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Animal Liberation Front Rescues 20 Rabbits in South Carolina
Return Visit Promised to Blue Chip Farms, Raising Rabbits for Their Meat
For Immediate Release
February 22, 2007
Contact: Linda Greene
(818) 445-6711
*Fountain Inn, SC: *In an anonymous communique received by the North American Animal Liberation Press Office, activists from the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) claim to have rescued 20 rabbits destined for slaughter at Blue Chip Farms, 268 Hill Top Drive in Fountain Inn. Return visits were promised if the farm did not stop killing rabbits. Photographs of the activists and rescued rabbits were included with the communique, and are posted on the Press Office website at http://www.animalliberationpressoffice.org/communiques/2007-02-20_bluechiprabbits.htm.
Since 1982, Dean and Arlene Goforth have made a business of raising and killing rabbits to sell their meat. Their website proudly proclaims "America's #1 Package of Rabbit Meat"; photos on the site depict rabbits in small cages, where presumably they spend the entirety of their short lives before being slaughtered. They are killed at 7 to 8 weeks of age.
The communique received by the Press Office reads, in part:
/*The ALF struck the Blue Chip Farm Inc. in Fountain Inn, SC after giving warning of impending action due to failure to cease and desist the slaughter of rabbits for food and fur. 20 rabbits were freed with 4 rabbits taken to be placed in homes. The ALF regrets not being able to save them all but still sees last night as a victory.**
*/Press Officer Linda Greene remarks: "It looks like some people will kill anything for a profit. Thousands of rabbits are suffering and killed needlessly at the hands of callous people like the Goforths simply so they can line their pockets. Anyway, the last thing Americans, known for their obesity and high levels of heart disease and stroke, need is more animal flesh high in fat and cholesterol."/*
*/
North American Animal Liberation Press Office
(818) 932-9997
"When a person places the proper value on freedom, there is nothing under the sun that she will not do to acquire that freedom. Whenever you hear a person saying he wants freedom, but in the next breath she is going to tell you what she won't do to get it, or what he doesn't believe in doing in order to get it, he doesn't believe in freedom. A person who believes in freedom will do anything under the sun to acquire...or preserve his freedom."-- Malcolm X
February 22, 2007
Contact: Linda Greene
(818) 445-6711
*Fountain Inn, SC: *In an anonymous communique received by the North American Animal Liberation Press Office, activists from the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) claim to have rescued 20 rabbits destined for slaughter at Blue Chip Farms, 268 Hill Top Drive in Fountain Inn. Return visits were promised if the farm did not stop killing rabbits. Photographs of the activists and rescued rabbits were included with the communique, and are posted on the Press Office website at http://www.animalliberationpressoffice.org/communiques/2007-02-20_bluechiprabbits.htm.
Since 1982, Dean and Arlene Goforth have made a business of raising and killing rabbits to sell their meat. Their website proudly proclaims "America's #1 Package of Rabbit Meat"; photos on the site depict rabbits in small cages, where presumably they spend the entirety of their short lives before being slaughtered. They are killed at 7 to 8 weeks of age.
The communique received by the Press Office reads, in part:
/*The ALF struck the Blue Chip Farm Inc. in Fountain Inn, SC after giving warning of impending action due to failure to cease and desist the slaughter of rabbits for food and fur. 20 rabbits were freed with 4 rabbits taken to be placed in homes. The ALF regrets not being able to save them all but still sees last night as a victory.**
*/Press Officer Linda Greene remarks: "It looks like some people will kill anything for a profit. Thousands of rabbits are suffering and killed needlessly at the hands of callous people like the Goforths simply so they can line their pockets. Anyway, the last thing Americans, known for their obesity and high levels of heart disease and stroke, need is more animal flesh high in fat and cholesterol."/*
*/
North American Animal Liberation Press Office
(818) 932-9997
"When a person places the proper value on freedom, there is nothing under the sun that she will not do to acquire that freedom. Whenever you hear a person saying he wants freedom, but in the next breath she is going to tell you what she won't do to get it, or what he doesn't believe in doing in order to get it, he doesn't believe in freedom. A person who believes in freedom will do anything under the sun to acquire...or preserve his freedom."-- Malcolm X
For more information:
http://www.animalliberationpressoffice.org
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I know the Goforths and they are not lining their pockets as the ALF claims. They have a rabbit meat business (no fur is sold) and are just barely eeking out a living from it. Both of the Goforths are in their seventies and are good church going folks that give back to the community. The ALF raided the business of some poor farmers with little to no security system in place. Way to go. What's next, stealing seeing eye dogs from blind people.
I think most of Blue Chips rabbits are Californians. Californians are domestic rabbits and cant just be "freed" as they dont have the means to survive in the wild. Almost certainely all the rabbits that where liberated have become hawk, coyote, or feral cat food by now. Ive done business with Blue Chip farms and the rabbit population there where raised with more respect than any animal in our states numerous factory farms. Instead of being a bunch of pussys and robbing an old man I wish the assholes who did this would grow some balls and go after the local hog farms where the real torture happens.
The ALF press office has an amazing ability to deny facts, to obfuscate issues and avoid reality. The following is my conversation with Linda Greene, press officer for ALF.
Dawn wrote:
You don't actually know anything about how rabbits are raised, do you? That would explain a lot. I'm well aware that they kill them; the rabbits, however, aren't. The cages are much larger than barely bigger than their own body. And if you'd ever seen a rabbit burrow, you'd understand that rabbits do indeed like small places.
Given a choice between a quick, merciful death that I didn't see coming, and slow torture in the elements, I'd stay confined at the rabbitry!
I grew up in the country--I've seen firsthand how animals suffer when they are killed by other animals. I've seen them starved, I've seen them freezing. As a rabbit rescuer, I've certainly seen what happens to domestic rabbits when they are dumped. I've even seen recaptured mink that were dumped when ALF invaded a mink farm--poor little things. What the ALF did by dumping those poor rabbits is beyond reprehensible.
I still don't see you, or any other ALF member offering to try living by themselves in the wild. But then, it's much more comfortable to force other creatures to try to survive there, isn't it? So, go order your dinner from a nearby restaurant and turn up the heater in your cage and assure yourself that you're "doing good". Don't face the pain you'd feel if you acknowledged the real consequences of these terrorist actions perpetrated on helpless rabbits.
Animal Liberation Press Office <press [at] animalliberationpressoffice.org> wrote:
You seem to be missing some link to reality; they kill ALL the rabbits, at 8-9 weeks of age. Hundreds and thousands every year. What part don't you get? Do you eat them as well? That would explain a lot.
If you were in a tiny box barely larger than your own body (hard to imagine anyone referring to it as a home), and you were going to be killed as soon as you were fully grown, want people to lament it on the internet, or come in and get your ass out of there? IF they were released into the wild, and IF they are domesticated rabbits, then survival is unlikely, we would agree. That's a lot of IFs, but survival in the wild is still more likely than staying in the box.
Press Office
Dawn Panda wrote:
By their own admission, while they "homed" four, they "liberated" 16 more--that would translate to dumping. Like I said, if they think it's so great, why don't they try living out in the wild? They can leave their brick, wood and concrete "cages" and truly experience what they're condemning those poor abandoned animals to.
A "cage" to a rabbit most assuredly is his home--just as an apartment is home to a human. What makes you think that they are suffering? Because "you" would suffer in those circumstances? You can't apply human standards of desires to an animal with a completely different viewpoint.
Please, if you actually care about animals, quit torturing them and learn what THEY actually prefer. They don't have human likes and dislikes, and if these morons would bother to learn that, they could actually work for animal WELFARE. Frankly, these idiots kill more animals in their "releases" than the farms ever do.
Animal Liberation Press Office <press [at] animalliberationpressoffice.org> wrote:
Really? Homes? Tiny cages where they suffer until being murdered at 8-9 weeks of age? At least some of them, and perhaps all of them, were homed with people who will care for them. Do something useful and stop criticizing others doing what needs to be done.
Press Office
Dawn Panda wrote:
I just want to congratulate ALF for perpetrating one of the most horrendous acts of animal cruelty imaginable. Taking poor little rabbits out of their homes and dumping them to fend for themselves is tantamount to slow torture. Slaughter is instant--painless and lacking cause for fear. Starving, freezing and being eaten alive by wild animals is excruciating.
Domestic rabbits CAN'T fend for themselves. I'd love to see ALF members "liberated" from their homes and dumped naked and defenseless in the cruel wilderness. They really should try it before they condemn innocent animals to it.
These morons aren't animal lovers--they're people haters.
Dawn
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Dawn wrote:
You don't actually know anything about how rabbits are raised, do you? That would explain a lot. I'm well aware that they kill them; the rabbits, however, aren't. The cages are much larger than barely bigger than their own body. And if you'd ever seen a rabbit burrow, you'd understand that rabbits do indeed like small places.
Given a choice between a quick, merciful death that I didn't see coming, and slow torture in the elements, I'd stay confined at the rabbitry!
I grew up in the country--I've seen firsthand how animals suffer when they are killed by other animals. I've seen them starved, I've seen them freezing. As a rabbit rescuer, I've certainly seen what happens to domestic rabbits when they are dumped. I've even seen recaptured mink that were dumped when ALF invaded a mink farm--poor little things. What the ALF did by dumping those poor rabbits is beyond reprehensible.
I still don't see you, or any other ALF member offering to try living by themselves in the wild. But then, it's much more comfortable to force other creatures to try to survive there, isn't it? So, go order your dinner from a nearby restaurant and turn up the heater in your cage and assure yourself that you're "doing good". Don't face the pain you'd feel if you acknowledged the real consequences of these terrorist actions perpetrated on helpless rabbits.
Animal Liberation Press Office <press [at] animalliberationpressoffice.org> wrote:
You seem to be missing some link to reality; they kill ALL the rabbits, at 8-9 weeks of age. Hundreds and thousands every year. What part don't you get? Do you eat them as well? That would explain a lot.
If you were in a tiny box barely larger than your own body (hard to imagine anyone referring to it as a home), and you were going to be killed as soon as you were fully grown, want people to lament it on the internet, or come in and get your ass out of there? IF they were released into the wild, and IF they are domesticated rabbits, then survival is unlikely, we would agree. That's a lot of IFs, but survival in the wild is still more likely than staying in the box.
Press Office
Dawn Panda wrote:
By their own admission, while they "homed" four, they "liberated" 16 more--that would translate to dumping. Like I said, if they think it's so great, why don't they try living out in the wild? They can leave their brick, wood and concrete "cages" and truly experience what they're condemning those poor abandoned animals to.
A "cage" to a rabbit most assuredly is his home--just as an apartment is home to a human. What makes you think that they are suffering? Because "you" would suffer in those circumstances? You can't apply human standards of desires to an animal with a completely different viewpoint.
Please, if you actually care about animals, quit torturing them and learn what THEY actually prefer. They don't have human likes and dislikes, and if these morons would bother to learn that, they could actually work for animal WELFARE. Frankly, these idiots kill more animals in their "releases" than the farms ever do.
Animal Liberation Press Office <press [at] animalliberationpressoffice.org> wrote:
Really? Homes? Tiny cages where they suffer until being murdered at 8-9 weeks of age? At least some of them, and perhaps all of them, were homed with people who will care for them. Do something useful and stop criticizing others doing what needs to be done.
