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DESCRIPTION:FW:\nFor its July meeting, Marin Ranked Voting will change locations.  
 We\nwill meet at the Aroma Cafe in downtown San Rafael on Wednesday, July 
 18\nat 7:00pm. Everyone interested in better ways of choosing 
 public\nofficials is encouraged to drop by.\n\nThe Aroma Cafe is at 1122 
 4th Street, between A and B Streets. Our\nregular location at College of 
 Marin will be available again in August,\nbut we may decide to make the 
 switch permanent anyway.\n\nMeanwhile, you've seen lots of calls to action 
 about AB 1294 recently,\nand know that the next stop is the Senate 
 Elections Committee on July\n10.  But did you know that IRV for city 
 elections is now on the\npolitical agenda in Los Angeles?  On June 13 a 
 committee of the City\nCouncil instructed the city clerk to spend the next 
 six months writing\nup IRV and a laundry list of other proposals for 
 improving turnout in\ncity elections.\n\nBelow is an extensive eyewitness 
 report, plus documents, from David\nHoltzman, Los Angeles area coordinator 
 for Californians for Electoral\nReform.\n\n-- Bob 
 Richard\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\n-------- 
 Original Message --------\nSubject: [LAvoteFIRE] City Hall developments - 
 from the 10th floor\nDate: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:19:11 -0700\nFrom: David 
 Holtzman\nTo: Friends, Members and Supporters of L.A. VoteFIRE\n\nDear 
 Friends and Supporters of Having Instant Runoff Elections,\n\nOn Wed., June 
 13, on the 10th floor of city hall, the Los Angeles City\nCouncil Rules and 
 Elections Committee discussed several ways to improve\ncity elections, 
 including the motion by Councilmembers Huizar and\nGarcetti that would move 
 the city a step closer to using Instant Runoff\nVoting (IRV).\n\n[see press 
 coverage reproduced below]\n\nOf about 50 people in the audience at the 
 committee meeting, about a\ndozen wore "IRV 4 LA" stickers that I brought 
 along.  Most of the\nspeakers expressed support for IRV, but the committee 
 did not vote on\nthe Huizar-Garcetti motion -- because the discussion went 
 too long (all\nbut one of the committee members left before it was over) 
 and the IRV\nissue is being folded into a larger report on election reform 
 that the\nCity Clerk is expected to produce over the next six 
 months.\n\nThe bottom line from the Rules and Elections Committee meeting 
 last\nWednesday is that the committee did not vote on anything, but 
 instead\nasked City Clerk Frank Martinez to report back in 6 months, on 
 several\nproposals, including the Huizar-Garcetti motion on IRV, all 
 together\nunder one council file number.  Eric Garcetti said Jose Huizar 
 would be\nfine with that, although Huizar had come and gone hours before.  
 So: the\nIRV motion has been delayed because it has been combined with 
 other\nissues.  In general, an omnibus election reform is not a very 
 efficient\nvehicle.  (It reminds me of "Big Green", a multi-idea 
 statewide\nenvironmental initiative that eventually went down to 
 defeat.)\n\nPart of the delay on IRV was due to Committee Member Richard 
 Alarcon's\nopposition.  In his remarks at the committee meeting, he 
 expressed\ndispleasure with the claim that IRV would reduce negative 
 advertising in\npolitics.  Alarcon said that going negative was often a 
 good idea in\npolitics.  Then he disparaged IRV as "radical" because it is 
 not yet in\nwidespread use in governmental elections in the United States ( 
 --\nalthough it is used in many places around the world, and by 
 numerous\ncivic and professional groups in the U.S., and in many 
 mainstream\nacademic communities).  He acknowledged that democracy is 
 expensive, but\nwould not jump on the "fewer elections" bandwagon (however, 
 he may have\nfelt somewhat defensive in a room full of people concerned 
 with voter\nfatigue because his early departure from the State Legislature 
 had just\ncasued a special election).  Nevertheless, because Dennis Zine 
 seemed\nsupportive, and Eric Garcetti seconded the motion, it is my sense 
 that\nif the IRV motion had been considered separately, it would have 
 passed\nthe committee on a 2-1 vote.\n\nDetails of the committee 
 meeting\n\nThe Rules and Elections Committee meeting started with (fairly 
 long)\npresentations from several influential groups about a variety 
 of\nelection improvement ideas.  The groups were: the African American 
 Voter\nRegistration, Education and Participation Project; the Asian 
 Pacific\nAmerican Legal Center of Southern California; California Common 
 Cause;\nthe League of Women Voters of Los Angeles; the National Association 
 of\nLatino Elected and Appointed Officials; the New America Foundation; 
 and\nthe William C. Velasquez Institute (formerly the Southwest 
 Voter\nResearch Institute).  Some very good news from the meeting is that 
 all\nthe groups that expressed opinions on IRV said positive things.  
