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Anti-War[video] VisionTV: Reasonable Doubts: the truth about 9/11-- featuring Mike Ruppert
9/11 Roundtable Reasonable Doubts: Do we know what really happened on September 11th? A special roundtable edition of Mediafile. VisionTV Insight: Mediafile host Barrie Zwicker raised a number of questions – and eyebrows – in a series of controversial commentaries suggesting the official narrative for the events of Sept. 11 was "frankly implausible." Apparently, he wasn’t the only one with serious doubts. Reasonable doubts: The truth about 9/11Watch this RealVideo (53 min 12 sec in length)Description:VisionTV Insight: Mediafile host Barrie Zwicker raised a number of questions – and eyebrows – in a series of controversial commentaries suggesting the official narrative for the events of Sept. 11 was "frankly implausible." Apparently, he wasn’t the only one with serious doubts. The debate broadens in a special hour-long Mediafile roundtable featuring author, lecturer and whistle-blower Michael Ruppert on Thurs., Mar. 14, 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET. Executive producer Rita Deverell moderates, as Ruppert faces a panel including journalist-educator Peter Desbarats, former Conservative Solicitor General Ron Atkey and Phyllis Creighton, a member of the General Synod of the Anglican Church of Canada and a board member of Science For Peace. Ruppert, a former LAPD narcotics investigator who claims to have discovered the CIA trafficking in drugs in 1977, uses government documents, insider books and reports, congressional records and mainstream press reports to further his hypothesis that the American government was warned about the Sept. 11 attacks. The editor and publisher of the From the Wilderness newsletter (a reference to John the Baptist) was among the first to be publicly critical of a number of transparent flaws in the official story presented by the U.S. government. He is now a popular lecturer on the college circuit and he spoke at the University of Toronto earlier this year. Desbarats is the former Dean of Journalism at the University of Western Ontario. He sat on the Commission of Inquiry into the Deployment of Canadian Forces to Somalia and later was appointed as the Maclean Hunter Chair of Communications Ethics at Ryerson University. Ron Atkey, Q.C., was a former minister in the government of Joe Clark. From 1984-89, he was the first chairman of the Security Intelligence Review Committee, the agency responsible for CSIS. Creighton is an ethicist who serves on the Health Canada board on reproductive technologies. She is a council member of the International Peace Bureau, the oldest peace organization in the world. She was a member of the group that produced Just War? Just Peace!, an educational resource for the Anglican and Lutheran churches. VisionTV Insight examines the moral, ethical and spiritual dimensions of current events. The hour-long program is broadcast Tuesdays and Thursdays at 9 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET. As well, VisionTV Mediafile, a half-hour edition airing Mondays at 10:30 p.m. ET, takes an alternative look at mass media. Watch this RealVideo (53 min 12 sec in length.)______________________________________________More info on VisionTV's coverage of crucial questions surrounding the events of 9/11 can be found here.______________________________________________VisionTV: the Pearl Harbour and 9/11 LiesWatch Barrie Zwicker's comments on the 6 month anniversary of 9/11. His comparison of the events of 9/11 and the allowed attack on Pearl Harbour is excellent!!Stream with RealPlayer or download the RealMedia file (4.3megs).______________________________________________The first segment in Barrie Zwicker's commentaries "The Great Deception: What Really Happened on September 11th?" can be viewed with RealPlayer here. |
Thanks
Rich.
Read Chomsky's 9-11 if you want to learn the "truth," not these simpletons.
him to come out and say what he really does
or doesnt know. maybe if you actually listened to what Rupert says you would allow yourself to think.
"Reality" as most people understand it is the ultimate conspiracy. Mike Ruppert is not far out at all. If you want far out, study up about the Nazis, the occult, mind control technologies and the shadow government. We can either face the truth of our existence in all of its aspects, no matter how repugnant, or we can be livestock.
I tell you what I'm gonna do. Support my President and government in this war.
These idiots on this video are opportunists that offer no viable answers and specifically blame no one. Blaming the government is bullshit. Name names. He doesn't. Name who benifited the attacks. He doesn't.
nothing but conjecture and BS heresay.
Nicauragua put in ruins. A slaughter in Panama. KLA drug lords running rampant in Europe.
Think of what is happening in Macedonia. Kosovo. Palestine and on and on. Americans will "do nothing" because we don't care. We don't care because we have been culturally and intellectually labotomized by corporate consumer brainwashing. There was a massive uprising against the WTO in Seattle, but the powers that be made it look like a bunch of out of control acid head anarchists, instead of a police riot. Everything is swallowed whole. We can blame "the media" or the "state of journalism" only so much, because they are really only vendors who ultimately dispense what people demand. The majority of people do not want to know what really happened on 9-11 anymore than they want to know what happened in Florida. As long as our imperial wars remain relatively antiseptic where we can pulverize entire nations and lose only a few dozen troops, people will go along with it as long as they don't have to pay 2 bucks for a gallon of gas. Danny Casolaro, the San Jose Mercury Journal....the truth is out there, indeed, but there simply isn't enough profit in it anymore than there is enough soul left in our dying democracy to demand it. It is not a matter that people can't believe it...they do not want to see it...most rational people know Bush is a spoiled rich boy lacky and a pimp for big oil. Millions are hiding. Just like they did in Germany in the late '30's. I knew 2 non jews who went to the camps for resisting National Socialism in the wake of Cristal Nacht. Who among us has such courage? It think it has to go even farther before it breaks, before people begin to spontaneously take to the streets. But by then it may be too late if it isn't already...hell...it was probably too late in 1939.