Press Office
Dawn Panda wrote:
I just want to congratulate ALF for perpetrating one of the most horrendous acts of animal cruelty imaginable. Taking poor little rabbits out of their homes and dumping them to fend for themselves is tantamount to slow torture. Slaughter is instant--painless and lacking cause for fear. Starving, freezing and being eaten alive by wild animals is excruciating.
Domestic rabbits CAN'T fend for themselves. I'd love to see ALF members "liberated" from their homes and dumped naked and defenseless in the cruel wilderness. They really should try it before they condemn innocent animals to it.
These morons aren't animal lovers--they're people haters.
Dawn
Fluff N Furr Angora--a REAL animal lover
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I keep seeing 'tiny cages' and 'boxes hardly bigger than one's own body' being mentioned by Ms. Greene.
Have you ever SEEN a rabbit in a commercial setting? Bet not.
Rabbits and their offspring are raised in the most humane of fashions, given FAR more space than most poultry (which seems to be the favorite comparison used). Tiny cages, no. Not even close.
Rabbits are the cleanest and best-kept of the meat species we use today, and have the most stringent requirements for good production--in other words, if they aren't doing well in the conditions given, you don't get offspring!
The rabbits do not know what's coming; they are simply handled once again by someone they know and then poof--no more. So they don't live 'lives of fear and apprehension' or any of the rest of that bullmanure. Anthropomorphism is not a useful tool here!
An experience with 'animal lovers' that speaks volumes....
They objected to raising rabbits for meat and show (and the breeder used the fur, too--no waste!). So one day, they snuck in, opened every cage, and took off.
Not one rabbit left the property. They were too busy breeding--those that actually left their cages or were removed, that is. This was early summer, and the breeder had had no plans for further breeding--too hard on the does in summer heat--but a month later in temps of 100F, they had some FIFTY SEVEN litters with an average litter size of nine.....(that's about 500 youngsters, if your math is rusty).
And every single offspring had to go for meat, because the sire was unknown. Now, was that bright of those 'animal lovers' or what? Sure helped the breeder's income....
Oh! Someone just asked, 'how did they catch them all again'? Easy.
The breeder called them, and they came running. All that was needed was to pick them up and put them back in their cages.
Yep, those rabbit were really unhappy with their conditions....
Have you ever SEEN a rabbit in a commercial setting? Bet not.
Rabbits and their offspring are raised in the most humane of fashions, given FAR more space than most poultry (which seems to be the favorite comparison used). Tiny cages, no. Not even close.
Rabbits are the cleanest and best-kept of the meat species we use today, and have the most stringent requirements for good production--in other words, if they aren't doing well in the conditions given, you don't get offspring!
The rabbits do not know what's coming; they are simply handled once again by someone they know and then poof--no more. So they don't live 'lives of fear and apprehension' or any of the rest of that bullmanure. Anthropomorphism is not a useful tool here!
An experience with 'animal lovers' that speaks volumes....
They objected to raising rabbits for meat and show (and the breeder used the fur, too--no waste!). So one day, they snuck in, opened every cage, and took off.
Not one rabbit left the property. They were too busy breeding--those that actually left their cages or were removed, that is. This was early summer, and the breeder had had no plans for further breeding--too hard on the does in summer heat--but a month later in temps of 100F, they had some FIFTY SEVEN litters with an average litter size of nine.....(that's about 500 youngsters, if your math is rusty).
And every single offspring had to go for meat, because the sire was unknown. Now, was that bright of those 'animal lovers' or what? Sure helped the breeder's income....
Oh! Someone just asked, 'how did they catch them all again'? Easy.
The breeder called them, and they came running. All that was needed was to pick them up and put them back in their cages.
Yep, those rabbit were really unhappy with their conditions....
It seems that these people do little or no research before acting. All known domesticated and created rabbit breeds, are originally derived from the European Wild Rabbit that originated in Spain. This animal lives in a burrow, that is only just large enough to let the animal get through, with a nest chamber at the end, just large enough to turn around in. That is a hell of a lot smaller area than a standard rabbit cage. Give one of these animals, too large an area to defend and they will become very stressed and not feed properly, causing loss of condition, malnutrition and death. Freeing animals that come from this background and releasing them into the wild is not only criminal animal neglect and cruelty, but also potentially an environmental disaster of almost Biblical proportions. One only has to look at the time and money that Australia has to spend on biological and chemical control of Feral Rabbits every year.
What's cruel is that rabbits can't climb, so they can't get back into their cages to their nest and water and food. If they could get back home, they would. This was nothing but an act of cruelty.
I raise rabbits for meat. I deeply love my little heard. They are all housed in good-sized hutches, with clean water, and ample food available at all times. They are held, loved, and stroked daily. When a rabbit gets out of it’s hutch, it just hangs out below, trying to figure out how to get back home!
Any offspring not sold as pets, (the proceeds of said sale goes to their care and feeding), are quickly and painlessly killed, while being held in warm loving arms. The meat from these rabbits is feed to my family, and our dogs, which have been rescued from abusive and neglectful homes.
The compost from the rabbit droppings goes into out garden, to feed the veggies that our family, and rabbits eat.
This life we have built with a lot of hard and focused work, is what I call freedom. True freedom means working 12 hours a day, to provide yourself and your family the ability to live in balance and harmony with all living things. This is wisdom. All things die. All of us mammals eat. Even if you live as a vegetarian, you must kill a plant to eat. And even you will die. Is this really the hill you want to die on, because I will defend my home and my family to the death? (Mine or yours)
Living selflessly means getting up at any hour of the night, to check on the baby’s fever, run out to the barn and check on the does to see if she has kindled, and find out if she is well, and the kits are warm and safe. Then have dinner on the table for your good, hard workingman, when he comes in at the end of the day. It means having undying patience to joyfully look at a crayon drawing, even though you have only had 3 hours sleep in the last 3 days.
From everything I have seen of your ARA group, you are selfish young people, narcissistically making yourself *feel superior to everyone else because you have risen above the need to do something so barbaric as kill or eat meat. Yet, in the pictures posted of your “freed” rabbit, you sit with a hood on, in what is most likely your Mother and Fathers bathroom, to proudly take a anonymous picture and post it on the web, using the computer your parents bought for you. You have no education, because the simplest facts regarding the nutritional components of rabbit meat are wrong. You over exaggerated the number of rabbits “freed” to boot your false ego. In other words, you lie. You lie to each other, you lie to others, and you lie to yourselves about yourselves.
Now, please make an honest self assesment about your motives, and leave this decent family alone.
Any offspring not sold as pets, (the proceeds of said sale goes to their care and feeding), are quickly and painlessly killed, while being held in warm loving arms. The meat from these rabbits is feed to my family, and our dogs, which have been rescued from abusive and neglectful homes.
The compost from the rabbit droppings goes into out garden, to feed the veggies that our family, and rabbits eat.
This life we have built with a lot of hard and focused work, is what I call freedom. True freedom means working 12 hours a day, to provide yourself and your family the ability to live in balance and harmony with all living things. This is wisdom. All things die. All of us mammals eat. Even if you live as a vegetarian, you must kill a plant to eat. And even you will die. Is this really the hill you want to die on, because I will defend my home and my family to the death? (Mine or yours)
Living selflessly means getting up at any hour of the night, to check on the baby’s fever, run out to the barn and check on the does to see if she has kindled, and find out if she is well, and the kits are warm and safe. Then have dinner on the table for your good, hard workingman, when he comes in at the end of the day. It means having undying patience to joyfully look at a crayon drawing, even though you have only had 3 hours sleep in the last 3 days.
From everything I have seen of your ARA group, you are selfish young people, narcissistically making yourself *feel superior to everyone else because you have risen above the need to do something so barbaric as kill or eat meat. Yet, in the pictures posted of your “freed” rabbit, you sit with a hood on, in what is most likely your Mother and Fathers bathroom, to proudly take a anonymous picture and post it on the web, using the computer your parents bought for you. You have no education, because the simplest facts regarding the nutritional components of rabbit meat are wrong. You over exaggerated the number of rabbits “freed” to boot your false ego. In other words, you lie. You lie to each other, you lie to others, and you lie to yourselves about yourselves.
Now, please make an honest self assesment about your motives, and leave this decent family alone.
The ALF said they are coming back and with their history I'm pretty sure they will. They come by night so as avoid confrontation. The ALF believes in respecting and protecting all life, including yours. You can shoot at them but they won't shoot back. They're here to preserve life, not end it. I feel very sorry for the like of your sort. You live in your own little world, concerned with nothing but what affects you. Eventually you will evolve past your present pitiful existence, your eyes will be opened and you will grieve all the innocent life that you helped end. Maybe not in this lifetime but eventually you will catch up. We'll be here with open arms, greeting you into a cruelty-free lifestyle.
Seems to be the activists are no longer connected to the food chain. Humans have eaten meat for thousands of years.
For a handful of people to decide that no one will eat meat anymore is not only aint-democratic, it's ludicrous and in direct contradiction to the human condition.
Is it any wonder they lash out violently? Their "no meat" philosophy is in conflict with reality. They stare out at the real world and wonder why it doesn't line up with their artificial construct of the world.
They try to deny reality. And when reality doesn't bend for them, they lash out like little children.
If they really had something wonderful to share, they would be trying to educate through peaceful means, instead of terrorist tactics.
The Flower Children were much better at selling vegetarianism.
Have a good day!
Franco
For a handful of people to decide that no one will eat meat anymore is not only aint-democratic, it's ludicrous and in direct contradiction to the human condition.
Is it any wonder they lash out violently? Their "no meat" philosophy is in conflict with reality. They stare out at the real world and wonder why it doesn't line up with their artificial construct of the world.
They try to deny reality. And when reality doesn't bend for them, they lash out like little children.
If they really had something wonderful to share, they would be trying to educate through peaceful means, instead of terrorist tactics.
The Flower Children were much better at selling vegetarianism.
Have a good day!
Franco
Just wanted to counter the frequent critiques of ALF's recent actions at the SC rabbit farm with some other ideas. Though i'm not a true animal rights activist, in many respects we share enough common ground to get along quite well..
My focus is on any caged animal being deprived of freedom. This isn't identical to people hunting free range rabbits in the wilderness for food and survival. The cage deprives the rabbit of freedom to run, something rabbits do for fun and survival. Comparing this square metal cage to a smoothly contoured underground burrow that the rabbit can leave or return to at will is not accurate either. Domestication of a wild animal to a state of permanent dependency and learned helplessness isn't the most ethical trait to be proud of either..
Whether rabbits, birds, pigs or cattle, any caged animal that is deprived of their freedom is unhappy and being mistreated. In addition, the factory farms in their most severe example (ie., Smithfield Farms) are exploiting their workers, the ecosystem and the animals by their for-profit methods of raising animals..
Here is a worker's perspective on the nightmarish speed at which the Smithfield pork plant operates under;
"Keith Ludlum, who has worked the livestock line at the Tar Heel plant since July, and also worked there for seven months in 1994 before being fired for pro-union activity, described his workday in an interview.
