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The Stratification of Racism In Israel -- Phyllis Bennis via JA

by Phyllis Bennis, Institute for Policy Studies
Within Israel there are really 4 levels of citizenship, the first three being various levels of Jewish participation in Israeli society, which are thoroughly racialized. Beneath all these layers of Jews come--4th--the Palestinian citizens.
See: "For Jews Only: Racism Inside Israel:
An Interview with Phyllis Bennis"

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51a/093.html

Excerpt: " All Israeli citizens, including Palestinians, have the right to vote in elections for members of the Knesset (parliament) and for the prime minister. But not all rights are citizenship rights. Other rights are defined as nationality rights, and are reserved for Jews only. If you are a Jew, you have exclusive use of land, privileged access to private and public employment, special educational loans, home mortgages, preferences for admission to universities, and many other things. Many other special privileges are reserved for those who have served in the Israeli military. And military service is compulsory for all Jews (male and female), except for the ultra-Orthodox who get the same privileges as other Jews, but excludes Palestinians, who do not. "

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Bennis is an anti-Zionist Jewish-American person of conscience who is a public lecturer and Director of the Middle East Project at the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C.

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Excerpt fm another Bennis article (fm Colorlines Mag.):

From its origins in the 19th century, Zionism centered on the idea of creating a specifically Jewish state in which Jews would be protected and privileged over non-Jews. Zionist occupation of Palestine was at
first meager, amounting to about 10 percent of the population by 1900. By 1947, Jews were still only about 30 percent of the population of Mandate Palestine and owned only six percent of the land, but the UN Partition Resolution that year still assigned 55 percent of the land to a new Jewish state. However, by means of the 1947-48 war, Israel took over even greater expanses of land and forcibly expelled about 750,000 Palestinians. This travesty was the basis for the official founding of the Israeli state in 1948.

[There is] an Israeli government, with the support of
a substantial part of its Jewish population, which aims toward permanent subordination of Palestinian Arabs within its borders, along with domination over something that might be called a Palestinian state, but what would really amount to a dependent Bantustan. Essentially the same vision that motivated apartheid South Africa.

And there are even more complexities. Within Israel there are really 4 levels of citizenship, the first three being various levels of Jewish participation in Israeli society, which are thoroughly racialized.

(1) At the top of the pyramid--1st--are the Ashkenazi, the white European Jews. At the level of power the huge contingent of recent Russian immigrants--now about 20% of Israeli Jews--are being assimilated into the European-Ashkenazi sector, though they are retaining a very distinct cultural identity.

(2) The next--2nd--level down, which is now probably the largest component of the Jewish population, is the Mizrachi or Sephardic Jews, who are from the Arab countries.

(3) At the bottom--3rd-- level of the Jewish pyramid are the Ethiopian Jews, who are black. You can go into the poorest parts of Jewish West Jerusalem and find that it's predominantly Ethiopian.

This social and economic stratification took shape throughout the last 50 years as different groups of Jews from different part of the world came, for very different reasons, to Israel. So while the divisions reflected national origins, they play out in a profoundly racialized way.

The Yemeni Jews in particular faced extraordinary discrimination. They were transported more or less involuntarily from Yemen to Israel. On arrival they were held in primitive camps, and many Yemeni babies were stolen from their mothers and given for adoption to Ashkenazi families. In the early 1990s a high-profile campaign began to try to reunite some of those shattered families.

Over 80 percent of the land within Israel that was once owned by Palestinians has been confiscated. All told, 93 percent of Israel's land can only be leased or owned by Jews or Jewish agencies.

(4) Beneath all these layers of Jews come--4th--the Palestinian citizens.

All Israeli citizens, including Palestinians, have the right to vote in elections for members of the Knesset (parliament) and for the prime minister. But not all rights are citizenship rights. Other rights are defined as nationality rights, and are reserved for Jews only. If you are a Jew, you have exclusive use of land, privileged access to private and public employment, special educational loans, home mortgages, preferences for admission to universities, and many other things. Many other special privileges are reserved for those who have served in the
Israeli military. And military service is compulsory for all Jews (male and female), except for the ultra-Orthodox who get the same privileges as other Jews, but excludes Palestinians, who do not.

Today there are at least 20 laws that specifically provide unequal rights and obligations based on what the Israelis call “nationality”, which in Israel is defined on the basis of religion. Israelis must carry a card which identifies them as either a Jew, a Muslim, or a Christian.