Sackless wonder.
I certainly don't see you idiots offering any reasonable solutions. So sit there and froth over how unfair life has been to you, sob to your neighbor about it, and blame the government (for lack of a better and more viable flunky). You're pathetic.
Could somebody send me either the audio or video file of this discussion?
Thanks
Coincidences99 [at] hotmail.com
How dare you spew your libelous drivel and blame him for these attacks. I don't mind you attacking me, but have some respect the victims, the American people (that adamantly support him), and the man himself you fucking lowlife loser.
<But when we stop asking why, or worse, stop allowing people to ask why, or how>
Noone has impeded your freedom of speech. Go ahead, ask why all day long if you like. Obviously you have no children because if you did you wouldn't drone on and on and on about "Why...why...why daddy? why can't I go outside and play? why?" Because I'm the parent and I said so.
At some point you'll have to GROW UP and start answering some of these "why and how" questions for yourself. So noone is saying don't question it, but if you are going to, then be prepared to offer reasonable explanations. Not conjecture and heresay just to stir shit up.
<As for the rest of you soapbox speech>
For Christ's sake end the mindless ranting and get to the point!
State your sources so we can all be as enlightend as you are!
You might think it is BS. That is certainly your choice. But it doesn't mean it is not occurring. You simply have chosen, for whatever narrow-minded reasons - to ignore historical fact and current events. Your ignorance is demonstrated by your foul-mouthed expletives and arrogant viewpoint. Taking such a hard-line position is not only impractical, it is stupid.
Success today is only guaranteed by taking advantage of networking. The power of networking is inproved by realizing that it is a very small world and you never know whom someone you meet might know. It is the person who someone else knows who might be the instrument to your success. So, being so reactionary and rude is a sure-fire way to cut your own throat, so to speak. But, again, it is your choice. Do what you want.
Karl
"The lack of sources doesn't invalidate the facts as they exist. You might think it is BS. That is certainly your choice. But it doesn't mean it is not occurring. Taking such a hard-line position is not only impractical, it is stupid."
Some of us prefer to live our lives based upon facts and not speculation. If you consider that 'hard line' and 'impractible', so be it. To believe something is occuring while having a "lack of sources" is stupid. So, who's taking a hard line?
He then states, "Unfortunately, there are people who have been so brainwashed and dumbed down...", "narrow-minded", "ignorance", "stupid", .... and then goes on to tell us how we shouldn't use "foul-mouthed expletives" or have an "arrogant viewpoint."
"So, being so reactionary and rude is a sure-fire way to cut your own throat, so to speak." Thanks, Karl. You're our example and our hero.
No, but it invalidates the "facts" as they were presented.
<they rise up in defense of the very people/groups involved in cabal's to enslave the world's population.>
Gee this thing runs deeper than I thought. Guess I should open my mind and listen up!
<You might think it is BS. >
Yes. I do.
<But it doesn't mean it is not occurring. You simply have chosen, for whatever narrow-minded reasons - to ignore historical fact and current events. >
no, just conjecture and heresay.
<Your ignorance is demonstrated by your foul-mouthed expletives and arrogant viewpoint.>
Ok. So I'm ignorant, arrogant, foul-mouthed and stupid.
(I know you are but what am I?)
<Success today is only guaranteed by taking advantage of networking. >
I already consider myself successful. A direct result of hard work, and little help from anyone else. But thanks for your advice. I'll take it under consideration.
<So, being so reactionary and rude is a sure-fire way to cut your own throat, so to speak.>
And being a naysaying prophesier of false impending doom is silly.
<But, again, it is your choice.>
No shit, Dick Tracy? Thanks for nothin'.
Oh, by the way, the choice is yours too. Just thought I'd throw that in, maybe it'll help ya out!
Hahahahahahahaha, the choice is mine. Funny. Gotta write that down.
<Chomsky's cushy job at MIT would never permit
him to come out and say what he really does
or doesnt know. maybe if you actually listened to what Rupert says you would allow yourself to think.>
It was when I actually listened to Rupert that I allowed myself to think: "What a psycho this guy is."
As for Chomsky; I'm sure that his cushy job prevents him speaking his mind. After all, being an anarchist anti-imperialist is SO safe and conservative. If he wasn't living under the perpetual threat of censorship, he'd be a Maoist or a Moonie or something equally daring and radical.
