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9PM Reconvergence, Night the War Starts Demo

by when the war starts
Reconvergence center announced for the night the war starts demonstration. Be prepared to be out in the streets all night!

RECONVERGENCE CALL

  • When: 9pm the day the bombs start falling.
  • Where: Powell and Market

The night the war starts, people will converge at Powell and Market at 5pm. We will be there. But we cannot let the lessons of March 15th be lost on us. Police can and do attack demonstrations without provocation. Demonstrations can get split into pieces, and we can't let that kill them. If these maniacs running the U.S. government really do attack Iraq without U.N. approval, people will be pissed off! We can't let that energy be easily dispersed. Come prepared, organized, ready to continue the protest in smaller pieces if necessary. To aid in that process of converging dispersed groups of protestors, we are calling for people to meet at Powell and Market at 9:00pm, to continue the protests that may be dispersed.

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by Daniel Burton

Based on my experience with the breakaway march, I think the police may try to break up any spontaneous gathering without a permit fairly quickly. One time and place to reconverge may not be enough. We may need several times and places to reconverge, should the protests become dispersed, on an ongoing basis.... Or perhaps we should have an open-ended calls to reconvene somewhere whatever time it may be (within a particular time frame) to meet up for further actions.

I suggest multiple locations staggered throughout the day and night with about one hour separation, each location different from the last one. This would give us a chance to escape large mobilizations of police, chaotic situations, etc., and start again in a relatively free zone.

What I would call these is "conditional reconvergences," reconvergence calls that are conditional on the main protest being dispersed. In addition to that, it would be desireable to have a few unconditional reconvergences, like at 9 P.M., for people who are late and want to join in. If people are still marching together at this point, they can march en masse to the reconvergence locale.

I think some plan like this would be highly effective in keeping the police from breaking up protests. They wouldn't know in advance whether they would have to be with the march trying to stop it, or whether it would disperse, and they would have to move out to another location. This would make it hard for them to deploy advance units designed to stifle dissent.

Oh, here's an even more complex twist on this: We could have secondary reconvergence locations in case police try to prevent people from even converging in the first place, or in case converging at the first location ends up somehow being dangerous.

So here's an interesting idea: A series of conditional reconvergence calls and a few unconditional ones, along with secondary fallbacks.


Daniel Burton

by somegirl
it would be easy for them to deploy advance units since they would already know where the block is going to reconvene. also they can get there a lot faster.

but i do see some benefits to this. for example, at one march the bb tried to get to union square and were blocked by the cops. if people dispersed then reorganized at the square how would the cops stop them??

when there's something in the way, go around
on march 15, the most effective action taken by the BB was after the police arrested 15 people in the middle of mission, they assumed their job was done and started to march away. as soon as we could, we got back on the street and continued to march.

i reccomend, and id like to hear comments:
temporary compliance with the police! if they tell us to get on the sidewalks, do so, they will consider their jobs done and we can start again, undevided.

if the police start arresting people like what happened at the end of the BB march on saturday, dont stop. only stand to observe if people are being arrested for direct action. if people are arbitrarily surrounded and arrested, it allows the cops to stop the march. and thats just what they did. the 150 people arrested off of market served to keep us all in the same place for a long period of time, eventually stopping our march. if people are being arrested for no apparent reason, then we should continue to march, because the cops would rather follow the march than stay idle for 2 hours arresting 150 random people...

to sum up, i say: we march. dont stop. keep moving, and hold continued meeting places to solidify our numbers. 'somegirl's idea of meeting at union square randomly, not trying to march and being blockcaded is a good one. follow along those lines.

the police WILL try and surround small groups to arrest arbitrarily and hinder our momentum, if we keep moving, then they are more likely to just stop with arresting the people they have surrounded.

oh, and deciding to run at key moments is REALLY effective too!!
by JR "Bob" Dobbs
Couldn't agree more, don't let the cops stop the march solely by arresting people and making the march watch. BUT - An important point to stress - Make sure legal observers are left behind for those being arrested. It would really suck to have the rest of the bloc abandon their compatriots only to have their civil rights completely trampled and undocumented.
ONLY LEAVE IF LEGAL OBSERVERS STAY BEHIND
by Helga
you know, I and lots of people have been planning for this to start Monday, and for the day after to be Thursday. People are arranging backup carpools for if the BART system gets shut down by someone continually sticking their finger in the door as they're trying to shut and refusing to stop.
But it could start at 8am Thursday morning because this is when night falls in Iraq after the 48 hour deadline set by resident Bush, and then what would happen with the day after plans. Would we wait till Friday, or start already on Thursday, given that so many are already taking the day off.
by impartial observation
> if the BART system gets shut down by someone continually sticking their finger in the door

