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Israel is peaceful

by Ofra Yacobi
I was wrong>
after looking into the subject of zionism I am no longer not liking Zionism but am Pro Israel and Pro Jews,
by Titus
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DELENDA EST JUDAICA!
by Savant
It is interesting that you have learned half the truth Ofra, but noone will commend you until you learn the whole truth.

You cannot separate support for Israel and Jews without supporting Zionist atrocities.

And you get no special dispensation for being a mere child on the quest for truth either. Israeli children just about your age have been torture murering Arabs for over half a century.

As the poster says:

"Israeli war crimes will forever stain US and world Jewry" And that also means you.

by Facts
So who is to blame for the problems of the Mideast? Leaders of Palestinian terrorist groups who send their suicide bombers to blow up women and children, or the leaders of Israel who are merely doing their best to ensure that their people can live without the constant threat of Palestinian terrorism?

The real villains are the Arab terrorists. These terrorists who blow up civilians and children, who want to live in peace.

The real villain is Arafat, who has the power to stop the violence by putting away the leaders of the Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and of every faction that calls for the destruction of Israel. He does not do it ofcourse, because he is no different, because he himself orders terrorist attacks and he himself wants to see Israel destroyed. It is villains like Arafat that the UN conference is supporting. It is Arafat that world leaders embrace, shaking the hand that is still dripping with the blood of innocent women and children.

The world should single out Palestinian terrorist groups, for atrocities that they committed and continue to commit. These terrorists openly flaunt their actions.
They are proud of blowing up teenagers and shoppers and yet very few people outside Israel are calling for their indictment and punishment.
These terrorists are the ones who should be indicted, for they are the real criminals whose guilt is beyond reasonable doubt.

This is what Arafat wants.

Arafat's speech in Sweden in 1996.
Arafat’s speech in front of 40 Arab diplomats in the Grand Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden, on January 30, 1996. Was called "The Impending Collapse of Israel".

"We will take over everything including all of Jerusalem," he declared repeatedly. Arafat's plan has two main components aimed to cause the Jews to abandon Israel. "Within five years we will have six to seven million Arabs living on the West Bank and in Jerusalem. Arafat explained that this will be the beginning of a pressure campaign resulting within a few years in Israel's ultimate destruction. "You understand that we plan to eliminate the State of Israel and establish a purely Palestinian State. We will make life unbearable for Jews by psychological warfare and population explosion; Jews will not want to live among us Arabs!"

On the same day in 1993 on which Yasser Arafat signed the Declaration of
Principles on the White House lawn, he spoke the following words on Jordan TV:
"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."

Faisal Hussein a week before he died did an interview with the Egyptian publication Al-Arabi', June 24, 2001.
Husseini said in the interview that the Intifada "could have been much better, broader, and more significant had we made it clearer to ourselves that the Oslo agreement, or any other agreement, is just a temporary procedure, or just a step towards something bigger.

"We distinguish the strategic, long-term goals from the political-phased goals, which we are compelled to temporarily accept due to international pressure," Husseini said.

"[Palestine], according to the higher strategy, [is] 'from the river to the sea,'" he said referring to a common description of Israel. 'Palestine in its entirety is an Arab land, the land of the Arab nation."

It was Arafat and his colleagues who brought terrorism to world attention, setting in motion the new notion of hijacking and blowing up airplanes in the 1970's. He even did the original four jet explosion trick in the Jordanian Desert in September 1970. Bin Laden was just following the lead of Yasser Terrorfat
by Joe
Israel's children are the target of Middle East terror campaign By Nolan Finley / The Detroit News

The ugly little secret of the Middle East conflict is that a favorite target of Palestinian terrorists are Israeli children, teen-agers and young adults. They are intentionally killing Israel's kids.

The slaughter is carried out by cold-hearted murderers who search for Bar Mitzvahs, pizzeria's, cafe's, teen discos, wedding parties, family restaurants -- any place likely to draw young people -- before touching off their suicide bombs. And it is being done without the world condemnation that such a heinous campaign should provoke.

It is a deliberate and despicable effort to accelerate the demoralization of the Israeli people and force them to accept compromises that may leave the nation far less secure.
"It's a way of killing the future, and of raising the temperature -- what is more painful than the funerals of the young?," says Stewart Schoffman, a father, former New Yorker and columnist with the Jerusalem Report.

Schoffman says he and his fellow Israelis now try to keep their children always within sight and are reluctant to take them to crowded, public places.

There is a clear moral difference between intentionally targeting children for killing and accidentally killing children in a military engagement. The Palestinians wake up, knowing there goal is to kill as many Israeli kids as
possible. While an Israeli wakes up, hoping to kill the Palestinian terrorist that have killed so many Israeli civilians.

It is difficult to understand how Palestinian parents can grieve over children killed by Israeli gunfire, while celebrating the deaths of children they themselves brainwash and turn into human bombs.
The late Golda Meir once said, peace would come, when Arabs love their children more than they love killing Jews.


--"The ugly little secret of the Middle East conflict is that a favorite target of Palestinian terrorists are Israeli children, teen-agers and young adults. They are intentionally killing Israel's kids."