A rigid hierarchy, highly racialized both within and between religious or national groups, orchestrates Israeli social life. Much of it is legally enforced. The most significant difference between this scenario and other similar ones is in the world's perception of the Israeli reality. For the overwhelming majority of the world's population, South Africa was always considered a pariah state. But Israel is not in that position. Israel is given a pass, if you will, on the question of racism. Because Jews were victims of the Nazi Holocaust, there's a way in which Israeli Jews are assumed to be incapable of such terrible racialized policies.

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[ At its heart, Zionism is a western phenomenon. And we can understand it within the discourse of settler colonialism in which a block of people is transferred from Europe to somewhere else. The language used vis-à-vis Zionism is typical of nineteenth century imperialist discourse. A country solves its problems by exporting them. Therefore, if you have 'surplus Jews', as they were referred to, then you export them. The colonialists are transferred to the new location with the full awareness that the move involves expelling people who live there. As one of the leading founders of Israel and the state's first Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion acknowledged: "'We are the aggressors. The land is theirs [the Arabs']. They are living in it. We come and take it from them.'"

Nonetheless, Zionism is not a Jewish phenomenon. Zionist thought was fully formulated by non-Jews and even anti-Semites. This sheds light on the creation of Zionism-it is actually a scheme to rid Europe of its Jews. (The 1917 Balfour Declaration, advocating a Jewish homeland in Palestine, refers to "90 percent of the population of Palestine . . . as non-Jewish communities.") When Arthur James Balfour was prime minister, he sponsored an act to prevent Jews from immigrating to England and later supported their immigration to Palestine through the declaration named after him. Balfour admitted that he was an anti-Semite, that he hated Jews. He referred to Jews as a "burden to western civilization." Moreover, the only member of the Lloyd George cabinet to protest against the Balfour Declaration was the one Jewish member, Edwin Montagu. ]
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by thanks
I just want to thank you for your insight into this subject. The Israel-Palestine conflict can almost be regarded as a litmus test to one's attitudes about justice and racial equality because I believe there is no other conflict in which so much propaganda and disinformation has been spun about the victims.

It takes someone truly exceptional to break free of this incessant indoctrination, to see the reality as it is instead of how entrenched interests want you to see it.
by Dov
You mean we should support Palestinian terrorists, who blow up Israeli school buses, cafes, Seders, pizza shops, pool rooms, markets, discos, Yeshiva students being shot to death before or after Sabbath; or whole families being gunned down in their homes by these Palestinian murderers.

Just recently Arafat told a group of Palestinian youth who'd come to see him on "Children's Day" that martyrdom was their highest national and religious calling. Only Palestinian leaders celebrate Children's Day by telling children to kill themselves.
by JA
Thank *YOU*, "thanks"!

Many African Americans (even if many, in the throes of survival here in the U.S., may not know a lot about the history of Palestine) have a natural sympathy for the Palestinian situation and cause. (Black intellectuals have always known about Palestinians, since Israel became an issue.)

I have learned that when one studies other people's liberation struggles, one learns a whole lot more about one's own peoples liberation issues, situation, and cause.

When Malcolm X went to the Arab World, he was enlightened a lot more about humanity and the human predicament than he was before he left. He came back to the U.S. and realized that the Black-American situation was not merely a *civil* rights issue, but he elevated and expanded it to a *HUMAN* rights issue! Malcolm was also aware of the Vietnamese struggle for liberation too. He was also aware of the Bandung Conference.

I have learned so much from friends of mine who are Jewish and my friends who are Palestinian--like my extremely valued friend Hatem Bazian and his *multicultural* consciousness, sophistication, and activism-- (or for that matter my other culturally diverse friends, like those who are Korean, once under U.S. domination and oppression, or even a few highly valued friends of mine who are white) about the "The Struggle" for *human* liberation.

I realize that the same people who are oppressing and exploiting Blacks, are the same people who are oppressing and exploiting Palestinian, are the same people who forced Korean "middleman" shopkeepers into Black ghettos and irritated and scapegoated the frictions, were the same people who massacred the Vietnamese, and were the same people who originally oppressed--or didn't care about--the Jews of Europe in the first place. Most of those people in modern times operate in Washington, D.C..(And those people sometimes recruit willing lackeyes from all our cultures to front for their bidding.) It's all a racist shell game. And the trick is to not perpetuate it.
by JA
facts, by Dov Saturday June 21, 2003 at 05:07 PM:
"You mean we should support Palestinian terrorists..."