“Those of us in livestock report to work at a quarter to six and get started running hogs up into the kill floor of the plant,” he said. “Of course, livestock is extremely messy, and it’s made even worse because they’ve got drains in the pen area and where the hogs are stored at, which they refuse to unclog.
“So you get a pool of hog feces and urine and water building up, and that gets splashed on you when you’re running the hogs up into the plant...There’s constantly people getting hurt there. Every day, there are people getting hurt all over the plant.”
The pace on the kill and cut floors is incredibly fast. In 1999, during an unfair labor practices trial, one Tar Heel plant manager testified that from the point at which a hog is first “stuck,” or bled, to the point that its hair and viscera are completely removed, the fat pulled from its carcass and the animal flash-frozen is “between 5 and 10 minutes, depending on if [the line] was backed up.” The remaining work of removing the skin and dismembering the animal into hams, loins, ribs and other cuts takes place in just five or six minutes more.
As Lance Compa and Jamie Fellner of Human Rights Watch wrote in an editorial last year, “‘Faster, faster, get that product out the door!’ is the industry byword. The results are cuts, amputations, skin disease, permanent arm and shoulder damage, and even death from the force of repeated hard cutting motions. When injured employees seek workers' compensation claims for their injuries, they are told, ‘You got hurt at home, not on the job.’”
One Smithfield worker described the brutal pace of work in an interview with Human Rights Watch in 2003: “The line is so fast that there is no time to sharpen the knife. The knife gets dull, and you have to cut harder. That’s when it really starts to hurt, and that’s when you cut yourself."
read on @;
http://www.socialistworker.org/2006-2/613/613_08_Smithfield.shtml
Yes, an ALF hit on Smithfield would be better recieved by the public than an obscure rabbit farm. Maybe their reasoning for saving the rabbits is that their story isn't heard, and an action like this will amplify their plight. We don't know the actual conditions at the rabbit farm either, so the 'mom & pop rabbit shop' story may lack evidence also..
The price of the fast paced Smithfield slaughterhouse is injured workers, mistreated animals and a toxic ecosystem from the sludge pens. What are some benefits of ALF networking with workers to stage a work slow down and consumer boicott? If the rights of workers are honored, then would a slower paced assembly line reduce the suffering of animals? Can workers advocate for a cage free pork worker's co-op instead of factory farm along with ALF? How could the tactics of ALF match up with union organizing? This isn't easy as there are many differences of opinions in tactics, though this presents a great chance for animal rights actions to support worker's rights..
In addition workers themselves need to take some responsibility for their actions. Regardless of where people are coming from or how desperate their economic situation, does this justify working in any job that presents an opening? When does looking away from a helpless animal's degradation and suffering become too great a challenge for the ethics of the workers??
Can ALF activists promote sustainable alternatives to factory farming without being considered 'sell-outs' by their peers? Is there such a thing as certified humane animal husbandry? If workers could choose an alternative certified humane animal husbandry job, would they walk away from the cruelty of Smithfield's factory farms? Can certified humane animal husbandry evolve into permaculture by using animal wastes as composted fertilizer for plants?? (ie., NO run-off of nitrates into regional rios!!)
Permaculture and humane certifications may help bring down the horrors of factory farm abuse for good. When people realize the health risks of eating factory farmed animals is a direct result of the animal's treatment from birth til slaughter, a demand for humane treatment of animals will force change on the factory farms or drive them out of business. Hormones, antibiotics and lack of companionship, love and freedom all impact the health of the animal being consumed. Really, you are what you eat! Why not visit with the farm where your animals are raised and witness their conditions firsthand? Getting to know your local farmers is an important step towards achieving food sovereignty!!
some state by state options for better treatment of animals;
http://www.eatwild.com/products/nocarolina.html
Of course the ALF using some creative vandalism against a factory farm like Smithfield would only quicken this process..
Eco-labels;
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_2322.cfm
If promoting grass-fed and humane certified animal products seems like selling-out to strict vegans, maybe looking at the lesser evil options to protest in the future can help remove the worst evils (ie., factory farms like Smithfield) from the Earth for good..
Best wishes on a concensus based dialogue..
your friend,
jackrabbit
My focus is on any caged animal being deprived of freedom. This isn't identical to people hunting free range rabbits in the wilderness for food and survival. The cage deprives the rabbit of freedom to run, something rabbits do for fun and survival. Comparing this square metal cage to a smoothly contoured underground burrow that the rabbit can leave or return to at will is not accurate either. Domestication of a wild animal to a state of permanent dependency and learned helplessness isn't the most ethical trait to be proud of either..
Whether rabbits, birds, pigs or cattle, any caged animal that is deprived of their freedom is unhappy and being mistreated. In addition, the factory farms in their most severe example (ie., Smithfield Farms) are exploiting their workers, the ecosystem and the animals by their for-profit methods of raising animals..
Here is a worker's perspective on the nightmarish speed at which the Smithfield pork plant operates under;
"Keith Ludlum, who has worked the livestock line at the Tar Heel plant since July, and also worked there for seven months in 1994 before being fired for pro-union activity, described his workday in an interview.
“Those of us in livestock report to work at a quarter to six and get started running hogs up into the kill floor of the plant,” he said. “Of course, livestock is extremely messy, and it’s made even worse because they’ve got drains in the pen area and where the hogs are stored at, which they refuse to unclog.
“So you get a pool of hog feces and urine and water building up, and that gets splashed on you when you’re running the hogs up into the plant...There’s constantly people getting hurt there. Every day, there are people getting hurt all over the plant.”
The pace on the kill and cut floors is incredibly fast. In 1999, during an unfair labor practices trial, one Tar Heel plant manager testified that from the point at which a hog is first “stuck,” or bled, to the point that its hair and viscera are completely removed, the fat pulled from its carcass and the animal flash-frozen is “between 5 and 10 minutes, depending on if [the line] was backed up.” The remaining work of removing the skin and dismembering the animal into hams, loins, ribs and other cuts takes place in just five or six minutes more.
As Lance Compa and Jamie Fellner of Human Rights Watch wrote in an editorial last year, “‘Faster, faster, get that product out the door!’ is the industry byword. The results are cuts, amputations, skin disease, permanent arm and shoulder damage, and even death from the force of repeated hard cutting motions. When injured employees seek workers' compensation claims for their injuries, they are told, ‘You got hurt at home, not on the job.’”
One Smithfield worker described the brutal pace of work in an interview with Human Rights Watch in 2003: “The line is so fast that there is no time to sharpen the knife. The knife gets dull, and you have to cut harder. That’s when it really starts to hurt, and that’s when you cut yourself."
read on @;
http://www.socialistworker.org/2006-2/613/613_08_Smithfield.shtml
Yes, an ALF hit on Smithfield would be better recieved by the public than an obscure rabbit farm. Maybe their reasoning for saving the rabbits is that their story isn't heard, and an action like this will amplify their plight. We don't know the actual conditions at the rabbit farm either, so the 'mom & pop rabbit shop' story may lack evidence also..
The price of the fast paced Smithfield slaughterhouse is injured workers, mistreated animals and a toxic ecosystem from the sludge pens. What are some benefits of ALF networking with workers to stage a work slow down and consumer boicott? If the rights of workers are honored, then would a slower paced assembly line reduce the suffering of animals? Can workers advocate for a cage free pork worker's co-op instead of factory farm along with ALF? How could the tactics of ALF match up with union organizing? This isn't easy as there are many differences of opinions in tactics, though this presents a great chance for animal rights actions to support worker's rights..
In addition workers themselves need to take some responsibility for their actions. Regardless of where people are coming from or how desperate their economic situation, does this justify working in any job that presents an opening? When does looking away from a helpless animal's degradation and suffering become too great a challenge for the ethics of the workers??
Can ALF activists promote sustainable alternatives to factory farming without being considered 'sell-outs' by their peers? Is there such a thing as certified humane animal husbandry? If workers could choose an alternative certified humane animal husbandry job, would they walk away from the cruelty of Smithfield's factory farms? Can certified humane animal husbandry evolve into permaculture by using animal wastes as composted fertilizer for plants?? (ie., NO run-off of nitrates into regional rios!!)
Permaculture and humane certifications may help bring down the horrors of factory farm abuse for good. When people realize the health risks of eating factory farmed animals is a direct result of the animal's treatment from birth til slaughter, a demand for humane treatment of animals will force change on the factory farms or drive them out of business. Hormones, antibiotics and lack of companionship, love and freedom all impact the health of the animal being consumed. Really, you are what you eat! Why not visit with the farm where your animals are raised and witness their conditions firsthand? Getting to know your local farmers is an important step towards achieving food sovereignty!!
some state by state options for better treatment of animals;
http://www.eatwild.com/products/nocarolina.html
Of course the ALF using some creative vandalism against a factory farm like Smithfield would only quicken this process..
Eco-labels;
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_2322.cfm
If promoting grass-fed and humane certified animal products seems like selling-out to strict vegans, maybe looking at the lesser evil options to protest in the future can help remove the worst evils (ie., factory farms like Smithfield) from the Earth for good..
Best wishes on a concensus based dialogue..
your friend,
jackrabbit
Many forget that vegans also require a highly complex amount of agricultural technology, shipping and supply to just provide themselves with the foods they need year around to eat.
PETA kills thousands of animals each year for no other reason than they are homeless. Why hasn't ALF gone after them?
Let me see, in the wild, 95% of all rabbits born do not make it to adulthood, most are dead by 8 weeks due to predation. So there is really nothing cruel about ending their lives at 8 weeks since in nature that would be their end. As for skinning rabbits alive, in every plant I have seen that processes rabbits, the head is removed before skinning, I am not sure how a rabbit can be alive when its head is no longer attached. I would also suspect that it would be impossible to skin a rabbit that is still alive.
in china, they skinned a rabbit while it was still alive, leaving only its eyelashes, then set it out for sale at the market for food. It suffered, most likely in excruciating pain, until it was bought and killed. It was barely recognizable. You know nothing Wallace.
they have email lists and descend like hawks onto anything any one of them picks up on that detracts from a positive spin on their "hobby" or home business of rabbits
random attacks against Peta (who have nothing to do with this story), criticizing vegetarianism, etc.
anything to make their little hobbies seem oh-so reasonable.
they'll never go away or let someone else have the last word here
random attacks against Peta (who have nothing to do with this story), criticizing vegetarianism, etc.
anything to make their little hobbies seem oh-so reasonable.
they'll never go away or let someone else have the last word here
Yes, you are right! they do. They are ALL paranoid. They live in fear that someone will break in and steal their rabbits. Not because they care about their rabbits, but because its their "right" to own these rabbits and do with them what they want. They laugh about feeding the rabbits dog food if it has a bad attitude to "teach it a lesson" and then just kill it and eat it if it doesnt fit their standards or behave the way they want it to or "pull its weight" They are a sick bunch of people. There is nothing decent about what they are doing. They have no compassion or concept of treating animals humanely... although they love to fool themselves into believing they do. Anyone who speaks out against them is a target. We are watching them. They fool noone but themselves.
Ok, so a rabbit was cruelly skinned alive in China. Make an attempt at reading comprehension, moron, this story happens to be about a rabbit farm in South Carolina in the Good Ol' US of A. Rabbits are not skinned alive here. Your story of the poor, chinese rabbit (cite some proof, perhaps? Is it listed on snopes as a real story, I wonder?) holds no water here.
