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Did elements of the US government have prior knowledge of, or actively participate in, the 9.11 attacks? If so, to what degree? These are questions worthy of serious investigation. Start researching "what really happened" on 9.11, and you'll find a large body of facts and questions suggesting that the story we have been told by the government and corporate media is in large part a fabrication.
This feature compiles and presents many of these suppositions and counter-evidence. Its purpose is not to draw conclusions, but to investigate the questions that are conspicuously absent in the post-September 11th media -- including, notably, the "progressive" media, both moderate and radical. The leftist intelligentsia, including people who are highly respected, and deservedly so, such as Chomsky, Zinn, Parenti, and publications such as The Nation, Zmag, The Progressive, Mother Jones and others have all avoided any inquiry into the collected evidence. In some cases, have gone so far as to actively marginalize such inquiry. [ Read more ]
In part because of the remarkable lack of investigation into 9.11, and the almost total media blackout of anything other than the accepted story, many people just find it too hard to believe that elements of the government, military, CIA or other intelligence services could or would knowingly allow or instigate such an attack on the citizens of their own country.
Perhaps many people are not aware of how government deception has previously been at the heart of such matters: the burning of the Reichstag, the Gulf of Tonkin, Gulf War, Pearl Harbor, Operation Northwoods. These examples demonstrate that governments have historically been willing and able to fabricate incidents in order to start wars.[ Read more ]
The absence of coverage and investigation of 9.11 is not due to an absence of facts and questions, but rather to an avoidance and cover-up of the evidence. Once one sees this, accepts the frightening notion that elements of the government are quite capable of doing it, and also keeps alert to not getting caught in wanting to find government collusion, then one is ready to ask serious questions of the official story and examine the evidence honestly.
The events of Sept 11th: lack of scrambled jets, Bush's strange behavior, intelligence agencies say they are taken completely by surprise, yet within a few hours Osama bin Ladin is declared the perpetrator, and media response: [ Read more ]
The Official Story: the miraculous indestructible passport, suitcases and letters, fake drivers licenses, suicide notes, Korans and flight manuals, wild night on the town, FBI lists 19, er, 12 hijackers, flight schools and pilot training, Osama videos, and U.S. intelligence says it was clueless: [ Read more ]
What has been left out: financial investing, Bush/bin Ladin ties, Saudi Plane leaves U.S. on Sept 13th, US plans Afghan war in advance, Osama a CIA asset, Anthrax, removal of WTC evidence, Bush/Cheney limiting 9.11 investigation, woman dies in car crash, and other related stories: [ Read more ]
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Please don't post this shit again.
Please keep posting relevant information.
I don't myself subscribe to any particular theory of Who Did It, but I think it's naive to accept the gov't view without questions.
Note to "anti-capitalism sf ": The only other IMC that I could find that has paid attention to these questions in an official way is *this* IMC: check it out at:
http://www.indybay.org/features/antiwar/
The second feature from the bottom lists many of the same sources used in this re-posted portland feature. So, some of "this shit" is already here !!
He/she/it says
"No-one gives a fuck about your baseless, and useless theories. All you're doing is discrediting good IMCs like SF."
Well, thanks for attempting to speak for the rest of us, a/c; but before you try that again, I would suggest that you get up off your ass and actually examine the issue you claim to be so informed about.
The only thing that is "baseless" here is your rather "useless" opinion; although, if you weren't so determined to be an asshole about it, I'd understand your concern about how "conspiracy theories" can discredit a real examination of the issues.
If you have any capacity to actually look at the evidence, I would siuggest you consult both the 140 pg. document called, Sept 11: Unanswered Questions,
located at http://www.geocities.com/malcontentx
and the review of it, which appeared on sf indymedia, Feb 23rd.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/02/116934.php
This document contains over two-hundred references to mostly mainstream publications and online documents. It does not proceed from any theory, but from the hard facts.
As yet, Part 1 comes to no conclusions as to what kind of complicity was involved.... beyond the fact of gross negligence on the part of the President, military, FBI, and others -and that the government and the military have repeatedly lied to cover SOMETHING up....
After absorbing the actual facts of the case, anyone who cannot even contemplate the POSSIBILITY that certain members of the elite had a hand in it is an brainwashed, naive, idiot.
So, Mr/Mrs. "anti-capitalist," I suggest you either take the time to read about the subject you're mouthing-off on, or get used to your lot as a brainwashed goon, and consider a name-change.
Hats off to the Portland indymedia editors for daring to look in the mirror and examine the contructs of our own "left" paradigm.
i think they had no clues as to the specifics of the threat. i believe that during the attack the u.s. military was blind sided. unprepared and unaware the attack would require an immediate response by them. i believe there were other groups of hijackers ready to board planes (here in the u.s.) in what they planned would be as many as eight or ten jets crashing into as many u.s. targets. i do not believe the hijackers didnt know it was a suicide mission. i believe there were as many as three large groups of terrorist in the u.s. and canada. i believe there are no longer any "groups" of terrorists in the "u.s." . i believe osama bin laden has been dead for quite some time now.
i'm nobody. no credentials.
Actually, no "airplanes" ever hit the "twin towers" at all. The "twin towers" were nothing but empty shells that the CIA constructed in 1992 after the first 'attack" on the world trade center.
The "airplanes' that were driven in to them were actually an advanced holographic technology created by the CIA and the Fluxus art group.
See the book "Blowhard: The CIA, LSD, and the Fluxus Movement" by Stephen King ISBN 5528-11111
National Enquirer, Jan 28, 1962
Now we can either accept the government's bullshit, or we can investigat e for ourselves and find the truth.
So which of us is reactionary now?
likewise, the CIA monitors minute by minute the stock market, and was aware of the huge number of put options on American and United.
Put those together, and any dolt can tell something is about to happen, so it is very unlikely that they were unaware as they claim to be.
Likewise, a number of alleged suspects had been under surveillance BEFORE sept 11th, and that is one reason given by the intelligence community itself for 'catching' them so quickly afterwards.
hmmm. . .
something does not compute there. . .
the other thing that sticks in my mind, over and over, are the quotes from the flight school instructors, indicating that the fellows alleged to have flown the planes, were lousy pilots.
these are quotes from the washington post, direct from the mouths of the people who supposedly trained the pilots who flew the planes. This while everyone agrees that the planes had to have been flown by 'crack pilots'. Especially Flight 77 which hit the Pentagon.
This one single point utterly destroys the whole foundation of the 'official story' and it has never been questioned.
Why not?
please, anyone give a rational explanation for this.
many people come forward to declare conspiracy theory, call all such inquiry bunk, and a waste of time
yet i have not heard one solid explanation for some of these very disturbing discrepancies.
i would be quite happy to have a sweeter explanation. . .it is not easy to stare this truth in the face
when it comes right down to it, do you want to seek truth? i am quite disturbed by the lack of integrity shown by the left on this issue. All sorts of clever but empty excuses arise, but not solid rebuttal of the very factual discrepancies in the 'official story'.
whats it going to be? red pill or blue?