JA: Yyyyeppp! *'That's'* what Phyllis *'saaaid'*!
by brian
can yu provide a link to that remark of arafats?
by ANGEL
""""You mean we should support Palestinian terrorists, who blow up Israeli school buses, cafes, Seders, pizza shops, pool rooms, markets, discos, Yeshiva students being shot to death before or after Sabbath; or whole families being gunned down in their homes by these Palestinian murderers. """""""(Words by Dov)

Why does Israel confiscate Palestinian land, demolish Palestinian homes, kill three times as many Palestinian People as Palestinians killed Israelis, which in turn causes the above retaliatory acts.
Answer: Because Israel wants to be seen as the Victims instead of the Victimizers that they are.

by Random
Ummm....

so let me get this straight....any person who is black and has a right of center political view and achieves high status under a republican administration is one of the following:

A.) A traitor to his/her/its race
B.) Morally corrupt
C.) Really a stupid hand puppet
D.) All of the above, because we all know that "real" black people could never be conservative and actually achieve something through merit because "The Man" will continually oppress us and only allow us to achieve if it helps out "The Man."

Am I anywhere on target?

Oh...one more thing...do me a favor and tell me how many highly ranked People of Color were included in the last Administration....Clintion's, the "First" Black President....and the current one of "Mister Whitey Milquetoast."
by gehrig
And notice that the description of Henry Kissinger as "Henry the Jew" didn't even give JA a moment's pause. Maybe he was saving his breath for the next time he wants to accuse me of selective indignation?

@%<
by Brian
That was an informative article by the author. I enjoyed it and appreciate it.
by JA
Thoughts of JA, by Random Monday June 23, 2003 at 11:08 AM:

"so let me get this straight...."--

--JA response: *READ* the Belafonte interview. If *that* doesn't answer your question(s), then *NOTHING* will.
by JA
"and, by the way", by gehrig Monday June 23, 2003 at 01:13 PM:

"And notice that the description of Henry Kissinger as "Henry the Jew" didn't even give JA a moment's pause."

JA response: And, by the way, *AGAIN*, the *IRONY* of a Zionist -- a *HARDCORE* ZIONIST at that!! -- insinuating that someone *else* is anti-Semitic. It's like, then, Apartheid white-South Africans calling anti-Apartheid Blacks "anti-white racists."

ANYWAY, *SINCE YOU DON'T KNOW*, *THAT'S WHAT *U.S. PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON* CALLED HENRY KISSINGER: "HENRY THE JEW". UNDOUBTEDLY A TAKE-OFF ON *THAT*.

Henry *knew* this, and apparently wanted to serve power more than he wanted to wipe out anti-Semitism in the White House.

(If some Blacks called Condaleezza "a skeeza" and Collin "a House Nigga", you can *imagine*--if we were Jewish--what we'd call A *WAR CRIMINAL* like Henry who put up with Nixon's anti-Semitism!)

Slither back into your crevice, gehrig.
by English Major
Regarding your rant about Zionists calling people "anti-Semitic" etc...:
That's not irony. Sorry.
" Irony?, by English Major "

I guess that's "*Zionist* English Major", huh?
by ?
People like JA like to front like they are aware and politically conscious but they are idelogues parotting a party line. Most people can see through the hyprocrisy of calling a black man an "uncle Tom" while avoiding terms like "self-hating Jew." I hear the left use the former term, the neo-cons the latter.

What's really funny about the Belafonte-Powell controversy is that both are from the Caribbean. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of history knows the nations in the Caribbean have much different racial histories than the US. Also, the whole house slave/field slave has received a lot more play than it should due to the charisma/influence of Malcolm X. There is no evidence that field slaves were more radical than house slaves. In fact, every major slave insurgency was led by house slaves.

Beyond that, you are just plain wrong when you write that "the same people who are oppressing and exploiting Blacks...are the same people who forced Korean "middleman" shopkeepers into Black ghettos."

What exactly are you talking about? No one forced Koreans to buy those businesses. Blacks sold them willingly just like the Jews before them. Yes, that's right. A lot of those stores were owned by Blacks and used to be owned by Jews. The Jews sold out after the riots in the late 1960s-1970s to Black entrepeneurs who in turn sold their businesses to Koreans. And, like the Jews before them, these Blacks moved out of the hood to safer communities to raise their families. How long have you lived in LA? Anyone who grew up here would be aware of the demographic shifts and chages in the ethnicity of various communities.
by English Major
It would only be ironic if the Zionists themselves were anti-Semitic.
by JA
Irony
by English Major Tuesday June 24, 2003 at 07:07 PM:
"It would only be ironic if the Zionists themselves were anti-Semitic."