So stop questioning the official line as it's parrotted on all the major defense contractor/wall street owned liberal media. Fall in and salute your new globalized order. Sacrifices must be made. Wages will fall but Wall-Mart will always have jobs. And when your governer tells us we need mandatory imunizations, by god do your patriotic duty and get your shot. SACRIFICES WILL BE MADE.
I am inspired by the courage and strenght of guys like Mike Ruppert who take such a public stand against a country and administration, which from my point of view,seems to rule and control its people in a manner which is fastly becoming not dissimilar to those of Nazi German.
People of America - Do your own think.
breath, switch off the computer, get down to the bar, crack open a cold one and WATCH THE GAME, secure in the knowledge that DUBYA LUVSYA!
Besides, these guys don't know beans - especially if they get their info off the internet! Everyone knows we get the straight goods from good ol' Combat News Network, right?
And these guys that insist on writing screeds of stuff - if McDonalds can get it all into a 60 second commercial, then why can't they? I don't have the time to pay attention for any longer than that.
Hey Buddy... I hear ya! You're not the only one going through tough times right now.
Not too ago, I myself heard an outrageous lie from the BBC (the supposedly most credible news source in the world) that the US Government told the governments of Russia, India, Iran that it was actually planning to attack Afghanistan in October 2001 at least three months before 9-11 happened.
Hey, but how far can we trust the Brits and their fag Prime Minister?
Check this lie out for yourself at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1550000/1550366.stm
And then there's that totally untrustworthy SOB Zbigniew Brzezinski, (he was National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter, and still one of the prime foreign policy makers in Washington) who not only claimed that he along with the CIA set up, financed and trained Osama Bin Laden and his holy warriors back in 1979, but wrote a book full of lies and half truths called "The Grand Chessboard" (Basic Books, 1997), in which he says that the US has a "Geo-strategic Imperative" (one of those ivory-towered fancy phrases for "need to invade and take over") to control the Caspian/Central Asian gas and oil fields.
And then those damned treacherous French get into the act, expecting us to believe that the CIA station chief in Dubai actually paid Bin Laden a visit while he was laid up in hospital there in July 2001, making no attempt to arrest, apprehend or assassinate him. This bit of outrageousness, cooked up by French Intelligence, was published in that slander rag "Le Figaro" on October 31 last year, and can be viewed at: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html
Lies, damned lies, all of it!
At times like this, you should keep in mind the old Russian proverb:
"When the bear has your leg in it's mouth, THEN you know it's true."
So, until Homeland Security or the FBI/CIA pay you a call at 4 am one morning,
hey ... FUGETABOUDIT!
Ten Four, Good Buddy!
Gerry
PS: A high school teacher of mine once told me that if, when having a debate with someone, he starts getting pissed off, it's because he knows he's on shaky ground .....
This a word of support for those that *know* and have the analytical, inquiring minds which aid in producing an alternative network of well sluethed info. Fella's/Ladies; mediocrity rules, the great minds of many centuries have always been attacked, burn't, murdered, destroyed, maimed, undermined and any other manner of adjective irony you could muscle up, since day one. Take it as a compliment that when you try to broaden sheeples minds and they just can't seem to get past their oh-so linear, fact obssessed brainwashing - where anything *not* mainstream is a threat, where anything *not* substantiated and spoon fed by someone they can trust on the nightly news, is a threat - that *you* are in great company and moreover on the *right* track. It's all too easy to sit back and bathe in the glow of cynical stupidity and *not* look at the truth in the world around you and yet millions seem to pull it off with ease! There are always going to be people who, no matter what the truth is, just don't want to open their ears, eye's and minds, because let's face it, reality is a bitch. Who can blame them if on some deeper subconscious level they have decided to live on their knees until the sword falls, rather than die on their feet fighting for the very things they sadly believe they are defending by remaining loyal to the HIVE. Trying to educate sheeple to do a wolfs thinking is a fruitless activity, the indoctrination is so complete it doesn't bear mentioning. All I can say is that to those who know and continue to stay awake during the Big Sleep, you have my prayers, thanks and support and to those who prefer to nap, my sympathies but you get what you ask for.
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are any of these stories possible? well shit you know what even a broken clock is right twice a day. you spit out enough crap eventually youll hit on something.
i have a strong belief in asking questions and there is a definate need for it. although if you think for a second that you "really" know whats going on you need phsyciatric help. unless your in a "trilateral" meeting a bush meeting if youve sat down to dinner with osama maybe if youve sat in on a "shadow" govt meeting you might know more then anyone else.for you jerks to come out and say that someone is stupid and a sheep for listening to regular media ,while you sit around surfing the web at some disgruntled ex cia guy website trying to find the truth you look damned stupid.
if you cant accept all possibilities then you can accept nothing.your here trashing someone for calling it fluff or misinformation yet you REFUSE to believe that there any other possibility other then a big conspiracy.
this doesnt go out to all of you just the obnoxious fools who have more of a closed a mind then the people there trying to insult.
