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DESCRIPTION:Discussion of:\nReform or Revolution Questions of Orientation, Questions of 
 Morality\n\nWe'll discuss the question of reform vs. revolution drawing 
 from this essay, from BAsics, from the talks and writings of Bob Avakian 
 (https://revcom.us/en/bob_avakian/reform-or-revolution-questions-orientation-questions-morality)\n\n"Now, 
 let me emphasize again: I can and do admire the morality of people who want 
 to alleviate suffering (and who may not see beyond that). We should in no 
 way denigrate or put down these people—people who do things like put 
 water in the desert for immigrants crossing from Mexico—we should admire 
 them and we should unite with them.\n\n"But that cannot provide the 
 fundamental solution to that particular problem, of the suffering of these 
 immigrants and what drives them to leave their homelands in the first 
 place, nor can it eliminate all the other ways in which masses of people, 
 throughout the world, are oppressed and caused to suffer.\n\n"Or, again, 
 while I admire the people who volunteer with things like Doctors Without 
 Borders, if they were to say, “this is the most anybody can do, there’s 
 nothing more you can do,” we would have to engage in principled but very 
 sharp struggle with them, even while uniting with them and admiring their 
 spirit, because it is objectively not true that this is all that can, or 
 should, be done—and it is harmful to the masses of people to say that 
 this is all that can be done. \n\n"In fundamental and strategic terms, it 
 is necessary to choose where the weight and the essence of your efforts is 
 going to go: into fighting the effects and the symptoms, or getting to the 
 cause and uprooting and getting rid of that cause? And that’s why you 
 become a revolutionary—when you realize that you have to seek the full 
 solution to this, or else the suffering is going to continue, and get 
 worse. That’s one of the main things that impels people toward 
 revolution, even before they understand, scientifically, all the complexity 
 of what revolution means and what it requires. And, as you become a 
 communist and you increasingly look at the whole world, and not just the 
 part of the world that you are immediately situated in, you see that the 
 whole world has to change, that all oppression and exploitation has to be 
 uprooted, everywhere, so that it can no longer exist anywhere."\n 
 https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2026/08/18/18888077.php
SUMMARY:Discussion of:Reform or Revolution Questions of Orientation, Questions of Morality
LOCATION:2444 Durant Avenue\nBerkeley, CA 94704
URL:https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2026/08/18/18888077.php
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