 (At\nleast one presenter called it "the star of the show," to 
 general\nagreement.)  So we can work together moving forward.\n\nIndividual 
 Councilmembers also expressed support for IRV, and for some\nof the other 
 proposals being discussed (including ideas about holding\ncity elections at 
 the same time as state elections, about the number and\nlocation of polling 
 places, and about letting people called to jury duty\nwork at the polls 
 instead).\n\nCity Clerk's report\n\nCity Clerk Frank Martinez gave a long 
 presentation about the most recent\nelection and related issues.  For 
 razzle-dazzle, his staff brought along\npolling place hardware (voting 
 booths, an audio ballot marker, and an\novervote/undervote alert system) 
 and some pollworker recruitment\ncommercials.  One thing he noted was that 
 his office was understaffed\nrelative to similar offices in other big 
 cities.\n\nCombining elections to increase turnout\n\nOne obvious way to 
 increase turnout in city elections would be to have\nthem on the same day 
 as Congresssional and Presidential elections.  But\nthe county is very 
 reluctant to run city elections.  So for the city to\nhave its elections on 
 the same Election Day as state and federal\nelections, the City Clerk would 
 need to run a concurrent election.\nIndeed, on May 15, the city and the 
 county had successfully run two\nseparate elections at the same time and in 
 the same polling places: a\nvacant State Assembly seat (Alarcon's) was up 
 in a special election (the\ncounty runs state elections) while the L.A. 
 Community College District\nhad a district-wide runoff that day for one of 
 its board seats (the city\nruns LACCD elections).  But despite being proud 
 of the May 15 effort,\nFrank Martinez said he'd rather resign than run 
 citywide elections --\nwith or without IRV -- on the same November Election 
 Days as the county\nruns the elections for federal and state offices.  (Of 
 course he might\njust stay and conduct such citywide elections if the City 
 Council would\naddress his complaint about the understaffing of his 
 office.)\n\nAnyway, for now, L.A. VoteFIRE has proposed using IRV to 
 eliminate the\ncity's separate primary election day in March (of 
 odd-numbered years).\nThis would let voters express their top choices and 
 runoff choices on\nthe regular city general election ballot in May (of 
 odd-numbered years),\nwith one trip to the polls or post office.  This 
 simple idea still\nmerits separate consideration.\n\nFYI, please see the 
 recent local press related to the meeting, below,\nincluding a letter in 
 the L.A. Times by Carole Bradley, who is an L.A.\nVoteFIRE participant and 
 an active member of the Alternative Voting\nMethods committee of the League 
 of Women Voters Pasadena Area.\n\nAs always, thank you for your continued 
 support of having Instant Runoff\nelections,\n\nDavid Holtzman, 
 Founder\nLos Angeles Voters For Instant Runoff Elections.\n\n[note: Last 
 Saturday, the League of Women Voters of Los Angeles decided\nto pursue 
 education about instant runoff voting, and possible advocacy\nof IRV (in 
 concurrence with the Pasadena Area League), as an official\npart of the 
 LWVLA program that begins this year.  So IRV is by no means\na dead issue 
 for the balance of this year.  L.A. VoteFIRE and other\norganizations will 
 be working with LWVLA to educate voters and the\npublic about instant 
 runoffs, to help us be prepared for action when the\nCity Clerk presents 
 his report.  More on this in the next L.A. 
 VoteFIRE\nupdate!]\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nInstant 
 runoffs might be fix for voter fatigue\nBy Steve Hymon, Times Staff 
 Writer\n\nLos Angeles Times, June 11, 
 2007\n\nhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-localgovtqa11jun11,1,3096499.sto\nry\n\nLet's 
 begin by agreeing that the Los Angeles City Council's Rules and\nElections 
 Committee is not exactly Comedy Central.\n\nThat's not saying committee 
 Chairman Eric Garcetti isn't a host with a\nsense of humor. He is. But hey, 
 it's Rules and Elections. Short of\npassing out whoopee cushions and 
 nachos, you can only do so much.\n\nBut this Wednesday's meeting may be 
 different because the committee is\ngoing to discuss instant runoff voting. 