Another possibility is that people may jam the machines with wet tickets. The driver could go out on strike. Someone might throw a piece of chain onto the third rail, shorting it out. Someone might even take down the grid by throwing a bola made of dog chain and fishing weights at some high tension wires out in the country somewhere.

None of this would be good for the anti-war movement. BART greatly enhances the movement’s ability to move about from one action to another. And while a grid blackout would certainly make looting a lot easier, it would also cripple the movement’s ability to stay in touch and aware through SF-IMC and the various LPFMs that would otherwise be bringing news from eyewitnesses and participants. Don’t do it.

by pop3
BART needs to be hands-off.
(1) The target of No Business As Usual and shut down tactics are the corporations and war machine. They don't take BART, but thousands of working people do. Working people from all walks are current or participants in the anti-war movement, but each not for long if the movement's tactical move is to impede them from getting home to their families after a long day of work.

(2) Many of us will be using BART to get to the city from various points in the Bay Area for the demos.
by me
We need public transit to get to work and to get to actions. Don't mess it up.
by stay adaptable
bart may be shut down no matter what

the government may shut it down

bomb threats

smoke in the tube

for sure they'll ban bicycles like they did at every big demo recently

do not rely on bart

DO NOT RELY ON BART

if you must be in the city, sleep over the day before

if you are stuck outside and want in, walk, march, bike, hitchhike, airlift, kayak, ferryboat, tarzan swing, or better yet,

GET BUSY IN THE EAST BAY!

but don't rely on BART.

don't.


p.s. what the fuck, "we need to get to work"?
by James Lovette-Black RN
A little understanding goes a long way.... some of us have critical jobs taking care of people: RNs, MDs, etc., and we simply cannot 'call in'. Our corporate-dominated (there those #$%^&*() corporations have taken over, yet again) health care non-system makes it impossible to keep a job if one calls in unless you are ill or dead.

So, my sympathies are most definitely in support of the global walk out from work, but I cannot join in, except in spirit.

A big hug and thanks to everybody who has or will be walking out....!
by Bill
For black bloc types: Why not wear some colors besides black during your breakaway demos? It would be a lot easier to avoid the police since the black outfits make it easier for the cops to pick you out in a crowd.
by Bill
For black bloc types: Why not wear some colors besides black during your breakaway demos? It would be a lot easier to avoid the police since the black outfits make it easier for the cops to pick you out in a crowd.
by c. speed (speedo92 [at] hotmail.com)
people, we have got to think of other solutions to problems. bombing is a solution of fear
by something
Why would anyone want to mess up BART to protest a war about OIL? Hello?? McFly? BART is good for the people, the environment, the Bay Area -- good for most everything Bush is against.
by George
Well I am not in the bay area.. I am in San Diego we just had one of many protests today.. and the cops tryied to stop us from marching from streets to streets.. They would take their motorcycles and block off the intersections to the streets making it imposible for us to move tot he next street... so We would run back the opther way and leave on a side street.. ..........this method if very effective since the authorities have to move thier vehicles throught the streets once again and try and realize where the protesters are gonna go next... they got pissed and finnaly started arresting peopel and blocked us all in a corner of a street where noone was able to even leave or they would get arrestes,...... we were detained... I am writing this only to advise protesters to stick together and not let the protest get out of hand stay true to the non-violent casue and unity.. ...... together we will overcome the warmongers
by old punk
how about anthrax, west nile fever virus, and vx nerve gas? i assume you would include weapons of mass destruction in your challenge, and not just hardware. after all, we're not invading them to take away saddam's howitzers...

the links below all specifically document how the US government sold chemical and biological weapons and other related goodies (missle testing system components, etc.) to the iraqis, even after gulf war number 1.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/03/119547.php
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm
http://mediafilter.org/shadow/S43/S43anthrax.html

and, actually, it wasn't the french, but the germans who were the biggest european sellers.

get your facts straight before you accuse others of myth and propaganda.
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