JA RESPONSE:

Well, since Palestinians are Semites too, then it can be said that Zionists themselves *are* anti-Semitic.

But, what I mean is that Zionists themselves are *racists* *by definition* -- Zionism is a *racial* *IDEOLOGY* that purports that self-racialized Jews qua Jews have an *inherent*, *superior*, *automatic*, and *natural-born* (AS OPPOSED TO THE *INDIGENOUS* PALESTINIANS ) right to *most* or *all* of the land in Palestine!

That *IDEOLOGY* -- by *definition* -- is *RACIST*!

So, racist Zionists accusing *OTHERS* of being (anti-Jewish) racists *IS* ***IRONIC***, Mr. "Zionist English Major".

In fact, you are so wrapped up in your own ZIONIST RACIAL IDEOLOGY that you *COULDN'T* see this!!
by JA
Irony
by English Major Tuesday June 24, 2003 at 07:07 PM:
"It would only be ironic if the Zionists themselves were anti-Semitic."

JA RESPONSE:

Well, since Palestinians are Semites too, then it can be said that Zionists themselves *are* anti-Semitic.

But, what I mean is that Zionists themselves are *racists* *by definition* -- Zionism is a *racial* *IDEOLOGY* that purports that self-racialized Jews qua Jews have an *inherent*, *superior*, *automatic*, and *natural-born* (AS OPPOSED TO THE *INDIGENOUS* PALESTINIANS ) right to *most* or *all* of the land in Palestine!

That *IDEOLOGY* -- by *definition* -- is *RACIST*!

So, racist Zionists accusing *OTHERS* of being (anti-Jewish) racists *IS* ***IRONIC***, Mr. "Zionist English Major".

In fact, you are so wrapped up in your own ZIONIST RACIAL IDEOLOGY that you *COULDN'T* see this!!
by English Major
You define racism as a "racial ideology." What does race have to do with Zionism? Zionism is the ideology that supports the creation of a Jewish State. Jews are not a race. They are a group of people from all races (if race actually exists.) There are Black Jews, White Jews, Asian Jews, Arab Jews, and Jews of mixed race. You may not agree with the ideology of Zionism that claims that this group of people is entitled to a piece of land, but calling zionism "a racist ideology" is completely ridiculous.
Regarding Semites:
Since Zionists use the term "anti-Semitic" according to its colloquial meaning, it is not ironic for a Zionist to refer to an Arab as "anti-Semitic", since they do not intend "anti-Semitic" to mean "hating all Semitic peoples."
However, I won't get into a debate with you about the legitimacy of colloquial language use. Instead, I will simply point out to you that a Semite can be anti-Semitic, just as a person belonging to a race can be racist. For example, we all know that a white person (one who belongs to the Caucasion race) can be racist.

by JA
RE: Fronters and Haters
by ? Tuesday June 24, 2003 at 12:45 PM .


JA: HERE'S THE **SHORT** VERSION OF MY LECTURE FOR SAKE OF MY TIME:


"?": " ...Black entrepeneurs who in turn sold their businesses to Koreans. "

JA: DAMN...! I FORGOT ABOUT ALL THOSE BLACK GREEN GROCERS AND SOUP OR NOODLE HOUSES !!! -- NOT TO MENTION ALL THOSE BLACK CLEANERS!!

YOU KNOW ALL THE BLACKS IN MY PARENT'S MIDDLE-TO-UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD OF NICE BRICK HOMES AND LOVELY LAWNS, ROSES, AND HEDGES...? THEY ALL SOLD OUT THEIR BUSINESSES IN DA 'HOOD TO KOREANS!!


"?": "No one forced Koreans to buy those businesses... "

JA: MAYBE THOSE KOREAN IMMIGRANTS WHO LEFT KOREA, IN GREAT PART DUE TO U.S. POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC FOREIGN POLICY IN KOREA, LIKE - TO - **EAT** !!


