wednesday, June1 .
“Since 1967 we have been brutal conquerors, occupiers, suppressing another people that has a claim to this land,” Yavin said in his “Diary of a Journey” film which was aired on Tuesday, May31 .
He not only questions the occupation and the settlements, but the commitment of successive governments, including Ariel Sharon's, to curbing Israel's hunger for land and the expansion of its colonies, the British daily said.
“This merrymaking will never be stopped,” Yavin maintained.
Commenting on the endless suffering of the Palestinian people under the yoke of the Israeli occupation, he said: “I cannot really do anything to relieve this misery, other than to document it, so that neither I nor those like me will be able to say that we saw nothing, heard nothing, knew nothing.”
The five-part documentary marked a dramatic departure by the popularly known “Mr. TV” from a decades-long policy of avoiding personal political commentary.
It is the result of his visits during more than two years to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, carrying his small camera.
He film was broadcast on a commercial channel after Channel One turned it down.
Endangering Israel
Yavin further said that Jewish settlers pose a threat to Israel.
“I have sympathy for the settlers, but I think they are wrong and that they are endangering us,” he said.
In the film, some settlers tell Yavin that the Palestinians must be given a deadline to leave the occupied territories or be forced out.
“Otherwise we should just bomb and kill them,” says one woman.
The Council of Jewish Settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip demanded the72 -year-old anchorman's dismissal from state-owned Israel Television.
The international community and a raft of UN resolutions regard as illegal all Jewish settlements built on occupied Palestinian lands in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
The UN Commission on Human Rights on April 14 condemned Israel’s continued settlement building in the occupied Palestinian territories.
Defying international resolutions, Israel revealed on May16 , plans to build a section of its separation wall to link the largest Maale Adumim settlement in the occupied West Bank to Al-Quds (occupied East Jerusalem).
The controversial barrier has been deemed illegal by the International Court of Justice and the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution demanding Tel Aviv to tear it down and compensate affected Palestinians.
"Horrors"
“My intention was to get the personal feelings of the settlers, of the Palestinians,” Yavin told The Guardian.
Among those filmed by Yavin is an Israeli soldier in Al-Khalil (Hebron) who wonders how his compatriots can remain silent in the face of the “horrors” the army commits, and the settlers who ask him why he is not shooting Palestinian children.
Israeli reservist Erlik Alhanan told IslamOnline.net in 2004 that the number of Israeli reservists who refuse to do their military service in the occupied Palestinian territories was on the rise due to the illegal army practices.
Over the past four years, journalists and world media outlets have joined a chorus of condemnation of the Israeli aggressions on the Palestinians and the authoritarian policy of suppressing freedom of speech and censoring media coverage.
Chief among journalists who criticized Israel is the BBC's world news editor, Jonathan Baker, who said Israel was prepared to take even stronger measures to conceal what was happening in the occupied territories from the outside world.
Israel has further drawn a welter of criticism for targeting journalists in the occupied territories.
In May2003 , award-wining British journalist James Miller breathed his last after being shot in the neck by Israeli troops in Rafah as he was filming demolition of Palestinian houses Israeli bulldozers.
http://islamonline.org/English/News/2005-06/01/article03.shtml
"Anarchists" are retards..
That sue blackwell nutjob is against israel's very existence. SHe's repeatedly called it "illegitimate." Many leftists also feel this way. That's why their views are worthless. They don't want peace with Israel. They want the removal of Israel.
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I doubt many of the proPalestinain Jewish activists working to prevent the wall from being built within the green line or protesting against house demolitions "dont think Israel has the right to exist". The vast majority of American Jews (as well as Israelis) oppose the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and are left of center. Right wing types make a lot of noise and peopel try to confuse the issue by confusing opposition to specific things (the wall, house demolitions, assasinations) with support for the destruction of Israel but once you cut through all the bullshit even the peopel who show up as counterprotesters at proPalestine protests usually dont support having occupied territories where the peopel living there have no real citizenship in any country and no rights in the country ruling over them (usually even the right of center proIsrael types think the occupation shoudl end but have been taught to fear the Arab other so much they are afraid to support peace sicne they think it must be a trick)
The anti-Zionists need Jews in the spotlight so they can say, "see, we're not Anti-Semites, we have Jews in our organization". Its nothing new, there have always been Jewish "leaders" who are willing to sell our people out. Its been happening for thousands of years.
Thankfully, most Americans--both Jews and Gentiles--see through this nonsense. And thankfully, we do not have as horrendous of a history of anti-Semitism in this country as in the European nations. There has certainly been discrimination against Jews historically but we have not faced pogroms or a Holocaust. And, from where most Jews stand, anti-Semitism emanates from the far-right and far-left not from the Republican or Republican parties. This is comforting as it means that the forces of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are politically marginalized in this country.
And it shows...
I think not, just because the jewish people have been slaughtered doesn't give them the right tho slaughter others.
No, but it certainly gives them the right to defend themselves. They can and they will. Israelis are highly motivated! Masha'allah!!!
The Jews who live there can either accept living as equals with the other peoples of Palestine, or they can leave or they can die. Either way, the State of Israel is doomed.
Sounds like Trans Jordan 1948....
We keep talking about People wanting to be free and how it is a good thing and we went to war with Iraq to free the Iraqi People from Saddam, but when the Palestinians try to fight for their land and their freedom we call them terrorists.