Ya know, I read some scientific report stating that plants feel an analog of pain when cut, pulled up, and most likely when chewed. So, think about it-your salad is still ALIVE when you eat it, and may in fact be suffering! That story is at LEAST as credible as yours, and I wish I could remember what news agency ran the article so I could back it up for ya!
The ALA needs to be interred in Guantanamo with the rest of the lousy terrorists!
Ya know, I read some scientific report stating that plants feel an analog of pain when cut, pulled up, and most likely when chewed. So, think about it-your salad is still ALIVE when you eat it, and may in fact be suffering! That story is at LEAST as credible as yours, and I wish I could remember what news agency ran the article so I could back it up for ya!
The ALA needs to be interred in Guantanamo with the rest of the lousy terrorists!
There is a reason why God gave us animals- and that is for our own use. However, you guys are right about not being cruel to them. We are supposed to be good stewards of ALL of our animals (read Proverbs 12:10) My rabbits have a great life. They are in cages (GOOD cages, with enough room for them to stretch out in any direction) they are safe in their cages, away from dogs and other predators. They are fed pellets one time a day, with a treat of carrots or oats or bananas, dried bread, or something like that again later in the evening. They have a continous supply of fresh, clean water, and good clean hay whenever they want it. When they are old enough (which, BTW, is NOT 7 weeks, more like 10-12, hmmm shows how well informed you guys are!) they meet a quick and humane death. I agree that there are people that mistreat their animals (rabbits). They will have to answer to the Lord on judgement day for that, and try as you may, it will never be totally stopped. I don't like to see animals suffer either. However, it is not a common thing for rabbit raisers to mistreat their rabbits, as they are wanting production, and poorly-cared for rabbits are not good producers.
But really, why don't you guys quite picking on poor people like the Goforths and protest something worth protesting against (like abortion, for starters! So worried about the life of a rabbit, while there are innocent babies being murdered right here in our country. Now THAT is something to think about!)
But really, why don't you guys quite picking on poor people like the Goforths and protest something worth protesting against (like abortion, for starters! So worried about the life of a rabbit, while there are innocent babies being murdered right here in our country. Now THAT is something to think about!)
Oh yeah, and that last comment about rabbit meat being high in fat and cholesterol- NOT true!
Hey, stop killing, I've reread this thread over and over and can't find any reference to "feeding rabbits dog food when they have bad attitudes then killing and eating them". Are you based in the same reality as the rest of us, or are the voices in your head doing the typing?
I believe you might have been referring to the rabbit rancher who said they raise the animals as food for themselve and <i>their dogs</i>, but no where in that did it say anything about <i>feeding</i> dog food to rabbits (as if the herbivorous-that's a big word that means <i>eats only plants</i>, or to make it clearer for you, rabbits are hardcore vegans-critters would eat meat-based dog food anyway).
We evil animal abusing carnivores DO stick to our guns, and are hard to turn from our beliefs. Of course, it seems you vegan types are the same about YOUR beliefs. Kinda makes you a hypocrite to rag on us for being inflexible, eh? I mean, especially when SCIENCE backs us up to the hilt.
I believe you might have been referring to the rabbit rancher who said they raise the animals as food for themselve and <i>their dogs</i>, but no where in that did it say anything about <i>feeding</i> dog food to rabbits (as if the herbivorous-that's a big word that means <i>eats only plants</i>, or to make it clearer for you, rabbits are hardcore vegans-critters would eat meat-based dog food anyway).
We evil animal abusing carnivores DO stick to our guns, and are hard to turn from our beliefs. Of course, it seems you vegan types are the same about YOUR beliefs. Kinda makes you a hypocrite to rag on us for being inflexible, eh? I mean, especially when SCIENCE backs us up to the hilt.
Who's more fanatical-the rabbit breeders for defending <i>their livelihood</i> (not a hobby when your income depends on it), or the Animal Liberation Terrorists who trespass, break-and-enter and STEAL the means for another person's living?
Come to think of it, I don't recall having ever seen a fur enthusiast throw paint on a PETA member or any other fur protester for that matter.
Why is it that anyone who doesn't agree with an animal rights activist is labeled a "fanatic"?
Come to think of it, I don't recall having ever seen a fur enthusiast throw paint on a PETA member or any other fur protester for that matter.
Why is it that anyone who doesn't agree with an animal rights activist is labeled a "fanatic"?
Cite my source for the breeders feeding dog food to their rabbits? Sorry, I lurk in screcy BUT most of the people on here know exactly what that means. Its an old breeder trick. OBVIOUSLY rabbits are herbivores, thats the whole point! That is how those idiots get their rabbits to behave!
And they claim to treat them well. They eat them if they dont produce litters. they are a bunch of sickminded losers with no ability to function in the real world. I dont want to hear how you breeders treat your rabbits oh so nice before you kill them. big deal, a carrot andsome stretching room. You still kill them. And the idiot who uses god as an excuse to kill is pathetic. God made animals before he made humans and he in no way intended us to kill them and eat them, you people are just looking for excuses. Its a sin in the bible to kill animals, but for the religious they will find that out when they meet their maker. Dominion means to protect not lord over. You all sound like a bunch of uneducated mountain people wholive under rocks. And for the religious crackpot going on about abortion. Sorry, I strongly believe in abortion. I do not however believe in killing animals. There are too many people in the world, and not enough decent ones as all of you people prove. And to the fruitcake who said that rabbits are not skinned alive in the united states. You obviously know very little. Ask the Goforths... they do quite alot of skinning apparently. They may not admit it, but they do. You people are either ignorant or just turn a blind eye. Why do people want to take away your means to an income? because you are lazy, thats why. Go get a real job, one that doesnt involve using an animal as a means to survive. can you do that? obviously not. you take the easy way out because you are weak. you want us to respect that? not gonna happen. Get an education and leave the animals alone. You people are angry because you have no other way to get through life, so you buy a couple of rabbits, breed them, rebreed them and live off of them. What a bunch of pathetic morons. How hard is that!?? it shows your mentality level, and its not high! dont be angry at us, be angry at yourselves because you failed so miserably. oh, we know, you already are - thats why there is so much hatred on this board against the people that care about the animals. open books, ALL of you!
And they claim to treat them well. They eat them if they dont produce litters. they are a bunch of sickminded losers with no ability to function in the real world. I dont want to hear how you breeders treat your rabbits oh so nice before you kill them. big deal, a carrot andsome stretching room. You still kill them. And the idiot who uses god as an excuse to kill is pathetic. God made animals before he made humans and he in no way intended us to kill them and eat them, you people are just looking for excuses. Its a sin in the bible to kill animals, but for the religious they will find that out when they meet their maker. Dominion means to protect not lord over. You all sound like a bunch of uneducated mountain people wholive under rocks. And for the religious crackpot going on about abortion. Sorry, I strongly believe in abortion. I do not however believe in killing animals. There are too many people in the world, and not enough decent ones as all of you people prove. And to the fruitcake who said that rabbits are not skinned alive in the united states. You obviously know very little. Ask the Goforths... they do quite alot of skinning apparently. They may not admit it, but they do. You people are either ignorant or just turn a blind eye. Why do people want to take away your means to an income? because you are lazy, thats why. Go get a real job, one that doesnt involve using an animal as a means to survive. can you do that? obviously not. you take the easy way out because you are weak. you want us to respect that? not gonna happen. Get an education and leave the animals alone. You people are angry because you have no other way to get through life, so you buy a couple of rabbits, breed them, rebreed them and live off of them. What a bunch of pathetic morons. How hard is that!?? it shows your mentality level, and its not high! dont be angry at us, be angry at yourselves because you failed so miserably. oh, we know, you already are - thats why there is so much hatred on this board against the people that care about the animals. open books, ALL of you!
>>Hey, stop killing, I've reread this thread over and over and can't find any reference to "feeding rabbits dog food when they have bad attitudes then killing and eating them". Are you based in the same reality as the rest of us, or are the voices in your head doing the typing? >>>
I just had to respond to this twice since it was so oddly amusing... You really wasted your time re-reading this thread over and over looking for that reference, didnt you? it makes me chuckle out loud picturing that, must have been quite frustrating for you! just curious why you would think that I would only repeat something from this board? do you think I dont know whats going on in the real world and what these sicko breeders do? There are plenty of people who are posting on this board that know exactly where that reference comes from... they feed their rabbits dog food for a couple days to teach it a lesson if its grumpy. If it has a nasty attitude, as they say - they kill it and eat it! Now, those voices in my head are calling me away because I have a life and you obviously dont, BUT it does sound like you have anger issues, might want to get some therapy for that before you hurt someone.... or do you just take it out on innocent animals??
I just had to respond to this twice since it was so oddly amusing... You really wasted your time re-reading this thread over and over looking for that reference, didnt you? it makes me chuckle out loud picturing that, must have been quite frustrating for you! just curious why you would think that I would only repeat something from this board? do you think I dont know whats going on in the real world and what these sicko breeders do? There are plenty of people who are posting on this board that know exactly where that reference comes from... they feed their rabbits dog food for a couple days to teach it a lesson if its grumpy. If it has a nasty attitude, as they say - they kill it and eat it! Now, those voices in my head are calling me away because I have a life and you obviously dont, BUT it does sound like you have anger issues, might want to get some therapy for that before you hurt someone.... or do you just take it out on innocent animals??
“Stop Killing Animals”.. AKA “piss off” AKA… Stephen… writes…
“Sorry, I lurk in screcy BUT most of the people on here know exactly what that means.”
“There are plenty of people who are posting on this board that know exactly where that reference comes from... they feed their rabbits dog food for a couple days to teach it a lesson if its grumpy.”
“They laugh about feeding the rabbits dog food if it has a bad attitude to "teach it a lesson" and then just kill it and eat it if it doesnt fit their standards or behave the way they want it to or "pull its weight"
“And for the religious crackpot going on about abortion. Sorry, I strongly believe in abortion. I do not however believe in killing animals. There are too many people in the world, and not enough decent ones as all of you people prove.”
The following is a checklist that summarizes the psychological characteristics indicative of a psychopathic, or sociopathic, personality.
*The lack of emotional intelligence is the first good sign you may be dealing with a psychopath.
*They generally deny any responsibility for their behavior and easily place the blame on others
* Lack of formal-operational thinking (tends to think in concrete, black-or-white terms)
*No self-insight (doesn’t reflect much upon own personality makeup)
*No self-humor (can’t stand to be butt of jokes or can’t laugh at self)
*A fairly high IQ (often disparity in ability and achievement)
*Pathological lying (for no reason at all, can’t help self)
*Holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs, foreigners, etc - prejudiced people are unvaryingly unimaginative) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial aspect of their personality secret
*Attention seeking is often criminal, but like a “fire starter” has to let someone know how cleaver they were to start the fire, or at the very least has the need to hang around to watch.