 If you're tired of the endless\nelectioneering in the city, this is a good 
 thing.\n\nAnd the problem?\n\nAs attentive readers may recall, this column 
 believes that perpetually\nlow turnout in city elections is due, in part, 
 to the city's insistence\non holding elections in March of odd-numbered 
 years. Any wonder that\nturnout in this year's election was just 11% and 
 even lower during the\nMay runoffs?\n\nThat means city elections follow 
 directly on the heels of far sexier\ngeneral elections in November of 
 even-numbered years. The result:\nElection season feels like hockey season. 
 It never ends.\n\nLook at the next couple of years. Voters will have the 
 presidential\nprimary in February, the state primaries in June and the 
 general\nelection in November to decide the presidency.\n\nThen, four 
 months later in Los Angeles, in March 2009, eight council\nseats and the 
 citywide offices of controller, city attorney and mayor\nwill be up for 
 grabs - with possible runoffs to follow in some of those\nraces.\n\nThat's 
 five elections in 15 months. Uncle!\n\nWould instant runoff be easier on 
 voters?\n\nSome experts say it would. It's already being used in San 
 Francisco,\nOakland and Berkeley.\n\nInstead of picking one candidate, 
 voters would be asked to rank three by\norder of preference. Those 
 rankings, in turn, would determine the\nwinner.\n\nLet's look at a 
 hypothetical council election involving three\ncandidates: Charlie Brown, 
 Lucy Van Pelt and Pigpen.\n\nAfter the votes are tallied, Lucy received 
 45%, owing to her pledge to\ninstitute a Great Pumpkin eradication program. 
 Pigpen somehow manages\n40% and Charlie Brown - always the loser - gets 
 15%.\n\nBecause no candidate received a majority, the election would enter 
 an\ninstant runoff phase. The first step would be to eliminate 
 the\nlast-place finisher and redistribute those votes according to 
 whom\nvoters picked second.\n\nIn other words, if Charlie Brown was your 
 first choice and Lucy your\nsecond, then Lucy would get your vote. If Lucy 
 gets enough of those\nsecond-place votes to put her over the 50% mark, she 
 wins.\n\nThe pros and cons of instant runoff:\n\nThe New America 
 Foundation, which is pushing the proposal in cities\nacross the country, 
 says Los Angeles could save money with instant\nrunoffs, having spent $30.9 
 million to administer separate runoff\nelections since 1993.\n\nThat's not 
 to mention all the fundraising and campaign promises - not\nall well 
 thought out - that accompany runoffs.\n\nMore important, the foundation 
 says that candidates vying to be\nsomeone's second or third choice would 
 stick to the issues more\nclosely - and sometimes even build coalitions 
 around issues.\n\n"Local elections are some of the most important in terms 
 of having an\nimpact on your daily life," said Lynne Serpe, deputy director 
 of the\nfoundation's political reform program. "I think that elections 
 have\nbecome so negative and nasty that people tune out and turn 
 off."\n\nThere is, of course, a con side. Runoffs can be logistically 
 difficult,\nand eliminating the May general election could also mean 
 denying voters\na chance to get to better know the two finalists. Also, it 
 could mean\nthat candidates could win even without a majority vote.\n\nThe 
 Rules and Elections panel is only going to discuss the idea. 