This is not a call to become paranoid, yet care must be taken. After all, you wouldn't want to end up in a civilian labour camp for disagreeing or challenging the official version of September 11.
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If you are an activist, you also have to contend with pen registers, phone taps, room bugs and human infiltrators.
If you are an effective activist, you have to contend with beatings, arrest (often on bogus charges) and occasionally, cold blooded murder.
Welcome to the new World Order.
Some of you have made some very interesting points and raised some very valuable questions. However, not ONE of you has offered ANY valuable answers to your own questions. You've only taken step one of the scientific method.
The best any of you can do is to claim there are massive conspiracies and the "government" is at the helm. One word for you...PARANOID. Have you ever tried to have a rational conversation with a schizophrenic? They think the whole world is conspiring against them too. Perhaps you folks need medication or therapy. Just consider it. Or maybe, there's some other possibility. Something like this one...
You like conspiracy theroies?? Heres one for you...
Maybe, just maybe, there's a cobal trying to get you to believe there's massive conspiracies afoot and the American government is to blame for all these unanswerable questions. Want a crumb of truth to back up what I am telling you...ok here it is. Right here on this forum. Did you watch the "reasonable doubts" video above? Here's my challenge to you...
Watch the above video. Listen to it and hear what is being said. Then read this...
http://www.africa2000.com/PNDX/theory.htm
Read it and study it. It's a lesson about psyops. That's right, Psychological Operations. The same sort of mind control the government has been using for decades. It's how they get you to accept propoganda as the God given truth. It's the brainwashing you all know is among us but can't quite put your finger on it. Yes, you're right, psychological tampering.
Now watch the video again and see how many of these tactics are employed by our speakers. I challenge you to try this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong...but I think I'm right.
Asking questions is fine and dandy folks. But it's only half of what needs to be presented. Without a workable answer, you may as well be asking "So what really makes gravity work?" or "Hmmm I wonder why a proton is sooo much bigger than an electron, but they both have the same magnitude of charge?" Must be some great conspiracies there huh?
The American Empire
The Declaration of Independence was officially adopted on July 4, 1776. This was the creation of the CONFEDERATION known as the "United States of America". This confederation known as the "United States of America" was officially formed into a FEDERAL body on March 1, 1781. The confederation adopted the "United States of America" constitution in 1787 which guaranteed a Republican Form of Government
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THE ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION
November 15, 1777
Courtesy of the U.S. Historical Documents Archive
http://w3.one.net/~mweiler/ushda/ushda.htm
This document may be freely downloaded and printed.
No copyrights attached.
To all to whom these Presents shall come, we the undersigned Delegates of the States affixed to our Names send greeting.
Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the states of New Hampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.
The Stile of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America".
II Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.
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A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier
CONFEDERATION, government. The name given to that form of government which the American colonies, on shaking off the British yoke, devised for their mutual safety and government.
2. The articles of confederation, (q. v.) were finally adopted on the 15th of November, 1777, and with the exception of Maryland, which, however, afterwards also agreed to them, were speedily adopted by the United States, and by which they were formed into a federal bod y, and went into force on the first day of March, 1781; 1 Story Const. 225; and so remained until the adoption of the present constitution, which acquired the force of the supreme law of the land on the first Wednesday of March, 1789. 5 Wheat. R. 420. Vide Articles of Confederation.
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A Law Dictionary by John Bouvier
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT. A government in the republican form; a government of the people; it is usually put in opposition to a monarchical or aristocratic government.
2. The fourth section of the fourth article of the constitution, directs that "the United States shall guaranty to every state in the Union a republican form of government." The form of government is to be guarantied, which supposes a form already established, and this is the republican form of government the United States have undertaken to protect. See Story, Const. §1807.
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The Constitution 1787
Article. IV.
Section. 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,...
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This brings us to the year 1861. The year the CONFEDERATION known as the "United States of America" along with it's CONSTITUTION of 1787 DIED. Under the guise of a civil war, this was the day that the Republic that was the "United States of America", died at the hands of A. Lincoln, who seized power—without any lawful, constitutional authority WHATSOEVER—and set forces in motion that drove the South into a war it did not want, and could not win.
See, when the seven Southern states walked out of Congress March 27, 1861, the quorum to conduct business under the Constitution of 1787 WAS LOST. The only votes Congress could lawfully take, under parliamentary law, were those to set the time to re-convene, take a vote to get a quorum, and vote to adjourn and set a date, time, and place to re-convene at a later time.
Instead, Congress adjourned sine die , i.e., ‘without day.’ “An adjournment sine die—that is, without day—closes the session, and if there is no provision for convening the assembly again, of course the adjournment dissolves the assembly.”
Thus, when Congress adjourned sine die it CEASED to exist as a LAWFUL BODY. The only lawful constitutional power who could declare war on the South, was no longer lawful, or in session.
Congress did not reconvene until days later when it was re-convened under military authority of the Commander-in-Chief. To this day, Congress still sits by military authority of the Commander-in-Chief, and not as a lawful Constitutional body.