* Is self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of entitlement and sense of invulnerability and untouchability
* Shows a lack of joined-up thinking with conversation that doesn't flow and arguments that don't hold water
* Refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer
* Is evasive and has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability
*Often has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the sociopath sees nothing wrong with their behavior and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others
*Often fraudulently claims qualifications, experience, titles, entitlements or affiliations which are ambiguous, misleading, or bogus
*Often misses the semantic meaning of language, misinterprets what is said, sometimes wrongly thinking that comments of a satirical, ironic or general negative nature apply to him or herself
*Knows the words but not the song
*Sometimes displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged in attention-seeking activities
*Gains gratification from provoking people into emotional or irrational responses but is quick to claim provocation by others when challenged
* Is often like a child who has never grown up
“Sorry, I lurk in screcy BUT most of the people on here know exactly what that means.”
“There are plenty of people who are posting on this board that know exactly where that reference comes from... they feed their rabbits dog food for a couple days to teach it a lesson if its grumpy.”
“They laugh about feeding the rabbits dog food if it has a bad attitude to "teach it a lesson" and then just kill it and eat it if it doesnt fit their standards or behave the way they want it to or "pull its weight"
“And for the religious crackpot going on about abortion. Sorry, I strongly believe in abortion. I do not however believe in killing animals. There are too many people in the world, and not enough decent ones as all of you people prove.”
The following is a checklist that summarizes the psychological characteristics indicative of a psychopathic, or sociopathic, personality.
*The lack of emotional intelligence is the first good sign you may be dealing with a psychopath.
*They generally deny any responsibility for their behavior and easily place the blame on others
* Lack of formal-operational thinking (tends to think in concrete, black-or-white terms)
*No self-insight (doesn’t reflect much upon own personality makeup)
*No self-humor (can’t stand to be butt of jokes or can’t laugh at self)
*A fairly high IQ (often disparity in ability and achievement)
*Pathological lying (for no reason at all, can’t help self)
*Holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs, foreigners, etc - prejudiced people are unvaryingly unimaginative) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial aspect of their personality secret
*Attention seeking is often criminal, but like a “fire starter” has to let someone know how cleaver they were to start the fire, or at the very least has the need to hang around to watch.
* Is self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of entitlement and sense of invulnerability and untouchability
* Shows a lack of joined-up thinking with conversation that doesn't flow and arguments that don't hold water
* Refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer
* Is evasive and has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability
*Often has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the sociopath sees nothing wrong with their behavior and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others
*Often fraudulently claims qualifications, experience, titles, entitlements or affiliations which are ambiguous, misleading, or bogus
*Often misses the semantic meaning of language, misinterprets what is said, sometimes wrongly thinking that comments of a satirical, ironic or general negative nature apply to him or herself
*Knows the words but not the song
*Sometimes displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged in attention-seeking activities
*Gains gratification from provoking people into emotional or irrational responses but is quick to claim provocation by others when challenged
* Is often like a child who has never grown up
Feeding aggressive rabbits dog food is an old breeders' trick to improve the rabbits' temperament? I've heard a number of "old breeders' tricks" and I have never heard of that one. That's silly. Dog food would do nothing to improve temperament. I suspect you've been misled, Stephen.
Whether you agree with commercial rabbit breeding or not, it does require (a) hard work, and (b) a firm foundation in the fundamentals of biology. It is not an easy occupation. It is not an occupation one enters to "get rich quick".
If your sole goal in entering the commercial rabbit industry is to make money, you'd be better off working for someone else. The individuals I have spoken with choose to raise rabbits commercially because they enjoy working with the species.
If your sole goal in entering the commercial rabbit industry is to make money, you'd be better off working for someone else. The individuals I have spoken with choose to raise rabbits commercially because they enjoy working with the species.
Most meat rabbits are kept in good sized cages like these. Clearly they are soooo abused.
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There should be no rabbit overpopulation period. As long as there are starving people, and hungry carnivores, and reptiles in the world. I bet those meat rabbits were pretty well cared for until they were 'freed.'
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There should be no rabbit overpopulation period. As long as there are starving people, and hungry carnivores, and reptiles in the world. I bet those meat rabbits were pretty well cared for until they were 'freed.'
It is theorized that “Sociopath / Psychopath Personality Disorder” is an injury to the psyche in early infancy, resulting from a “failure to attach” to the primary care giver. The end result is the hallmark “lack of empathy” and a life long inability to relate to other human beings as real or having emotions, rights, and the need to be respected. Sadly, there is no cure for this disorder.
The sociopathic personality disorder tends to decompensate rapidly under stress, regressing to the most primitive of human dysfunctions.
The sociopathic personality disorder tends to decompensate rapidly under stress, regressing to the most primitive of human dysfunctions.
a sociopathic personality does not feel guilty or have the ability to show remorse for killing, causing suffering or hurting another living being. Sorry thats you, not me. I dont kill. period. I dont contribute to killing. period. I dont hurt other living beings. period. I dont contribute to hurting other living beings. period. I dont cause suffering. period. I dont contribute to causing suffering. period. you do all 3. period. with no remorse. period.
why do you try so hard to turn this around? unconscious guilt? must be.
why do you try so hard to turn this around? unconscious guilt? must be.
It is theorized that “Sociopath / Psychopath Personality Disorder” is an injury to the psyche in early infancy, resulting from a “failure to attach” to the primary care giver. The end result is the hallmark “lack of empathy” and a life long inability to relate to other LIVING beings (that would be animals!) as real or having emotions, rights, and the need to be respected. Sadly, there is no cure for this disorder.
The sociopathic personality disorder tends to decompensate rapidly under stress, regressing to the most primitive of human dysfunctions.
...Speak for yourself. I respect ALL life. Animals feel pain and suffer just like humans. You are seriously disturbed, lack empathy and in a whole lot of denial! keep your dime store psychology to yourself.
The sociopathic personality disorder tends to decompensate rapidly under stress, regressing to the most primitive of human dysfunctions.
...Speak for yourself. I respect ALL life. Animals feel pain and suffer just like humans. You are seriously disturbed, lack empathy and in a whole lot of denial! keep your dime store psychology to yourself.
Did you just say that you didn't kill anything or cause suffering to anything? But wait, I seem to recall you saying that you "believed" in abortion, which I think mean that you support it. I believe it to, but I DON'T support it and never will. You are contradicting yourself.
Give me a bible reference that tells Christians that it is wrong to eat meat. I can give you something to read from the bible that proves that God gave us animals for our use. It is in the first few chapters in Genesis, God killed the first animal. It was a lamb, and He used its wool to make clothing for Adam and Eve to cover their nakedness after they were punished by being thrown out of the Garden of Eden. Read it for yourself. Jesus also ate meat Himself when He was living on earth as well, there are countless examples of this in new testament.
Give me a bible reference that tells Christians that it is wrong to eat meat. I can give you something to read from the bible that proves that God gave us animals for our use. It is in the first few chapters in Genesis, God killed the first animal. It was a lamb, and He used its wool to make clothing for Adam and Eve to cover their nakedness after they were punished by being thrown out of the Garden of Eden. Read it for yourself. Jesus also ate meat Himself when He was living on earth as well, there are countless examples of this in new testament.
>>Did you just say that you didn't kill anything or cause suffering to anything? But wait, I seem to recall you saying that you "believed" in abortion, which I think mean that you support it. I believe it to, but I DON'T support it and never will. You are contradicting yourself.
Give me a bible reference that tells Christians that it is wrong to eat meat. I can give you something to read from the bible that proves that God gave us animals for our use. It is in the first few chapters in Genesis, God killed the first animal. It was a lamb, and He used its wool to make clothing for Adam and Eve to cover their nakedness after they were punished by being thrown out of the Garden of Eden. Read it for yourself. Jesus also ate meat Himself when He was living on earth as well, there are countless examples of this in new testament.
the difference is this; I "believe" in abortion. I have never had one, NOR gave one so I in no way have taken part in that. Supporting something is a big difference from actually commiting the deed. I for one believe there are too many people in the world and families should be limited to one child, two max. I do not believe in abortion as birth control and believe it should be done within the first month. So, no I am not contradicting myself in the least because YOU actually take part in the killing of animals. as in HANDS ON. You really need to take responsibility for your OWN actions, and stop desperately trying to turn this around.
Do you live your life by the bible? Have you no mind of your own?
I think you need to re-read AND reinterpret the bible and stop interpreting it to suit your narcissistic need to kill. your references prove nothing, other than you are pretty ignorant. God killed the first animal after adam and eve sinned. figure it out. punished... thrown out... use your brain. Before that, adam and eve were vegans. that was gods original intent. The lamb laid down with the lion. Jesus ate meat when he was on earth... not before. another one thats easily figured out. SIN! your first mistake is quoting the new testament to me. too bad all the animals have to suffer because the old testament was completely mutilated by people who had no appreciation of its original meaning, and people like you come along and completely obliterate it. God had no intention for us to eat animals, we were supposed to be their guardians. It was the sinners who went against gods will and have continued it to this day. it is a sin to profit off the life of an animal. It is a sin to kill them. You will find this out when you meet your god. rest assured, there will be a judgement day and you will be held accuntable for not understanding. sucks to be you oh ignorant butcher.
Give me a bible reference that tells Christians that it is wrong to eat meat. I can give you something to read from the bible that proves that God gave us animals for our use. It is in the first few chapters in Genesis, God killed the first animal. It was a lamb, and He used its wool to make clothing for Adam and Eve to cover their nakedness after they were punished by being thrown out of the Garden of Eden. Read it for yourself. Jesus also ate meat Himself when He was living on earth as well, there are countless examples of this in new testament.
the difference is this; I "believe" in abortion. I have never had one, NOR gave one so I in no way have taken part in that. Supporting something is a big difference from actually commiting the deed. I for one believe there are too many people in the world and families should be limited to one child, two max. I do not believe in abortion as birth control and believe it should be done within the first month. So, no I am not contradicting myself in the least because YOU actually take part in the killing of animals. as in HANDS ON. You really need to take responsibility for your OWN actions, and stop desperately trying to turn this around.
Do you live your life by the bible? Have you no mind of your own?
I think you need to re-read AND reinterpret the bible and stop interpreting it to suit your narcissistic need to kill. your references prove nothing, other than you are pretty ignorant. God killed the first animal after adam and eve sinned. figure it out. punished... thrown out... use your brain. Before that, adam and eve were vegans. that was gods original intent. The lamb laid down with the lion. Jesus ate meat when he was on earth... not before. another one thats easily figured out. SIN! your first mistake is quoting the new testament to me. too bad all the animals have to suffer because the old testament was completely mutilated by people who had no appreciation of its original meaning, and people like you come along and completely obliterate it. God had no intention for us to eat animals, we were supposed to be their guardians. It was the sinners who went against gods will and have continued it to this day. it is a sin to profit off the life of an animal. It is a sin to kill them. You will find this out when you meet your god. rest assured, there will be a judgement day and you will be held accuntable for not understanding. sucks to be you oh ignorant butcher.
I for one believe there are too many people in the world and families should be limited to one child, two max. I do not believe in abortion as birth control and believe it should be done within the first month.
Good for you. To add to that, I think we should spay and nueter the nutcaes in the human population. That way they do not breed. We don't need those type of genes in the human gene pool.
I'll be eating rabbit at a rabbit and noodles at a rabbit show tomorrow, and will be thinking of you. :)
Good for you. To add to that, I think we should spay and nueter the nutcaes in the human population. That way they do not breed. We don't need those type of genes in the human gene pool.