Double standards and Hypocrisy will not bring us respect.
And then we ask why do they hate us?
Let the Palestinian People have their State in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza, called for in the Road Map to Peace. and Peace will follow.
Let the Palestinian People have their State in the Whole of the West Bank and Gaza"
The point is Angel my dear, if the Arabs hadn't lost the Six Day War, the "palestinians" would still be under Jordanian and egyptian OCCUPATION, and since they were never considered a separate people, there would be no hope for self determination. They only became "palestinians" when the arab aggressors lost more land and failed to massacre the Jews
Germany lost the war did it not?
Because you cannot punish the young German People for the atrocities that their Grandparents committed.
There are 4 million Palestinians they did not all participate in the 1967 war. They just do not like being Oppressed.
They want their own State where they can be free from land confiscation, home demolitions, destruction of their olive trees, etc etc.
Just like the Germans now have Germany and live in Peace with their neighbors. Palestinians want their tiny state on 22% of the land that is TODAY...Israel, West Bank and Gaza so that they can live in Peace with their Neighbors.
22% of the land for 4,000,000 People (Palestinians)
78% of the land for 5,000,000 People (Israelis)
Who gets the most land per person...do the math...
Want Peace...Be Fair and Just...
Germany lost the war did it not? "
Angel, you're a vicitm of palestinian mythology.
Germany existed BEFORE the war. And guess what, we still OCCUPY Germany!
"Palestine" HAS NEVER existed! Jordan is the closest thing to a "palestinain" state, but unfortunately it's been OCCUPIED by the Hashemites since 1922.
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Only equality can bring justice to Palestine. Only racists argue against equality.
Ah, so you preach hatred against 99.5% of _all_ Americans? Oh, sorry, you only preach hatred against 99.5% of _Jewish_ Americans. My mistake.
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The Jews are A PEOPLE with thousands of years of history, culture, religion and language. A PEOPLE that were kicked all around the world until they re-established a homeland for themselves.
If nessie feels Israel has no right to be a Jewish state that favors Jews, nessie SHOULD also feel China has no right to exist because it favors the CHinese, Korea has no right to exist because it favors Koreans, Italy has no right to exist because it favors Italians, Germany has no right to exist because it favors the Germans, Iran has no right to exist because it favors Muslims, Saudia Arabia has no right to exist because it favors Muslims, Tibet has no right to exist... etc.
If nessie feels that Israel has no right to exist because many Israelis are not original inhabitants of the land from years ago, nessie should also feel that America has no right to exist (making nessie an invader), and Australia has no right to exist, and Jordan has no right to exist, and Brazil has no right to exist, and countless other places have no right to exist.
Scumbag "anti-zionists" like nessie do not spend any time calling for 75% of earth to be "undone." They just rant about israel each day and hold israel to a higher criticial standard than the rest of planet earth, making it easier to demonize the very existence of israel.
Because scumbag anti-zionists like nessie are antisemites.
But in this case, it IS an excuse.
If almost every religious group, ethnic group, etc. on planet earth has the "right" to KEEP the homeland they have established, the israelis certainly have that right, too.
(1.) They don't, not even close.
(2.) But if they did, so what? States do not exist by 'right," but by force of arms.
(3.) Ethnic cleansing is *no one's* right.
YES, THEY DO. SORRY.
(2.) But if they did, so what? States do not exist by 'right," but by force of arms.
ISRAEL HAS SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED THEIR STATE BY FORCE OF ARMS.
(3.) Ethnic cleansing is *no one's* right.
DIDN'T SAY IT WAS.
ISRAEL EXISTS AS FAIRLY AS MOST OTHER COUNTRIES.
ISRAEL HAS SUCCESSFULLY DEFENDED ITS BORDERS, REPEATEDLY.
Bye nessie.
That sounds fine to me, but not the area that has 4,000,000 Palestinian and has a Jewish minority.
People with Common Sense do not want to get rid of Israel.
The People of Israel are just like any other People, most are good and but some are not.
People with Common Sense only want to Free the Palestinians from Israeli Occupation and Oppression.
It is very difficult for People who are under Occupation and Oppression to sit back and just take it and do nothing....
Look at the U.S. It is not afraid to fight for Freedom, is it?
So to have Peace the Palestinian People need to be Free right where they are (The place they now live).
Once the Palestinian People are Free the U.S. and the U.N. have the power to prevent further conflict. Because you no longer have the excuse that the Palestinian People are under Israeli Occupation and Oppression. (Both side are then winners)
1967 is 38 years ago.
There have been wars and things have changed throughout history.
To solve the Israeli/Palestinian conflict you need to look at things the way they are TODAY....not in 1948...not in 1967.
There are "around" 5,000,00 Jews in Israel Proper.
There are "around" 1,200,00 Arabs in Israel Proper.
There are "around" 4,000,000 Palestinians in West Bank and Gaza.
There are "around" 400,000 Jews in West Bank and Gaza.
To have Peace the Road Map to Peace calls for a "Viable" Palestinian State in the West Bank and Gaza.
So to end the tit for tat problem that we all know about, Let us make that Viable Palestinian State now.
The Arabs who do not like living in Israel Proper can then be free to move to Palestine.
The Jews who do not like living in Palestine can then be free to move to Israel.
Forcing People to move is not the answer.
Making the settlements the problem is not the answer.
Hating the Israelis is not the answer.
Hating the Palestinians is not the answer.