Congress knew the rules of parliamentary law and knew that it could have adjourned lawfully, but instead, chose a method that the Congress knew would DESTROY the law making power of Congress. In other words, the campaigns of the commercial speculators, banks, and others in Congress had been successful. The Constitution for the "United States of America" had CEASED to be the law of the land, and the President, Congress, and the Courts were now free to re-make the nation in its own image.
Thus, all the states who were parties to creating the Constitution CEASED to exist and new states were created in their place as Franchisees of the FEDERAL CORPORATION, so that a new Union of the United States could be created.
From that time on, all Presidents have ruled by Executive Order. Lincoln wrote only a handful of E.O.’s during his tenure. Executive Order No. 1, the first ever signed by a President was executed April 21st, 1861, and called up 75,000 militia. other E.O.’s are issued under the authority of the Commander-in-Chief by the Adjutant General, the Treasury, and others.
The point is, Lincoln had NO AUTHORITY to issue Executive Orders and he knew it. Thus, he commissioned a special code to ‘govern’ his acts under MARTIAL LAW. In fact, the Code merely justified his seizure of power. “The Lieber Instructions,” extended The Laws of War and International law beyond the borders of Washington, D.C., and for the first time brought foreign law onto American soil.
The United States government became the CONQUEROR and all states in the Union were thus re-formed as Franchisees of the Federal Corporation. The key to when the states became Federal Franchisees is related to the date when such states enacted the Field Code in law. The Field Code was a codification of the common law that was adopted first, by New York and by California in 1872.
This Federal Corporation was named the "District of Columbia". This CORPORATION was NOT created under the CONSTITUTION of the "United States of America", it was CREATED under Lincoln's MARTIAL LAW as the CONQUEROR of the CONFEDERATED states.
After Lincoln, a new type of government was born in America when the District of Columbia was incorporated in 1872.
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District of Columbia
Established by acts of July 16, 1790 (1 Stat. 130), and March 3, 1791. Corporations of Washington and Georgetown and levy court of Washington County abolished in favor of territorial form of government in 1871. Permanent commission government established July 1, 1878. District Government created as municipal corporation by act of June 11, 1878 (20 Stat. 102). Treated as branch of U. S. Government by various statutory enactments of Congress. District Government altered by Reorg. Plan No. 3 of 1967, effective Nov. 3, 1967. Charter for local government in District of Columbia provided by act of Dec. 24, 1973 (87 Stat. 774). (U.S. Government Manual, Appendix C.)
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"By the Act creating the District into one municipal Corporation, the new Corporation succeeded to the property of the two former ones, and also to their liabilities." District of Columbia v. Adolf Cluss (1881) hn. 3, 103 U.S. 705, 26 L ed 455.
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Ballentines Law Dictionary:
"District of Columbia. The seat of government of the United States, having an area of 69 square miles, situated on the Potomic River, on the border of Maryland opposite Virginia, and subject to the power of Congress to exercise exclusive legislation in reference thereto. 49 Am J1st States section 122. It occupies a unique position, being neither state nor organized territory in the usual sense of such terms, Hepburn v Ellzey (US) 2 Cranch 445, 2 L.Ed. 332. But it is a state as the word is used in reference to the making of treaties with foreign powers. Geofroy v Riggs, 133 US 258, 33 L. Ed. 642, 10 S Ct. 295.
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The District of Columbia is not a `state' within meaning of the constitution." U.S. v. Virginia 1805
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"Under Act of Congress of 1801, 2 Stat. 103, assuming the government of the District of Columbia in virtue of the cession from Maryland and Virginia, the laws of those states and the proceedings in their courts as parts of those laws were recognized within such portions of the district respectively, as originally were within the limits of the ceding states." U.S. v. Eliason, 41 U.S. 291, 16 Peter 291, 10 L Ed. 968
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"The corporation which 16 Stat. 419 created by the name of the District of Columbia succeeded to the property and liabilities of the corporations which were thereby abolished. District of Columbia v. Cluss, 103 U.S. 705, 26 L. Ed. 455
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The Lieber Code explicitly stated in Section I, Article 1., that:
“A place, district, or country occupied by an enemy stands, in consequence of the occupation, under the Martial law of the invading or occupying army, whether any proclamation declaring Martial Law, or any public warning to the inhabitants, has been issued or not. Martial Law is the immediate and direct effect and consequence of occupation or conquest.”
Lincoln imposed MARTIAL Law on America WITHOUT public notice. Americans could thus be arrested (falsely mustered), hauled into military tribunals, tried, convicted, sentenced, put in jail, have all their property seized, and put to death, without ever knowing the trials were in fact, military proceedings in court martial against civilians.
In such military courts no defendant has any Constitutional rights. The Code goes on to say in the same Section, Article 10. that:
“Martial Law affects chiefly the police and collection of public revenue and taxes whether imposed by the expelled government or by the invader, and refers mainly to the support and efficiency of the army, its safety, and the safety of its operations.”