 But\nCouncilman Jose Huizar - who isn't on the committee - very much wants 
 to\nsee the issue move forward for a council vote.\n\nHuizar predicts his 
 colleagues will go for the idea "if we can make the\ncase that we can save 
 a whole lot of money and it will cut down on the\nmadness and negative 
 campaigning."\n\nAnd, Huizar added, it would also help if he can show that 
 instant runoff\nvoting won't affect his colleagues' futures.\n\nStay 
 tuned.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nLos 
 Angeles may vote for change\nInstant runoffs, new dates some proposals for 
 combating low turnout\nBY KERRY CAVANAUGH, Staff Writer\n\nL.A. Daily News, 
 June 14, 2007\n\nTo entice Angelenos back to the polls after record-low 
 turnouts in\nrecent years, the city is mulling a host of changes, including 
 new\nelection dates, more mail-in voting and instant runoff voting.\n\nIn 
 this year's elections, 10 percent of registered voters participated\nin the 
 March primary and 7 percent turned out for the May 
 general\nelection.\n\nThe reason?\n\nIn a hearing Wednesday, voter 
 education groups cited voter fatigue from\ntoo many elections, complicated 
 initiatives, language barriers, negative\ncampaigning, lack of interest in 
 local races and a growing belief that\nvoting doesn't matter.\n\n"We really 
 need to bring back what the importance is of local\nelections," said Jimmy 
 Valentine with the African American Voter\nRegistration, Education and 
 Participation Program. "Your council\nmembers, your school board members, 
 those are the ones that figure in\nyour daily lives in your 
 community."\n\nOne proposal to increase voter turnout - or at least reduce 
 voter\nfatigue - is instant runoff voting. The system, now used in 
 San\nFrancisco, allows voters to rank the candidates in order of 
 preference.\n\nTo determine the winner, officials tally first-choice 
 candidates. If a\ncandidate has a majority, he or she wins. If there is no 
 majority, the\nlast place candidate is eliminated and ballots that listed 
 the candidate\nas the first choice are recounted using the second choice. 
 That\nelimination and recount process is continued until a candidate gets 
 a\nmajority of votes.\n\nSupporters said instant runoff voting would be 
 cheaper since there's\nonly one election and it could increase 
 participation, since the number\nof voters tends to decrease in local 
 elections between the primary and\nfinal election.\n\nCouncilman Jose 
 Huizar said he began pushing instant runoff voting after\nthe last election 
 when he went to vote for the community college board\ntrustee runoff, and 
 was told only two other people (beside him and his\nwife) had voted.\n\n"I 
 asked myself, wasn't I just here a few months ago to vote for 
 this\nperson?" Huizar said.\n\nSo far the proposal has support from Mayor 
 Antonio Villaraigosa and\nseveral City Council members, but it's still in 
 the discussion phase and\nwould require changing the city charter and 
 election code.\n\n[note: the Mayor has not actually expressed his formal 
 support for IRV.\nThis was an editing error by the Daily News.  Apparently, 
 the proposal\nthe mayor supports is vote-by-mail 
 elections.--DAH]\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nLetters 
 to the Editor: Make votes really count\nRe "Instant runoffs might be fix 
 for voter fatigue," June 11\n\nLos Angeles Times, June 15, 
 2007\n\nhttp://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/la-le-friday15.4jun15,1,7897\n861.story\n\nBased 
 on the low turnout and high cost of the recent city runoff\nelection - 
 which involved only two school board seats and one community\ncollege 
 position and cost taxpayers about $8 million - the Los Angeles\nCommunity 
 College District has endorsed the concept of change in our\nelectoral 
 system. We have resolved to investigate instant-runoff voting\nand look 
 forward to the City Council's deliberations on a proposal by\nCouncilmen 
 Eric Garcetti and Jose Huizar.\n\nIn San Francisco and other Bay Area 
 cities, the instant runoff has\nproved effective for saving taxpayer 
 dollars and increasing voter\nparticipation.\n\nMONA FIELD\nEagle 
 Rock\n\nThe writer is a trustee of the Los Angeles Community College 
 District.\n\n[note: to use IRV for LACCD elections would require a change 
 in state\nlaw, as LACCD elections are not governed by the L.A. City 
 Charter.\nPending state legislation sponsored by Californians for Electoral 
 Reform\nmay address this issue.--DAH]\n\n\nThanks for the timely article. 
