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Police Shooting in Fruitvale Bart Station Early new Years Morning
by Anonymous
Thursday Jan 1st, 2009 10:48 PM
This is copied from the Oakland Tribune website. There seem to be disparities in accounts about whether or not the victim, 22 year old Oscar Grant, was in handcuffs when he was shot. I have seen many articles today, some say there were two shots, others only one. Sound familiar?
A few weeks ago, when a fifteen year old in Greece was shot in shady circumstances by a police officer, the people took the streets for days. Let's mobilize!
Man dies in BART officer-involved shooting

By Kamika Dunlap
OAKLAND TRIBUNE
Posted: 01/01/2009 11:39:57 AM PST
Updated: 01/01/2009 10:47:38 PM PST

OAKLAND — A man died after a BART officer-involved shooting early Thursday at the Fruitvale station, authorities said.
The man was identified by his family and authorities as Oscar Grant, 22.
The shooting occurred about 2:15 a.m. on the platform where a Dublin-Pleasanton train from San Francisco had stopped, BART spokesman Jim Allison said.
He said reports came in about 2 a.m. that two groups of riders were involved in an altercation on the train as it left the West Oakland Station.
Five BART police officers patrolling the Fruitvale station responded to the call when the train pulled into the station. Police separated the arguing parties, removed them from the train and detained them.
During that process, an officer's gun discharged, wounding Grant, authorities said. BART's preliminary investigation indicates that Grant was not handcuffed at the time, authorities said.
Grant was taken to Highland Hospital Oakland, where he died later Thursday morning. His place of residence was not released.
In addition to the BART police investigation, the Alameda County District Attorney's Office will conduct an independent probe, authorities said.
The officer involved in the shooting was not identified. He underwent drug and alcohol testing and has been placed on administrative leave, as is standard procedure, BART officials said.
The Fruitvale station was closed until about 2:50 a.m. because of police activity.
BART police are seeking the public's help as they continue to investigate.
Anyone with information about the incident is asked to call 877-679-7000, Ext. 7040.
WHEN WILL THERE BE A LARGE RALLY & MARCH TO COMMEMORATE THE SHOOTING AND DEATH OF OSCAR GRANT?

Had this been the other way around where the boy shot and killed the officer in the back while his friends had him pinned down to the ground, he'd be sitting in Santa Rita along with the rest of his friends waiting to be put on death row. Where is the officer who publicly executed this boy? I haven’t heard any word of his arrest!

It just goes to show that there is no American justice, only favoritism and double standards in American society. Here we have several video's at different angles where the police have the boy subdued lying flat on his stomach with 2 officers on top of him when a 3rd cop standing behind him draws his gun for no apparent reason and blasts him away.

All of this is on video and the media is asking questions as to whether or not this was an accident or justified. What the hell is wrong with the mainstream media today and why hasn’t anybody expressed any outrage over this? Should we just allow the media to side with the police every time they brutalize or murder someone? When is enough going to be enough?

When someone kills a police officer, do the media ever voice their concern as to whether it was an accident or if it was justified? Ask your self these questions and you will see whose side they are really on. There would have been no questions asked accept to demand the boy be locked up and given the harshest punishment of the law; the “Death Penalty”. These are the injustices of the American system.

And what about the cell phones the police had confiscated from the witnesses at the scene of the crime? Those all had evidence on them and they took it away to try and cover up the murder. That's conspiracy to conceal evidence. They are obstructing justice and should be put on trial for enabling the gunman to get away with murder. By a chance of luck the police weren't able to confiscate everyone’s camera. A very heroic Union City girl came forth with footage of her own showing the dark side of the law THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO SEE!

Judging from the video this is no other than a “PUBLIC EXECUTION”; video that could be used as evidence to prosecute anybody else that had committed the same crime. But will it stand as evidence to be used against a cop? If not then why do we have a justice system? We may as well throw it out if fails us this time. Most criminals would love to get the same pat on the wrist but only the government is allowed to commit crimes in the name of security, protection, and service and be allowed to get away with it.

Where is all the public outrage right now? We must break our silence by standing up and to demand that this cop have a trial of his own just like every other human being. “No More Double Standards & No More Special Treatment for Police!

by Stephany
( the_devils_birthday_cake [at] hotmail.com ) Sunday Jan 4th, 2009 9:14 PM
Anybody going to gather up some thousand people and show their outrage?
by patience
Monday Jan 5th, 2009 5:26 PM
The investigation is still on going, there's nothing to be outraged about with the government unless the officer is not properly charged.

There's no perfection in anything, shit is going to happen, cops are human just like anyone else, which means there'll be bad apples.

No matter what policies are put in place, it's going to happen, the most can hope for is that it will be responded to properly.
by Eric
Tuesday Jan 6th, 2009 9:05 AM
WHAT??

"Outrage at what" you say! Well, at least everyone else here is with me. That makes me feel a lot better. It's also inevitable that at least one out of 10 people like your self will respond with dumb comments as the 1 you did.

Your reply is screaming with the same kind of apathy that does no other than perpetuate the same violence all across the globe. Yes human beings are capable of great sins, duh! Did you know waiting to do absolutely nothing is considered to be another form of violence? Are you excusing this despicable piece of shit for a human being, following just like the rest of society always does?

Your mind must have been completely desensitized to all the horrible things that go on in our world today. You’re failure to react, inaction, or lack of enthusiasm to fight against police violence is pre-conditioned. You must have the mind of a slave who has been so institutionalized by society that he won’t even accept freedom if it were fought for and won.

A new reality of hopes and dreams too alien for you to handle, perhaps? "But we must wait for an officer’s trial to show how little we care about what the judge’s decision will be." In other words let’s just give the executioner a chance to go home and be with his family. He's a human being even though the other human being won't get to see his daughter or family EVER AGAIN! I hope you’re not a cop sympathizer or a cop your self?

Our voices are only meant for one thing, JUSTICE! We've got to at least try to influence the judge’s decision. That’s why it is so important to come out now. I'm not really for the death penalty but I think this man should rot in prison for the rest of his life. And don’t think that is harsh at all. Do you think just because he’s a cop we should go easy? If it were the cop who was dead right now I'm sure you know where Oscar Grant would be. Sorry but your comment really pissed me off!


I’m sure if you look deep down in side your conscience you will come to the same conclusion one day. SILENCE IS DEAFENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by dIRT
Tuesday Jan 6th, 2009 1:13 PM
"Outrage at what?
by patience
Monday Jan 5th, 2009 5:26 PM
The investigation is still on going, there's nothing to be outraged about with the government unless the officer is not properly charged.

There's no perfection in anything, shit is going to happen, cops are human just like anyone else, which means there'll be bad apples.

No matter what policies are put in place, it's going to happen, the most can hope for is that it will be responded to properly."
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Why don't you show up at the 3pm protest in fruitvale and repeat what you just said above^ hahahahahahahaha
by lolwut
Wednesday Jan 7th, 2009 11:02 AM
"This is copied from the Oakland Tribune website. There seem to be disparities in accounts about whether or not the victim, 22 year old Oscar Grant, was in handcuffs when he was shot. I have seen many articles today, some say there were two shots, others only one."

Okay. Taking to the streets and protesting something that isn't entirely clear lacks a certain rationality. Jumping to conclusions? Before you people run off with your pitch forks, swept up by whatever it is that's motivating you, I think it would be a good idea to try to get as much information as possible and from different angles. Your expended energy would clarity of vision otherwise.