And so in 1863, the I.R.S. was born to collect war reparations from the conquered peoples in the South. Later, F.D. Roosevelt went Lincoln one better when he extended the same UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS to all the states.
The Lieber Code then states in Section II, Article 31., that:
“A victorious army appropriates all public money, seizes all public movable property until further direction by its government, and sequesters for its own benefit or that of its government all revenues of real property belonging to the hostile government or nation. The title to such real property remains in abeyance during military occupation, and until the conquest is made complete.”
Under Martial Law, one’s title is a mere FICTION, since all property belongs to the military except for that property which the Commander-in-Chief may, in his benevolence, exempt from taxation and seizure and upon which he allows the enemy to reside. Now you understand why you are addressed by your "nom de guerre", your WAR name.
In the U.S. Titles and Codes, the District of Columbia can also be called, the “United States.” Why did the federal power need a corporation?
The answer is, first, martial law governments are—"at" law—styled as ‘fictional creations.’ Second, the doctrine of equal standing in law makes it clear that only parties of equal standing can communicate in law. The maxim of Law is; “Disparata non debent jungi—Dissimilar things ought not to be joined.” Third, since such governments are fictions, they can only deal with fictions and are thus, prohibited from re-creating lawful civil authority.
Only the people have the sole and exclusive right, power, and authority to alter, abolish, or create a Lawful Civil government. Therefore, since corporations are also fictions, they became the logical means through which the new government carried on its business. Notice however, the substance of the government is now gone, and it retains only the outward form and appearance. After Lincoln’s War ended and hostilities were declared at an end, the Lieber Code justified keeping martial law a secret. Part of the evidence for the continuation of martial law is seen in an address given by Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor, in which he gives his reasons for vetoing the Reconstruction Acts.
“The veto of the original bill of the 2d of March was based on two distinct grounds, the interference of Congress in matters strictly appertaining to the reserved powers of the States, and the establishment of military tribunals for the trial of citizens in time of peace.” July 19, 1867
The nation was still under Martial Law and Congress knew it though the People have, from that day to this been IGNORANT of the fact. And, the U. S. is under no obligation to tell the People anything regarding their true status, nor to promote reconstruction of the Lawful civil authority. Welcome to the American Empire.
These actions of your CORPORATE government is mere deceit, which is a stratagem of war, and under International Law is legal. This is because under such law, commonly associated with the Laws of War, it is proper for the enemy to deceive his opponent in the field, until engagement is made. Thus, the importance of Roosevelt’s change in The Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, and the reclassification of all Americans as belligerents under an emergency situation (actually a declaration of war).
Canadians find themselves in a very similar situation; i.e, MARTIAL LAW. PERSONS.
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From http://www.DetaxCanada.org
THE FRAUD OF THE CENTURY!
The BNA Act did not actually confederate the North American colonies as our history books have led us to believe.
The BNA Act was nothing more than the "command orders" from the British Crown to the Governor General as to how he was to govern the amalgamated colony called Canada. The preamble of the proposed BNA Act, wherein the statements on confederation (formation of a federal union) are found, was not part of the private member's bill that was passed through the British House of Commons in February 1867. The Act joined the four colonies as one colony. The Governor General, the corporation sole - in essence, the captain of the ship (Canada) was practically an absolute dictator, responsible only to the Crown of Britain through the British Board of Trade.
Eminent domain rested in the corporation sole of the Governor General, rather than in a Federal territory - as was the case with other dominions (colonies). The Canadian Parliament, one half elected, one half appointed and an instrument of the British Government was nothing more than an advisory body to the Governor General. The Roman personhood of the body politic called Parliament was derived from that vested in the corporation sole of the Governor General. Don't wish to believe me on this fact? The (British) Interpretations Act, 1889 clarified the fact that "dominion" was synonymous with "colony".
In 1893, The Imperial Parliament in London passed the Statutes Revision Act wherein Section 2 of the BNA Act 1867 was REPEALED. What was Section 2? It was the succession right of "successors and heirs" of Queen Victoria, the Kings and Queens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland to become the Monarch of Canada after the death of Queen Victoria. Thus, it appears that ALL Kings and Queens of England who have reigned since 1899, Victoria's death, are PRETENDERS and HOAXES to the title "Crown in Right of Canada".
In 1931 Canada was oficially "decommissioned" as a colony of Great Britain by the Statute of Westminster(BR.); and, since no federal state/territory existed or was created to establish eminent domain, (Ottawa being a city in the Province of Ontario, not a Federal district), no provision was made to establish a Federal Government to replace the British appointed Governor General and his advisory body (the Canadian Parliament). Roman personhood ceased for the Canadian Parliament upon the cessation of the British Governors General.