 One clarification is needed: With\ninstant-runoff voting, majority support 
 for the winner is assured\nwithout a separate election.\n\nAlso, because 
 voter turnout in the separate runoffs is usually less than\nin the primary, 
 the majority support with an instant runoff would\nusually represent a 
 majority of more voters.\n\nThe Los Angeles City Council should lead the 
 way in the county by using\nan instant runoff to help fix the current 
 system, which costs taxpayers\nand candidates too much and leaves voters 
 tired and covering their ears.\n\nWith an instant runoff, voters simply 
 rank the candidates, indicating\nwho should get their vote if their 
 favorite is eliminated, enabling\ninstantaneous runoffs.\n\nThis system 
 would take the nastiness out of campaigns because candidates\nwould seek to 
 get high rankings from their opponents' supporters.\n\nCAROLE 
 BRADLEY\nAltadena\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nEditorial: 
 Instant runoff voting is worth a look\nLocal agencies can spend less on 
 elections because the primary and\nrunoff occur simultaneously, which would 
 mean less voter fatigue.\n\nL.A. Daily Breeze editorial, June 15, 
 2007\n\nThe last two elections supervised by the Los Angeles City Clerk's 
 Office\nproduced dismally low turnouts. Only 10 percent of registered 
 voters\ntook part in the March primary election, and the May runoff 
 election\ndrew only about 7 percent.\n\nThe problem isn't unique to the 
 city of Los Angeles. Many local\nelections in the South Bay seem to attract 
 fewer and fewer voters.\n\nA timely hearing held this week in the city of 
 L.A. focused needed\nattention on ways to improve voter turnout. One of the 
 possible reforms\nis instant-runoff voting, which has been successful in 
 cities like San\nFrancisco.\n\nIn most jurisdictions, one can select one 
 candidate per elected\nposition. If there are many candidates vying for one 
 or two positions,\nthat usually means a runoff election is necessary for a 
 candidate to\nsecure a majority.\n\nUnder the instant runoff system, 
 however, voters can rank candidate\npreferences (first choice, second 
 choice and so on). If a candidate wins\na majority in the first-choice 
 category, he wins outright. But if no\ncandidate wins a majority, the 
 last-place candidate is eliminated, and\nhis voters' second choices are 
 added to the tally. Gradually, less\npopular candidates are eliminated 
 until a candidate wins a majority of\npreferences.\n\nThe concept might be 
 confusing at first, but it has advantages. These\nadvantages 
 include:\n\nCost. Local agencies can spend less on elections because the 
 primary and\nrunoff occur simultaneously.\n\nDemocracy. Supporters say that 
 using preferences is more democratic\nthan, say, city council elections 
 which allow some candidates to win\nwith 25 percent pluralities - or 
 less.\n\nLess voter fatigue. Some observers suggest that so many 
 special\nelections have been held in California in recent years that voters 
 are\nstaying away from the polls. If that's true, instant runoffs 
 would\nreduce the strain and increase turnouts.\n\nMore positive campaigns. 
 The theory is that candidates would be less\ninclined to go negative in 
 order to do well in the second-choice\ncategory. So the emphasis would be 
 less on personalities and more an\nissues.\n\nWe're not saying that instant 
 runoffs are right for every jurisdiction.\nBut as Debra Bowen, the 
 secretary of state and former South Bay state\nsenator, said recently, 
 instant runoffs could be ideal in races such as\nthis month's 37th 
 Congressional District election, which has a field of\n17 
 candidates.\n\nCharter cities can now use the instant runoff system, but 
 state\nlegislation would be required to extend this choice to general 
 law\ncities and other jurisdictions. Simply put, public agencies need 
 such\noptions to improve voter turnout and to strengthen 
 democratic\ninstitutions.\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nQ&A 
 | LOCAL GOVERNMENT\nBy Steve Hymon, Times Staff Writer\n\n>From the Los 
 Angeles Times, June 18, 
 2007\n\nhttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-localgovtqa18jun18,1,6307777.sto\nry\n\n[...]\n\nHow 
 did the big discussion of instant runoff voting go in the City\nCouncil's 
 Rules and Elections Committee last Wednesday?\n\nWe teased that discussion 
 here last week, not knowing the meeting would\nturn into a three-hour-plus 
 example of what happens when you put voter\nrights activists in front of a 
 microphone - they literally can't stop\ntalking.\n\nThe result of the 
 meeting was that City Clerk Frank Martinez is going to\nspend the next six 
 months penciling a report on various ways to help\nimprove turnout and 
 reduce the cost of city elections.\n\nOn the list of items Martinez will 
 analyze are consolidating city\nelections with November general elections, 
 going to all mail-in ballots\nand instant runoff voting, among others. A 
 handful of elected officials\nhave expressed support for instant runoff, 
 but there won't be a\nmeaningful debate on the issue until next 
 year.\n\n\n------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nTo 
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