I'll be eating rabbit at a rabbit and noodles at a rabbit show tomorrow, and will be thinking of you. :)
thats all you have? cant reply to anything else of substance, just go to the old sad standby of calling me crazy? typical. then you just show what a hypocrite you are by talking about eating rabbits and noodles or whatever it is you crackpots eat. pleeeease, that last comment was supposed to what? make me angry? its people like you that say things like that, that make me believe in abortion. are you actually saying that someone who cares about animals is someone you dont want in the gene pool and someone who kills and then brags about it is what the world needs more of? thats a really twisted way of thinking, its so amusing how you people think. If the world went your way, the odds are more in your favor that you would end up being abused the same way that you abuse. you dont really think these things out very well do you? once again, own up to yourselves. nice to know I have such an affect on you that you will be thinking of me tomorrow. I will most defenitely not be thinking of you. just curious what its like living in a sadistic state of mind 24/7? must be rough.
You're a communist. To believe that families should be limited to one child, two max. is communism. You are too dumb to learn anything, so I am going to quit wasting my time. This will be my last comment. Actually, it kinda scares me to know that there are people out there that value a RABBITS life more than a human's life. Ugh
Oh no that was to poke fun at you to get you going to see how crazy you really are. Just like you guys threatening poor donna to get her going. Personally I thinkt hey should remove people like you from the gene pool. Anyone that values an animals life over a humans is nuts. Especailly those that think its cool to go free fluffy just so a coyote can eat it. Or steal them just to dump them into the pet animal population, which is already overflowing with plenty of homeless rabbits. But i guess since you guys are going around taking property that isn't yours to begin with, they need more homeless rabbits am i rite? So what really did happen to the other twenty? Did they go to the already full animal shelters? Or where they turned lose in the wilderness somewhere to fend for themselves.
rabbit meat is very nutritious, and delicious. Would eat it over chicken any day. Less fat. better for you..
One day you may also realize that the manure from those poor neglected meat rabbits is also used to help grow the vegetables you eat.
rabbit meat is very nutritious, and delicious. Would eat it over chicken any day. Less fat. better for you..
One day you may also realize that the manure from those poor neglected meat rabbits is also used to help grow the vegetables you eat.
Actually, it kinda scares me to know that there are people out there that value a RABBITS life more than a human's life. Ugh
Thats where you lose touch with reality and where you prove you have no understanding of the basic principles of empathy and compassion. I value ALL life. A rabbit deserves a right to life no differently than you or I. I dont value one over the other as is the way it should be. Whats wrong is to pronounce yourself a higher species, play god and take anothers life. It most defenitely scares me that there are people out there who have no basic understanding of live and let live.
call me dumb all you want, but you have said nothing worthwhile to back up your claim that you have a "right" to take an animals life and god putthem here for our use. funny how you just keep on attacking me, its to be expected when one cant fully even take stock of their own misgivings.
Thats where you lose touch with reality and where you prove you have no understanding of the basic principles of empathy and compassion. I value ALL life. A rabbit deserves a right to life no differently than you or I. I dont value one over the other as is the way it should be. Whats wrong is to pronounce yourself a higher species, play god and take anothers life. It most defenitely scares me that there are people out there who have no basic understanding of live and let live.
call me dumb all you want, but you have said nothing worthwhile to back up your claim that you have a "right" to take an animals life and god putthem here for our use. funny how you just keep on attacking me, its to be expected when one cant fully even take stock of their own misgivings.
Oh no that was to poke fun at you to get you going to see how crazy you really are. Just like you guys threatening poor donna to get her going. Personally I thinkt hey should remove people like you from the gene pool. Anyone that values an animals life over a humans is nuts. Especailly those that think its cool to go free fluffy just so a coyote can eat it. Or steal them just to dump them into the pet animal population, which is already overflowing with plenty of homeless rabbits. But i guess since you guys are going around taking property that isn't yours to begin with, they need more homeless rabbits am i rite? So what really did happen to the other twenty? Did they go to the already full animal shelters? Or where they turned lose in the wilderness somewhere to fend for themselves.
rabbit meat is very nutritious, and delicious. Would eat it over chicken any day. Less fat. better for you..
One day you may also realize that the manure from those poor neglected meat rabbits is also used to help grow the vegetables you eat.
well I cant answer to where the 20 rabbits went, because I had nothing to do with it. I just came upon this website from a link in another website, not sure where you got the idea I had anything to do with it. but from all the posts on here, not one of you seem very bright but you do seem easily fooled. why dont you respond to anything I have said? you just ignore everything and do what all you rabbit butchers do, just attack. Im hardly crazy. I have a great love for animals, especially rabbits. Does that mean I love humans less? you people have seriously flawed misconceptions. I love ALL life. I know that may be hard for you to understand, since obviously your brain isnt set up to accept that every living breathing creature has a right to life. You compartmentalize things and have a sick need to feel powerful and think you can take a rabbits life just so you can eat. who cares if its delicious and healthy. why cant you feed yourself without taking a life? its disgusting that you care more about filling up your stomachs than you do about these animals who have no choice in the matter. its completely selfish of you, and as a female I am even more disgusted by you. how dare you actually allow a rabbit to give birth just so you can kill its babies and eat them. we need more caring peple in the world, we have enough narcissistic people as it is. and as for poor donna, she asked for it with her atrocious attitude of saying she kills because she can. I dont feel sorry for her in the least. be decent human beings and stop acting like monsters and these things wouldnt be happening. she should learn to keep her mouth in check. funny that a breeder would feign concern over too many homeless rabbits. you people are the problem and you refuse to accept it. ps; learn to spell. its right not rite and its were not where.
rabbit meat is very nutritious, and delicious. Would eat it over chicken any day. Less fat. better for you..
One day you may also realize that the manure from those poor neglected meat rabbits is also used to help grow the vegetables you eat.
well I cant answer to where the 20 rabbits went, because I had nothing to do with it. I just came upon this website from a link in another website, not sure where you got the idea I had anything to do with it. but from all the posts on here, not one of you seem very bright but you do seem easily fooled. why dont you respond to anything I have said? you just ignore everything and do what all you rabbit butchers do, just attack. Im hardly crazy. I have a great love for animals, especially rabbits. Does that mean I love humans less? you people have seriously flawed misconceptions. I love ALL life. I know that may be hard for you to understand, since obviously your brain isnt set up to accept that every living breathing creature has a right to life. You compartmentalize things and have a sick need to feel powerful and think you can take a rabbits life just so you can eat. who cares if its delicious and healthy. why cant you feed yourself without taking a life? its disgusting that you care more about filling up your stomachs than you do about these animals who have no choice in the matter. its completely selfish of you, and as a female I am even more disgusted by you. how dare you actually allow a rabbit to give birth just so you can kill its babies and eat them. we need more caring peple in the world, we have enough narcissistic people as it is. and as for poor donna, she asked for it with her atrocious attitude of saying she kills because she can. I dont feel sorry for her in the least. be decent human beings and stop acting like monsters and these things wouldnt be happening. she should learn to keep her mouth in check. funny that a breeder would feign concern over too many homeless rabbits. you people are the problem and you refuse to accept it. ps; learn to spell. its right not rite and its were not where.
Learn how to caps! It isn't too much harder than knowing the difference between rite and write.
There is a difference between animals and humans, BTW. God gave humans a soul, and animals don't have a soul. HUGE difference! That also does make us a "higher species". When we die, our soul goes to either heaven or hell, depending on whether or not you accepted the Lord as your Saviour. When an animal dies, it is dead. Nothing left but bones, it doesn't go to the "rainbow bridge" or whatever people call it, it doesn't go to heaven or hell or anywhere else. It isn't reincarnated. It is D-E-A-D. Pretty simple, really.
....and you know this how? who are you to say that animals dont have a soul and people do? show me your proof. As a matter of fact, show me your proof that god even existed. Once you show me accurate proof that god existed (not the bible and a church) then you can show me that humans actually have souls and animals dont. You believe you are a higher species, thats fine. but that still doesnt give you the right to abuse animals. That is called bullying. How do you not know that there isnt a higher species out there that is watching us? you dont. you have absolutely no factual proof to back up anything you say. merely an opinion. You read a book and you misunderstood it, thats pretty simple to figure out. You can accept the "lord" as your saviour, thats great but that doesnt mean you arent held acountable for your actions in this lifetime. Just because you accept the lord doesnt mean that it is a free pass and you can do whatever you please and hurt whoever you want along the way. If you truly believe in god then you better go back and re-read his teachings because you missed something along the way, something he had endless amounts of; empathy and compassion. And even though you accepted the lord, you might still go to hell because you werent faithful in your acceptance. Killing and profiting off animals is not acceptable. You are sinning but you refuse to believe it because you refuse to fully understand and be open to what is presented to you. God is not an excuse. plenty of people are not religious and act the way you do. you need to admit you lack compassion, period and are selfish and self serving. face up to yourself now because you cant go back and correct things on the way to hell... shoulda, woulda.. oops Im sorry, let me try again isnt going to save you then!
There is a difference between animals and humans, BTW. God gave humans a soul, and animals don't have a soul. HUGE difference! That also does make us a "higher species". When we die, our soul goes to either heaven or hell, depending on whether or not you accepted the Lord as your Saviour. When an animal dies, it is dead. Nothing left but bones, it doesn't go to the "rainbow bridge" or whatever people call it, it doesn't go to heaven or hell or anywhere else. It isn't reincarnated. It is D-E-A-D. Pretty simple, really.
....and you know this how? who are you to say that animals dont have a soul and people do? show me your proof. As a matter of fact, show me your proof that god even existed. Once you show me accurate proof that god existed (not the bible and a church) then you can show me that humans actually have souls and animals dont. You believe you are a higher species, thats fine. but that still doesnt give you the right to abuse animals. That is called bullying. How do you not know that there isnt a higher species out there that is watching us? you dont. you have absolutely no factual proof to back up anything you say. merely an opinion. You read a book and you misunderstood it, thats pretty simple to figure out. You can accept the "lord" as your saviour, thats great but that doesnt mean you arent held acountable for your actions in this lifetime. Just because you accept the lord doesnt mean that it is a free pass and you can do whatever you please and hurt whoever you want along the way. If you truly believe in god then you better go back and re-read his teachings because you missed something along the way, something he had endless amounts of; empathy and compassion. And even though you accepted the lord, you might still go to hell because you werent faithful in your acceptance. Killing and profiting off animals is not acceptable. You are sinning but you refuse to believe it because you refuse to fully understand and be open to what is presented to you. God is not an excuse. plenty of people are not religious and act the way you do. you need to admit you lack compassion, period and are selfish and self serving. face up to yourself now because you cant go back and correct things on the way to hell... shoulda, woulda.. oops Im sorry, let me try again isnt going to save you then!
you people are the problem and you refuse to accept it. ps; learn to spell. its right not rite and its were not where.
we aren't the ones going around freeing the fluffy bunnies. We also aren't the ones going around stealing them, only to dump them in animal shelters. Or setting them free somewhere. Show rabbit breeders are not responsible for pet rabbit overpopulation. Irresponsible pet owners, some commercail breeders(the petstore industry), and those that think its kool to act like a bunch of thieves are. less 25% of the rabbits in shelters are purebred. The majority are mutts. And as long as there are starving people in the world, there should not be a rabbit overpopulation. They should be fed to humans, or rawed and barfed out to the cats and dogs.