Further, no constitution existed. Section 7 of the Statute of Westminster was inserted because the British Government recognized no Federal Government or Federal authority in Canada. All authority (sovereignty) and eminent domain reverted to the former North American colonies and the four provinces created out of the Hudson Bay Territory. This really meant "the People" of the Provinces, as provincial legislatures remained under the control of a fraudulent Lieutenant Governor, thus under the control of an ultra vires Federal Government and in the name of a foreign monarch. That status remains. The People of Canada have never assented to having the Crown of England as the Crown of Canada. There is no physical crown or throne of or in Canada.
ALL authority of the British Crown (Royal Prerogative) over any "dominion" or colony was relinquished in the 1931 Statute of Westminster(BR.) - if it even existed after the death of Queen Victoria in 1899. Executive and legislative authority was relinquished in Section 2, 3, and 4 ( plus Section 7 for Canada). All commercial control was relinquished in Section 5. All judicial authority was relinquished in Section 6. What then, is the supposed authority the English Crown has over any former colony - other than that which is purely ceremonial? Where is the authority of the Canadian Government(s) to use the personhood (Roman or Common Law) of the British Monarch as the basis of governing Canada and for the making of claims and the laying of charges against the Canadian People? I assure you, such DOES NOT EXIST!
There were no acts of the British Government or any lawful procedures whatsoever in Canada which converted the Federal Parliament into the Federal Government of Canada in 1931, or since. The present Federal Government is a puppet to a syndicate or cabal (consisting of mostly Montreal based financial elite) who seized the decommissioned (abandoned) ship, Canada, through the ancient international law of "right of salvage"; and, has no more status in law than that of a service club. Provincial Governments are also part of this scheme, they also being pseudo-Roman corporations and not responsible to the People who elected them. All true Roman corporations originate in the authority of the Pope of Rome as their creator. Neither the Pope; nor, any lineage of that authority bestowed Roman personhood upon the present Parliament of Canada. Modern Roman corporations are bestowed by the sovereign authority. Since, in Canada, sovereignty rests, and remains dormant, with the People of Canada, Parliament's supposed Roman personhood has not gained existence from that source of creation.
The original classification of the body of land which is now Canada to that of a ship (a Roman person) was a figment of imagination by the British Crown in Chancery. God's creation put the red race, the Amerind People on this land; and like all other People of the Earth - under His Common Law. Since most of Canada was not seized by military conquest, and therefore not made a possession by eminent domain under international law; and, since Canada certainly was not a ship, it was never an object of salvage subject to seizure by opportunists under international law. This leads to a suspicion that the present program of settling aboriginal land claims and establishing large areas of potentially resource rich land areas in Canada as "nations" will allow the "international bankers" to meanouvre these "nations" into indebtedness and eventual foreclosure. This will then, in the eyes of the International Courts, give over to the "international bankers" allodial title to resource rich lands that presently would be in disputed over title. This would deprive Canadians in Common of their sovereignty over this land known as Canada.
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As you see here, Canada is also OCCUPIED by a foreign crown CORPORATION under INTERNATIONAL LAW, the LAWS OF WAR. MARTIAL LAW. PERSONS.
Time to wake up people!!!!
StaR
To Eric I would only say that Thomas Jefferson stressed the importance of the people being able to question their government. We have in the past few months seen tremendous disinformation. One of the worst examples of this is how the news media initially reported the Charles Bishop kamikazi run. This information was not being gathered by reporters, it was being fed to news agencies through security organizations.
This government is unusually secretive. An example was made very clear this week. A judge had to order the release of documents relating to the energy meetings Cheney had last year. Nearly half of the information they released was blacked out. The General Accounting Office is suing Cheney to release more information. This has never occured in the history of this country. Cheney claims executive privaledge saying that presidents have to have the right to speak with people candidly. Yet the week before the Bush administration released the text of conversations Clinton had with another head of state...a leader from another country. George W. has also all but rescinded the Presidential Papers act, meaning that much of the senisitive material from the Iran Contra era related to the activities of his father when he was VP will be further delayed. He also has to protect the likes of James Baker and John Poindexter who were both deeply involved with Operation Black Eagle that Bush Snr ran as vice president with his old CIA pal Felix Rodriguez. This is NOT an internet thing, Eric. John Tower had it in his report (then died in a plane crash). Cheney isn't claiming executive privaledge to protect some constitutional principle, he is claiming it to try and cover his political ass. Eric...what did Cheney do for a living before he was VP. Do you know what Halliburton is? Do you know that they violated the embargo against Iraq? Do you think it is just that nuns who brought penicilin and medical supplies to Iraq are arrested for breaking the embargo, while Cheney and his cronies continue to do business with Sadam? Eric...do you know who April Glaspie is? Do you know George Herbert Walker Bush had more to do with building up the regimes of Hussein and Mullah Omar and Osama Bin Laden than any single muslim? Do you know that Bush Sr. repeatedly denied he had ever met with Manuel Noriega and even continued to do so after the photo of him in the Panamanian Presidential Palace was released where he was sitting on the same couch with the dictator? Do you know that Neil Bush was a major player in the savings and loan scandals? Have you ever heard of Silverado? And what, pray tell, was Jeb Bush doing in Central America several weeks ago? Overseeing an election??? Who would want that man making sure their election was running just right?