JA: NOW SLAVERY 101:

http://eblackstudies.org/intro/chapter4.htm

In judging of the welfare of the slaves, it is necessary to distinguish the different conditions of slavery. The most important distinction, both as regards numbers and its influence on the well-being of the slave, is that between house-servants and farm or field-hands. The house-servant is comparatively well off. He is frequently born and bred in the family he belongs to; and even when this is not the case, the constant association of the slave and his master, and master's family, naturally leads to such an attachment as ensures good treatment....

The position of the field-hands is very different; of those especially, who labour on large plantations. Here there are none of those humanizing influences at work which temper of the system , nor is there the same check of public opinion to control abuse. The "force" is worked en masse , as a great human mechanism, or if you will ,as a drove of human cattle.


"?": "due to the charisma/influence of Malcolm X"

JA: HOW DO YOU THINK HE *GOT* THAT WAY!?

OR TO PUT IT IN MALCOLM X's WORDS: "THE HOUSE NEGRO PRAYS THAT A HOUSE FIRE WILL GO OUT! THE FIELD NEGRO PRAYS FOR A WIND!!"

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"?": " In fact, every major slave insurgency was led by house slaves. "

JA: LET'S *REPEAT* WHAT HE SAID:

"?": " In fact, every major slave insurgency was led by house slaves. "

JA: ONE MORE TIME!:

"?": " In fact, every major slave insurgency was led by house slaves. "


JA: NOW, EVER HEARD OF **NAT TURNER** ... ???

Slave revolts continued throughout this period. In 1831, Nat Turner, a deeply religious man, along with six other slaves began their crusade "to take up Christ's struggle for the liberation of the oppressed." They began by killing Turner's master, and within twenty-four hours they were joined by some seventy slaves who killed all slaveholding whites in the twenty mile area (approximately sixty in all). Soon hundreds of soldiers swarmed the countryside, slaughtering over one hundred slaves and hanging the leaders of the revolt.

NAT TURNER WAS A *FIELD* SLAVE.


WILL YOU ZIONIST KNUCKHEADS, WITH YOUR "?", AND YOUR "...", AND YOUR ".", PSEUDO-MONIKERS GO PSEUDO-'INTELLECTUALLY' HASSLE SOMEONE *ELSE*!?


NOW, GO BACK TO SCHOOL..., CHUMP!
by English Major
I also suggest that you lay off on the excessive capitalization of sentences. It looks deranged.
by JA
Z.E.M.: "Excessive capitalization"

JA: IS *THAT* THE **BEST** YOU CAN DO... !????


I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ("laughing out loud", gehrig, KL), AND ALL YOUR LITTLE DIMINUTIVE FRIENDS ( "?", "...", ".") -- LIKE THE ONE RIGHT ABOVE YOUR POST -- CAN *SEE* YOUR PSEUDO-'INTELLECTUAL' ASSES GETTIN' *KICKED* !!!

AND SO CAN *EVERYONE* ELSE!!!
by webster
Zionists are not racists because of how they define Jews, but because of how they define non Jews.
by Brian
It is without doubt that the African -Americans were oppressed by whites. Some blacks owned other blacks. However, it is not correct to say that Nat Turner had any affiliation with Christ. Christ was healing those oppressed of the devil but never did he advocate violence against those doing the oppressing.


Another point, Christ said his kingdom was not of this world. Nat Turner was of this world.
by ?
If you disagree with the point about field slaves/house slaves, take it up with Adolph Reed. He made the comment in a course on race and class in the antebellum U.S.
by gehrig
JA: "werfel werfel werfel CAN *SEE* YOUR PSEUDO-'INTELLECTUAL' ASSES GETTIN' *KICKED*"

The funny part is that JA honestly believes that's what's happening.

@%<
REPOST: GOT DELETED IN TUES/WED'S SF-IMC 'FRAY' WITH THE WEBSITE. (A ZIONIST WEB HACK ATTACK?)
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"I am in school", by ?
Wednesday June 25, 2003 at 12:13 PM.

JA: OH, I *SEEE*... : BACK FOR ANOTHA SMACK ON YO' HED!!


"?": "I am in school".

JA: WHAT?: *NURSERY* SCHOOL !???


"?": "If you disagree with the point about field slaves/house slaves, take it up with Adolph Reed."

JA: I AIN'T GOTTA TAKE IT UP WITH *SHEEE'IT* !

**YOU** TALK TO 'IM !

*YOU* THE ONE THAT DON'T KNOW !!

YOU SHOULD BE A *MAN* AND STAND UP FOR *YOURSELF* !!

