OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM

So the babies that died on the planes in the WTC attacks were protecting what, exactly?

This really has been confusing me for quite some time.

Do you people just not understand the concept of collateral damage and the accidental killing of civilians?

Or, do you believe that any sort of unintended consequence is wholly unacceptable, and thus automatically discredits any action which would have them?

anyways, that poster is profoundly stupid. US war aims are not to kill afghan babies, to even imply that requires one to have enjoyed eating paint chips as a child.

Jon, can you say against what your evidence is for US's desire to limit casualties?

I will agree that they wish to limit the negative PR from casualties. But you don't limit casualties by dropping cluster bombs, or bombing innocent villages, etc.

Your fanaticism is once again showing. Quit being Donald Rumsfeld's bitch, Jon, where is your dignity?

Anarchist:

The only one who demonstrates \"bitch\"-like qualities is you. This is a WAR. People die (even little babies). From a purely selfish perspective, I would say—better their babies than ours. From a more quantitative, and in the end more humanitarian perspective, I would propose that collateral civilian loss is an unavoidable price to achieving long-lasting peace...

In the end, more people will die (maybe even you) in the process of solving these problems brought on by global neglect. But those who present such radical antiwar views lack the intellect and courage it takes to acknowledge many realities…

Go on holding your Telegraph Avenue protests, your Sproul Plaza sit-ins. Continue to make an impact — BITCH.

Anarchist:

The only one who demonstrates \"bitch\"-like qualities is you. This is a WAR. People die (even little babies). From a purely selfish perspective, I would say—better their babies than ours. From a more quantitative, and in the end more humanitarian perspective, I would propose that collateral civilian loss is an unavoidable price to achieving long-lasting peace...

In the end, more people will die (maybe even you) in the process of solving these problems brought on by global neglect. But those who present such radical antiwar views lack the intellect and courage it takes to acknowledge many realities…

Go on holding your Telegraph Avenue protests, your Sproul Plaza sit-ins. Continue to make an impact — BITCH.

This is boring... it's like trying to have a discussion concerning scientific method with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

You're right, I don't have any idea about covert actions taken in countries like Israel, Guatemala, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Chile, Viet Nam or Afghanistan...

They must have glossed over those parts during the multiple, upper-level division seminars I took on U.S. Foreign policy while attending Berkeley... damn public education!

What do you want me to say as part of my relenting gesture? That the Bush family is part of a vast right-wing conspiracy? That CNN and all the other major news networks are acting complicitly as part of a government-controlled propaganda effort? That it was actually a U.S. missile that destroyed WTC 7—not a tower collapse? That despite their having to institute large employee layoffs, U.S. weapons contactor Boeing is profiting from this mess?

Call me naive, but I like to believe that the truth is a little more interesting...

I'll leave the crackpot theories and leftist demagoguery to you. Go fucking have a riot down at the Powell St. turnaround.

When we kill civilians the DoD expresses 'regrets', when we kill Canadians the DoD 'apologizes'.

So Afgan civilians are worth less than Canadian soldiers?

...yup, more fucking hypocrisy.

Please explain how this is war when congress never declared it?

You remember the Constitution, right? Ever actually bothered to read it??