What is my point? Well, it is true, you can't believe everything you see on the internet. You can't believe everything you see on CNN, Fox NBC etc. Not since Watergate, not since leading journalists became political celebrities. Not since the Washington Press corps started letting politicians attend their banquets. What's the point? How many people had their pulitzer prizes taken away from them because they lied? How many stories has Rumsfeld told that he has had to retract (or, I should say, had the Joint Chief of Staff retract for him)? Has it ever occured to you that maybe, just maybe, these guys don't know what they're doing? As far as I am concerned, they are handling this thing about as well as Janet Reno handled Waco. It is not a matter of being smarter than anyone. I don't know if what Ruppert is saying is true or not. I don't know if Eugene Hasenfus was telling the truth. But I do know W did not serve his full term in the Texas national guard. I do know that he and all of his brothers feel they can get away with anything. Look at Bush's daughters, falling drunk on the floor. Look at Jeb's daughter, writing her own prescriptions - 7 DUI's. Speaking of which, I do know that Bush and Cheney have at least three dui's between them. And I do know that I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth and I never got one...not one DUI. These guys have all the power and prestige in the world, and they found themselves in positions they couldn't get out of. Ask yourself, why Bush had a whole new drivers license issued to him in Texas (number 0000005)? What is the point? The point is we are being lead by people who believe that the basis of their power is keeping secret the details of their activities. There is no accountability. Bush lied about knowing Ken Lay when the scandal first broke. He lied, on camera, just like Clinton, only he is lying about a lot more than the definition of sex. And ask yourself...what if they are trying to run this country and this economy like Lay ran Enron? Lay was like a messianic figure to these people. What is the point? If we continue on this road of unilateral interventions we will make the world our enemy. Only instead of having one PLO, or one IRA, or one Al queda, we will have many to deal with. And they won't all be muslims. Ask Nichols and McVeigh. Ask the people in the compound of Elohim not far from Oklahoma city.
Sorry if I writ too much, if it isn't a digestible sound byte. But I keep hearing about all this compassionate conservatism and wonder where it is? I have friends in NYC. One was in mid town when it happened. They conveyed a sense of horror tome that the news could not. More than anything else it was how could this happen?
I have a friend who works in the state department. There is apparently a huge power struggle going on between Rice and Powell. We have to ask ourselves what it is really about, and not resort to hurling insults at one another. We are all scared. But at the end of the day, I think my freedom of speech and right to know will do at least as much to save my ass as the Office of Homeland Security.
What is soooo terribly wrong in all of your personal lives that you persist in this blame game? Has life been that unfair to so many of you? I can see the foreign nationals complaining, but the Americans??
I own stock in Halliburton, bought it $9 a share after the recent asbestos law suit results came out. It's now trading at $16 a share. Before the fact, it was trading at $26. I list it as a Strong Buy.
oh and did you know...
<once the crap hits the fan in Uzbekistan!>
rhymes! That's gonna be my new slogan, I'll use it for everything...Someone asks me what time it is, I'll say,
"It won't matter once the crap hits the fan in Uzbekistan! "
or "would you like fries with that?"
"Nah, not unless the crap hits the fan in Uzbekistan!"
I love that shit.
You guys crack me up!
"You've only taken step one of the scientific method." What exactly is the scientific method? Kuhn, Popper, Feyerabend, Lakatos -to name a few- have devoted their working lives to set out the criteria that constitute scientific method and thus is the demarcation between science and other pursuits. They, however, have never agreed on exactly what the 'scientific method is, or should be. i was just wondering then if, using your wonderfully critical mind, you could enlighten me, or us rather. Thanks so much....
What arguments? How can my arguments have flaws if I haven't really made any. I find flaw in your argument that my arguments are flawed.
Ok, I wasn't trying to get too deep for ya on this scientific method thing. I was merely talking about the generally accepted scientific method that we all learned in like the 6th grade. Let's don't get philosophical. Remember the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid-ass).
In case you forgotten what you learned in the 6th grade, I found this website for you:
http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/phy_labs/AppendixE/AppendixE.html
I think it comes from the Rochester Middle School web page or something, but it'll be a good "refresher" course for ya.
So as you can see, most of you here on Indymedia absolutely love step 1, which is:
1. Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena.
But then you fail to even approach completion of any of the other steps.
In short, you do not provide us sheep with any answers. You all seem to think that is not what is important. Unfortunately for your causes, you are wrong. See, in order to win the war you fight so vigilantly for, ultimately, you are going to need me (the non-believer and the majority) on your side. Otherwise you are wasting you time and energy.
What really entertains me in all of this is how many of you seem personally scorned by all of these conspiracies. It's as if you, personally are suffering from these plights. You know, Mohammed Attah wsa personally suffering from the Palestinian plight. Even though he wasn't Palestinian. Even though he'd never been there. Look where it took him.
And you claim that I'm cutting my own throat.