...OR ADMIT THAT I JUST STOMPED AN INTELLECTUAL *MUDHOLE* IN YO' ASS.

*ONLY* IN *AMERICA*!!! THE GREAT-GREAT-GRANDSON OF A *SLAVE*--**ME**--HAVING TO EDUCATE THE WHYTE BOYS!! -- THE GREAT-GREAT-GRANDSONS OF THE MASTERS!!

I KEEP GIVIN' Y'ALL A LICKIN', BUT Y'ALL KEEP ON *TICKIN'*. HAHAHA...!!

NOW, WHAT DID YOU SAY?:

"?" (June 24, 12:45 PM): " In fact, every major slave insurgency was led by *house* slaves. "


...LOOKY HERE! ...NOW LISTEN UP HERE TO *THE PROFESSOR* !! --

THE CONFESSIONS OF NAT TURNER:

"...they were the lights of the Savior's hands, stretched forth from east to west, even as they were extended on the cross on Calvary for the redemption of sinners. And I wondered greatly at these miracles, and prayed to be informed of a certainty of the meaning thereof - and shortly afterwards, while LABORING IN THE **FIELD**[ !! ] ...


HAD ENUFF !!???

NOW, *SIT* YO' ASS BACK **DOWWWWN** ..... !!!

(and take your l'il buddy gehrig with you)

HAHAHA… !!!
by Brian,ha,ha,ha,ha
Dearest Gehrig, this site of which I am about to make available toall of those who oppose you and your myopic views is I repeat, not from the likes of your great granddaddy David Irving. Schmutz! Putz, anyone can toss your words about.


http://english.daralhayat.com/Spec/12-06-2003/article-2003
by gehrig
404, dude -- "this page cannot be found."

Like to try again?

By the way, I notice that David Irving is advertising his latest "Ship of Fools" conference in Cincinnati -- claiming that the previous four sessions were "very successful."

If they were so very successful, though, why is Irving on record as saying the 2002 event ended up fifteen thousand dollars in the red?

@%<
by Brian
Go to http://www.xymphora.blogspot.com Go to the Friday article and then read and do the clicking.



gehrig, you know what they say about a person who always resorts to name calling don't you?

Yehuda Bauer=1.6 million
by gehrig
So it's the "neo-con as codeword for Jew *wink wink*" conspiracy theory bit. Another day, another codeword.

@%<
by Brian
As far as I know, the jews and the supporters of the jews think every word the Germans used to be in code for something dealing with death. WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE HISS HISS


Slan Abhaile= ?????? in code?
by JA has issues
JA doesn't appear to be too good at "thinking" or "expressing accurate viewpoints" or things like that.


by Leftists change definition of zionists
The favorite hobby of the israel-haters is to change the definition of zionists.

THe real-world, normal, educated definition of "zionist" is, more or less, anyone, anywhere, of any race or religion, who supports the existence of israel as a jewish state.

The insane, wacko israel-hating freakish definition of "zionist" is "someone who supports (insert all bad things israel's govt is ever even accused of doing). The only people on earth who use this definition are (1) the arab media, arab world, extremists, moderates, etc. and (2) the israel-hating far left.


by Angie
"JA doesn't appear to be too good at "thinking" or "expressing accurate viewpoints" or things like that."

Such as? And compared to whom, pray tell?
by Brian
Nessie, I find it hard to believe that the puppet masters are controlling the jews. Who controlls whom?
by JA
"JA has issues", by JA has issues, Sunday June 29, 2003 at 07:49 AM:

(gehrig): " JA doesn't appear to be too good at "thinking" or "expressing accurate viewpoints" or things like that. "

JA: Which one of my assertions/rebuttals on this page are *YOU* going to challenge?

Be a *man* [I *know* you're male]! You got something to say, then stand up for yourself and be *SPECIFIC*! -- and stop hiding behind easy, vague accusations.

MAKE ... - MY - DAY !
by JA
OH -- AND USE A *REAL* MONIKER!
by gehrig
JA, repeating an earlier mistake: '(gehrig): " JA . ...'

Sorry, whizbang, but you've blown it again.

As I've said before, there's a very simple rule to tell whether or not a post is mine. That rule is: if it doesn't have my name on it, then I didn't write it and I didn't post it.

Got it yet?

@%<
by JA
RE: "JA blows it again"
by gehrig Sunday June 29, 2003 at 11:37 PM.

JA: Uh-huh... Rrrrrright...
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