I purposesly misspelled right. Haven't you ever heard of the term am I rite? Well am I rite?
So you are saying that Donna deserved to be threatened, cause the last time I checked that was a form of internet stalking.
we aren't the ones going around freeing the fluffy bunnies. We also aren't the ones going around stealing them, only to dump them in animal shelters. Or setting them free somewhere. Show rabbit breeders are not responsible for pet rabbit overpopulation. Irresponsible pet owners, some commercail breeders(the petstore industry), and those that think its kool to act like a bunch of thieves are. less 25% of the rabbits in shelters are purebred. The majority are mutts. And as long as there are starving people in the world, there should not be a rabbit overpopulation. They should be fed to humans, or rawed and barfed out to the cats and dogs.
I purposesly misspelled right. Haven't you ever heard of the term am I rite? Well am I rite?
So you are saying that Donna deserved to be threatened, cause the last time I checked that was a form of internet stalking.
ps - not sure where you get the idea that liberated rabbits are dumped in shelters, but you believe what you want to believe because people like you wouldnt know truth if it was slapping you up side the face. just remember - you are a killer, not me.
Well, "its me" show me proof that a "higher species" exists that is watching us. I don't see any huge thing standing above me feeding me or watering me or anything like we do to our animals.
I am not using God as an excuse, just trying to explain to you that it isn't wrong to use animals. I don't abuse my animals either. The only thing I can say to you that proves that God exists, without using any bible reference, is go outside right now. Look around- what do you see? Trees, maybe? Grass? The beautiful sky, maybe with the sun or possibly stars and the moon? And now come back to the computer and tell me that God doesn't exist. How else could those things be? The moon didn't hang itself, that's for sure. The tree didn't just pop into existence one day all by itself.
It is amazing that something like eating rabbits for meat leads to one thing, then another and another. There are a lot of issues that have been covered that don't directly concern eating meat. Why don't you take a look at my church's website? Here is the link- http://www.mthebronbaptist.org Download some of the sermons and listen to them, if you like.
I am not using God as an excuse, just trying to explain to you that it isn't wrong to use animals. I don't abuse my animals either. The only thing I can say to you that proves that God exists, without using any bible reference, is go outside right now. Look around- what do you see? Trees, maybe? Grass? The beautiful sky, maybe with the sun or possibly stars and the moon? And now come back to the computer and tell me that God doesn't exist. How else could those things be? The moon didn't hang itself, that's for sure. The tree didn't just pop into existence one day all by itself.
It is amazing that something like eating rabbits for meat leads to one thing, then another and another. There are a lot of issues that have been covered that don't directly concern eating meat. Why don't you take a look at my church's website? Here is the link- http://www.mthebronbaptist.org Download some of the sermons and listen to them, if you like.
no thanks, not interested in your church. yes, its a beautiful planet isnt it? the stars are gorgeous, the trees are beautiful, the grass is green... the sky is vast. The animals are a part of this wonderful planet that you say is the reason you believe god exists. Animals are beautiful creatures with hearts that pump their lifes blood into them just as your blood pumps life into you. You have no right to take their life anymore than you have a rightto take the life of a human. It is morally wrong. They mate, have babies, have partners and feel happiness and pain, fear etc just as we do. They have a right to not be exploited, used, abused, treated as punching bags, not be your dinner, not be tested on and basically left to be exactly what they are; one of gods great creatures. I wish that sooner rather than later you would learn compassion, realize what you are doing is wrong, realize that god in no such way told you that animals are here for you to use at your will, and learn to live in harmony with every creature on this planet. you are misinterpreting the bible. And all these animals are paying a heavy price. You are contributing to a holocaust. If jesus walked the earth today, politically speaking he would be considered a liberal. He would be so far left, he would be off the scales. He would be a hippie. He most certainly would not have a capitalist mindset and be a right wing republican cheering for war. He would be horrified at the state of the planet and what it has become with factory farming, fast food restaurants on every corner, walmarts on every block. You really need to reevaluate your way of thinking and leave the animals alone. no more excuses. its time to own up to yourself and your actions.
So in as a respectful a manner as possible, I would like to ask you some questions? Is it unethical for a Lion to eat a Water Buffalo? Is it unethical for a Cougar to eat a human? If a Chimpanzee eats another breed of monkey, is that wrong in any way? If a Bear (an omnivore) is deprived of fish, and dies of malnutrition, was the bears death wrong? Why is it humans who practice a vegan diet, often have health issues due to malnutrition. (that is fact, not theory)
If you believe we are evolving souls who should rise above the need for meat, and other such barbaric practices, why then is it OK to make threats to frighten other people? Or OK to break the law (a consensus and standard of behavior agreed upon by the majority of the population), and steal other peoples animals? If the animals are not our "property", then is it our duty to take your children(who are not your property) if we feel you are being abusive and neglectful by not providing them with the proper nutrition? And, exactly how evolved is it to be so hostile, and angry, and so obsessed with the people who eat meat that you would put on a mask, and sneak around in the middle of the night, in the shadows, to do something you would not do openly for all the world to see?
And on another line of thinking, is there any difference, in your mind, between the factory farms that are indeed careless with regards to the animals suffering, and the people who try to provide for their families and themselves by living as responsible lives as possible; by investing their heart and soul into not wasting anything, being good stewards of the land and their animals?
Also, do you really think you in no way participate in, or benefit from the loss of any life at all? Any? Do you think that if the man who hauls away your garbage every week, finds his bodies fuel from eating meat, you not benefit from the death of an animal?
If you believe we are evolving souls who should rise above the need for meat, and other such barbaric practices, why then is it OK to make threats to frighten other people? Or OK to break the law (a consensus and standard of behavior agreed upon by the majority of the population), and steal other peoples animals? If the animals are not our "property", then is it our duty to take your children(who are not your property) if we feel you are being abusive and neglectful by not providing them with the proper nutrition? And, exactly how evolved is it to be so hostile, and angry, and so obsessed with the people who eat meat that you would put on a mask, and sneak around in the middle of the night, in the shadows, to do something you would not do openly for all the world to see?
And on another line of thinking, is there any difference, in your mind, between the factory farms that are indeed careless with regards to the animals suffering, and the people who try to provide for their families and themselves by living as responsible lives as possible; by investing their heart and soul into not wasting anything, being good stewards of the land and their animals?
Also, do you really think you in no way participate in, or benefit from the loss of any life at all? Any? Do you think that if the man who hauls away your garbage every week, finds his bodies fuel from eating meat, you not benefit from the death of an animal?
I bet you have never smacked a mosquito. Hehehe That mosquito had a heart that pumped life through its veins. You have MURDERED a poor little mosquito! You had no right to take its life. Blah blah blah
I just found this site and have read some of the listing here.
I am amazed at the individuals that spend so much time and effort telling another what is right and what is wrong.
Ultimately you WILL have to face yor maker and be held responsible for the decisions you have made in your life.
Is there a GOD--I have FAITH that there is--How did I get here if it was not for the grace of GOD. Is there a HEAVEN? I sure hope so--otherwise what is life all about. Is there a HELL--I hope there is for all the really really bad people out there. I have compassion and I feel that even the worst person at the end has the right to cross into HEAVEN if they are truely in there HEART and SOUL sorry for what they have done. The individuals that have NO remorse well that is another story. But that is NOT for me to DECIDE
Individauls that believe in ABORTION but are discusted by killing an animal ---You need to FOCUS more on the IMPORTANT ISSUES
POVERTY--HUNGER--GLOBAL WARMING--to name a few
I raise rabbits for food for myself, my family and my dogs. My rabbits are well cared for have plenty to eat and are treated very humanly until time to butcher.
I am assisting with the food supply. I control the breeding habits. I am NOT forcing animals OUT of there natural habitat so I have a place to reside. I feed the wild life and assist in the reproduction of animals on the extict species list. I do what I can for the GLOBAL WARMING issues that are affecting the WORLD for all the creatures.
I like to FOCUS on the IMPORTANT issues---making my environment as HEALTHY as possible.
If I am considered BARBARIC because I choose to raise animals for food that have NOT been filled with hormones then I guess I am BARBARIC.
If I am wrong then I will have to JUSTIFY my decisions that I have made on MY JUDGEMENT DAY.
Anyone that comes to my residence with the intent to harm my way of life will be met with resistance.
I am amazed at the individuals that spend so much time and effort telling another what is right and what is wrong.
Ultimately you WILL have to face yor maker and be held responsible for the decisions you have made in your life.
Is there a GOD--I have FAITH that there is--How did I get here if it was not for the grace of GOD. Is there a HEAVEN? I sure hope so--otherwise what is life all about. Is there a HELL--I hope there is for all the really really bad people out there. I have compassion and I feel that even the worst person at the end has the right to cross into HEAVEN if they are truely in there HEART and SOUL sorry for what they have done. The individuals that have NO remorse well that is another story. But that is NOT for me to DECIDE
Individauls that believe in ABORTION but are discusted by killing an animal ---You need to FOCUS more on the IMPORTANT ISSUES
POVERTY--HUNGER--GLOBAL WARMING--to name a few
I raise rabbits for food for myself, my family and my dogs. My rabbits are well cared for have plenty to eat and are treated very humanly until time to butcher.
I am assisting with the food supply. I control the breeding habits. I am NOT forcing animals OUT of there natural habitat so I have a place to reside. I feed the wild life and assist in the reproduction of animals on the extict species list. I do what I can for the GLOBAL WARMING issues that are affecting the WORLD for all the creatures.
I like to FOCUS on the IMPORTANT issues---making my environment as HEALTHY as possible.
If I am considered BARBARIC because I choose to raise animals for food that have NOT been filled with hormones then I guess I am BARBARIC.
If I am wrong then I will have to JUSTIFY my decisions that I have made on MY JUDGEMENT DAY.
Anyone that comes to my residence with the intent to harm my way of life will be met with resistance.
Im sorry Brutus, but you people all say the same things. come up with something original. its so old and really proves nothing. You do things for humanity? great! so do I. But I still dont kill animals. Funny you mention global warming and dont understand why I believe in abortion. If there werent so many people in the world, who are starving, then there would be no need to kill animals right? your argument falls flat. stop overbreeding so you dont have to breed animals to feed people. Stop overbreeding so that our natural resources arent being destroyed by this mass of humanity that is raping the earth on a daily basis. Try eating foods that didnt die for you. Beans, tofu, rice.. grains... those are just as good for you and you can meet your maker and NOT have to answer for killing. YOU try focusing because you are all over the map with your beliefs and are a hypocrite. Is it so hard for you to help humans and animals? what is it with you people? would any of you like to be treated the way animals are? NO. You would not!
hahaha
I have contolled breeding--in the wild they would breed and breed and breed, get way out of control, get diseased and spred disease.
I do know there are some irresponsible breeders out to make a quick buck, not all ! I have vet visits and my breeders are very very well cared for.