Actually it is the other way around. The occupation forces are intentionally targetting Palestinian children -- like shooting them in the eye, putting them in jails with adult Israeli criminals so that they can be sexually molested, breaking their bones, killing them outright, etc, ad nauseam.

It seems, you can always take Israeli propaganda and reverse it and understand exactly what they are doing.
Detaining Palestinian juvenile detainees with Israeli criminal prisoners often presents life-threatening situations for Palestinian children and results in a number of violations threatening the physical and mental integrity of the juvenile details. Among the most serious violations are:

- Attempted rape of Palestinian children detainees by Israeli criminal prisoners: DCI/PS has documented one case of three Israeli criminal prisoners attempting to rape a Palestinian child detainee.

- Physical abuse: Palestinian children have been attacked and beaten by Israeli criminal prisoners. DCI/PS' lawyer has documented and witnessed the injuries on the bodies of 5 children who have been cut with razors by criminal prisoners. Children have also been scalded with boiling water. In addition, children have been ordered by Israeli criminal prisoners to perform different tasks and have been beaten for refusing to follow these orders.

by Pedophilia.
Is aaron excusing the israeli atrocities against children by bringing up a conspiracy of the democratic left to teach tolerance of the homosexual lifestyle?
aaron, are you equating sex between two consenting adults to the rape of underage minors.
by pedophilia in places of worship?
There should be mainstream media outrage of the pedophilia rampant in israeli correctional facilities against innocent children.
by No more abuse of young adults!
Palestinians should start looking into suing the Jewish correctional facility members.
Catholics garnered much support from the media elite when they went after the priests so why should there be any double standard when Palestinian victims are seeking justice?
by a
aaron.
Do you condemn the Israeli abuse of Kids sexually?
Make no mistake, blaming all Jews is wrong. This is a governmental policy which is used for ethnic cleansing.

It is not "J..ish pedophelia". If you put children in jail with criminals this kind of thing will likely happen no matter what the religion of the criminals.

I don't know if the person that said "J..ish pedophelia" is neonazi or a planter of pro-israeli disinformation, but in case it is real this sort of thing is intolerable. Just as intolerable as aaron's post (which was apparently removed) defending this practice.
BTW, if Palestinians abducted Israeli children and placed them in jail cells along with adult criminals and allowed these criminals to molest the children. And if this was reported by a human rights agency, wouldn't you expect the media to pick this up and report on it.

In fact, I suspect that if it were reversed like this the media would be calling the Palestinians the new Nazis right now.

But since it is Palestinians and not Israelis who are the victims, you hear nothing about it despite the documentation of these crimes by an internationally recognized human rights agency.
by pedophilia
This is aarons' edited remark:
"Why are you bitching about molesting of children? Don't you liberals push for perverts in our schools in America? Aren't you sickies the ones hollering about homophobia? oh, but it's "different" now, eh? hehe

Your argument rings hollow, when they're turned around, as per your suggestion."
by Pedophilia.


Is aaron excusing the israeli atrocities against children by bringing up a conspiracy of the democratic left to teach tolerance of the homosexual lifestyle?
aaron, are you equating sex between two consenting adults to the rape of underage minors.
by a
To which aaron replied:

Consenting? Adults? I'm talking about schoolkids, don't you understand??? Not if you're one of those who approves. Do you, nessie?



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dear hypocrite!
by a • Sunday September 22, 2002 at 06:52 PM



aaron.
Do you condemn the Israeli abuse of Kids sexually?
by ...
Sorry, I wasn't referring to your comment. I absolutely agree with you. There is no comparison between consenting adults doing what they want and Israelis placing Palestinian child prisoners in cells along with Israeli adult criminals. And aaron is despicable for saying what he said.

I was referring to the comment entitled "J..ish pedophilia." This I suspect was planted by a pro-Israeli to sow confusion and change the subject.

I believe that is used to try to discredit human rights reports like this as "anti-Semitic". That is why I am so eager to point these things out. This is my opinion anyway. Some of it may be neonazis as many believe, but I will call it the way I see it.

I wasn't referring to your post though...
by Josh
i am 200 percent with Isreal and America. I am pure america, and i am totally with Isreal. Isreal is doing the right thing protecting there country like we are in America.
by Someone
Funny, the same thing happens in U.S. prisoners. (Rape, homosexuality, torture)

Even among children.

In fact, no country in the world keeps more people behind bars, as a real number and as a percentage of its population as the United States.

Seems that you guys don't care to talk about that.

Because the Americans aren't all JEWS! YUCCCCCKKKK! JEW COOTIES!
by Uthman (uthman121 [at] hotmail.com)
Israel and america are the biggest lunatic terrorists in the whole world
israel is just another word for "occupied territory".
Israel should be thrown out of Palestine since Israel made its state only be cold killing and masacres.
Who are israel, to be killing and massacring people? are they the "pure race" as they believe?
just like the nazis- how ironic

DONT BELIEVE ME?
http://www.ummah.com/inewsletter/massacres/palestine/jenin.htm

click on that and see for yourself
the daily massacres those terrorist and beasts from israel committed
why dont you face your prejudice and look at this site? it isnt islam which is the threat.
It the zionists that are multiplying like bacteria in a state which they think is theirs (NOT)
ISRAEL.....
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