Do you own any animals? If they get ill do you not take and get them care? If they get perisites do you not take care of that issue? Do you step on spiders,ant and kill roaches?
I do not begrudge you your thoughts on existance the way you choose to live. I do not harp at you on the farming practices that get your beloved tofu. Over farming (erosion) and over use of chemicals(poisoning lakes and streams)
All life styles come with a price.
I have contolled breeding--in the wild they would breed and breed and breed, get way out of control, get diseased and spred disease.
I do know there are some irresponsible breeders out to make a quick buck, not all ! I have vet visits and my breeders are very very well cared for.
Do you own any animals? If they get ill do you not take and get them care? If they get perisites do you not take care of that issue? Do you step on spiders,ant and kill roaches?
I do not begrudge you your thoughts on existance the way you choose to live. I do not harp at you on the farming practices that get your beloved tofu. Over farming (erosion) and over use of chemicals(poisoning lakes and streams)
All life styles come with a price.
Hahaha,
Do you have sex? Are you sterilized. If we are so overpopulated maybe you need to focus on a new venture----"Human Sterilization"
Be the first!! Tell all of your friends!!
Do you have sex? Are you sterilized. If we are so overpopulated maybe you need to focus on a new venture----"Human Sterilization"
Be the first!! Tell all of your friends!!
I will never breed. Human sterilization is an important thing, will work on that after I get to work on these other issues.
tofu takes no lives
ps - not sure where you get the idea that liberated rabbits are dumped in shelters, but you believe what you want to believe because people like you wouldnt know truth if it was slapping you up side the face. just remember - you are a killer, not me.
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The original article states that four of the rabbits ALF took were dumped off at an animal shelter.
Guess what happened to the animals that produced the manure used to grow the vegetables you eat?
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The original article states that four of the rabbits ALF took were dumped off at an animal shelter.
Guess what happened to the animals that produced the manure used to grow the vegetables you eat?
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Immune Disorders, Soy and canola
" Recently there has been a tremendous increase in disorders like systemic lupus, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, "myelinoma", pulmonary hypertension and neuropathy. Soy and canola oils are players in the outbreak of these disease conditions. So are the organophosphates, insecticides such as malathion used in food production in the name of efficiency."
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You say soy doesn't hurt---read and educate yourself
But hey--keep on eatting the stuff
by John D. MacArthur - "Tofu Shrinks Brain!" Not a science fiction scenario, this sobering soybean revelation is for real. But how did the "poster bean" of the '90s go wrong? Apparently, in many ways — none of which bode well for the brain.
Immune Disorders, Soy and canola
" Recently there has been a tremendous increase in disorders like systemic lupus, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, "myelinoma", pulmonary hypertension and neuropathy. Soy and canola oils are players in the outbreak of these disease conditions. So are the organophosphates, insecticides such as malathion used in food production in the name of efficiency."
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You say soy doesn't hurt---read and educate yourself
But hey--keep on eatting the stuff
all I can say is that all of you ARA people, and yes I am including PETA in this.. are a bunch of freaks that live in your own world... must be nice to live in a make believe world where everything can be just your way.
I personally have a few rabbits right now... but will tell you this.. just like all other GOOD RABBIT BREEDERS, and not the ones that drag us down by creating a BAD name by not taking care of their animals...
you could come open all of my rabbits cages, and none of them would leave... not a single one... they are all too spoiled... my babies that I have right now would come greet you and give you kisses and try to climb all over you, but they wouldn't dream of leaving a place where they get all the attention they want, all they could possiably eat, fresh water....
but that's right... if you ask me that's a horrid exsistance... why would I want to live somewhere where all I had to do was hang around all day and have someone wait on me hand and foot? not even having to move to go to the bathroom? getting all the attention I could ever want... oh yeah and raising babies who only have to stay with me for 8 weeks... hmmm that sounds horrendious.... would never wanna live like that... nope....
Honestly, I wish you all would get a life and leave us normal people alone.
I know for a fact that a mink ranch that was raided and all the animals let loose, all of those animals died.
what from? males fighting, starvation, babies being stuck in their cages with no way out that were too young to fend for themselves....
naw... I'd rather die like that, then to live in the lap of luxery and then being humanly put down... totally... I mean who really wants to be waited on hand and foot anyways????
I personally have a few rabbits right now... but will tell you this.. just like all other GOOD RABBIT BREEDERS, and not the ones that drag us down by creating a BAD name by not taking care of their animals...
you could come open all of my rabbits cages, and none of them would leave... not a single one... they are all too spoiled... my babies that I have right now would come greet you and give you kisses and try to climb all over you, but they wouldn't dream of leaving a place where they get all the attention they want, all they could possiably eat, fresh water....
but that's right... if you ask me that's a horrid exsistance... why would I want to live somewhere where all I had to do was hang around all day and have someone wait on me hand and foot? not even having to move to go to the bathroom? getting all the attention I could ever want... oh yeah and raising babies who only have to stay with me for 8 weeks... hmmm that sounds horrendious.... would never wanna live like that... nope....
Honestly, I wish you all would get a life and leave us normal people alone.
I know for a fact that a mink ranch that was raided and all the animals let loose, all of those animals died.
what from? males fighting, starvation, babies being stuck in their cages with no way out that were too young to fend for themselves....
naw... I'd rather die like that, then to live in the lap of luxery and then being humanly put down... totally... I mean who really wants to be waited on hand and foot anyways????
And the excuses pour in. Who are you trying to convince, the AR's or yourself!? Sounds more like yourself! well, heres why they are happy and come up to you and want kisses; THEY DONT KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE KILLED FOR FOOD BY THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRUST!!!
The original article states that four of the rabbits ALF took were dumped off at an animal shelter.
really? hmm... thats pretty funny. Why dont you go back up to the top and read the article I read. We must be reading different articles, because it clearly says they were placed in homes. You people like to make things up. There is no mention of an animal shelter in that article, so once again the idiots speak their silly opinions as fact.
really? hmm... thats pretty funny. Why dont you go back up to the top and read the article I read. We must be reading different articles, because it clearly says they were placed in homes. You people like to make things up. There is no mention of an animal shelter in that article, so once again the idiots speak their silly opinions as fact.
ok brutus. the same can be said for eating meat. it clogs arteries, leads to obesity and heart failure among a lot of other assorted ailments. I will take the bad that comes with cruelty free food over the bad that comes with cruel food. Thanks, keep on trying, you people are really getting desperate.
also, I would like to know where on their site you saw the rabbits being kept in TINY cages? all the pictures I saw on there showed the rabbits either on a table, or a very well set up for rabbits with well built cages... also, the only pictures that show the cages are just the fronts of them... tell me, can you tell how big or small the inside of a house is by looking at the front of it? really? you can't? wow... that just baffles me, as you seem to think that you can judge the size of a cage by looking only at the front of it....
in my next life I would love to come back as one of my many spoiled rotten rabbits.... such a horrid life... living like royalty... shucks, I would just hate to live like that....
in my next life I would love to come back as one of my many spoiled rotten rabbits.... such a horrid life... living like royalty... shucks, I would just hate to live like that....
And the excuses pour in. Who are you trying to convince, the AR's or yourself!? Sounds more like yourself! well, heres why they are happy and come up to you and want kisses; THEY DONT KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE KILLED FOR FOOD BY THE PEOPLE THAT THEY TRUST!!!
ok... before you go even further off the hook.... I, like lots of other breeders, am breeding my rabbits for pets and show.... a lot of breeders do just this. rabbits have lots of purposes, and meat and fur are just two of them. should you attack all of us because you don't agree with two very good uses of rabbits? my rabbits live better lives than most people do. is that horrid? according to you it is...
a long while back, I raise dairy goats for milk, market, and show... they were kept in a fenced field is that horrid too?
they were well fed, well cared for, and once again, lived better lives than most people....
my only thing that gets me with some "breeders" is the people who don't bother to take the time to research the animal that they are breeding and breeding anything that resembles the breed that they are wanting to breed to make a quick buck. also, my phliosphy is if you can't feed it, then don't have it. this not only applies to animals but children as well... why when you can't even take care of yourself should you reproduce or have animals and make the poor things suffer?
fortunatly... there are plenty of GOOD breeders out there that take the time to care for their animals properly... also, we are all gonna die someday... why should we be wasteful and not eat meat? most animals were created for us to utlize as food... we should respect that.... without us and other animals eating the herbavores they would over populate, create diseases, and kill us all eventually? does that sound better than keeping the population under control and getting a good meal out of it in the mean time? honestly, I think all of you ARA people need to go be confined with razor wire in Texas... and then we can raise you just like animals.... give you water buckets and a certian amount of food every day... with shelters that you are only allowed to go into in the winter... with shark infested water in the only unfenced area in the state, so even if you do try to escape you will be eaten.... but it's not just ARA people that should be put there.... all psychotic people should be put there.... my inlaws can go first.... oh and all of the people that are put in there will be fixed... so they will have no way to procreate and make more idiotic psychotic people....
ahhh to live in a perfect world.... :)
ok... before you go even further off the hook.... I, like lots of other breeders, am breeding my rabbits for pets and show.... a lot of breeders do just this. rabbits have lots of purposes, and meat and fur are just two of them. should you attack all of us because you don't agree with two very good uses of rabbits? my rabbits live better lives than most people do. is that horrid? according to you it is...
a long while back, I raise dairy goats for milk, market, and show... they were kept in a fenced field is that horrid too?
they were well fed, well cared for, and once again, lived better lives than most people....
my only thing that gets me with some "breeders" is the people who don't bother to take the time to research the animal that they are breeding and breeding anything that resembles the breed that they are wanting to breed to make a quick buck. also, my phliosphy is if you can't feed it, then don't have it. this not only applies to animals but children as well... why when you can't even take care of yourself should you reproduce or have animals and make the poor things suffer?
fortunatly... there are plenty of GOOD breeders out there that take the time to care for their animals properly... also, we are all gonna die someday... why should we be wasteful and not eat meat? most animals were created for us to utlize as food... we should respect that.... without us and other animals eating the herbavores they would over populate, create diseases, and kill us all eventually? does that sound better than keeping the population under control and getting a good meal out of it in the mean time? honestly, I think all of you ARA people need to go be confined with razor wire in Texas... and then we can raise you just like animals.... give you water buckets and a certian amount of food every day... with shelters that you are only allowed to go into in the winter... with shark infested water in the only unfenced area in the state, so even if you do try to escape you will be eaten.... but it's not just ARA people that should be put there.... all psychotic people should be put there.... my inlaws can go first.... oh and all of the people that are put in there will be fixed... so they will have no way to procreate and make more idiotic psychotic people....
ahhh to live in a perfect world.... :)
ok... before you go even further off the hook.... I, like lots of other breeders, am breeding my rabbits for pets and show.... a lot of breeders do just this. rabbits have lots of purposes, and meat and fur are just two of them. should you attack all of us because you don't agree with two very good uses of rabbits? my rabbits live better lives than most people do. is that horrid? according to you it is...
what? huh? you breed them for pets and show and meat and fur? start making sense. you people use way too many names, I dont even know where you are going with this or what you even mean, you just talk all crazy with no point.
I think you asked me a question, I cant remember through all the hen cackling but I believe I would say the answer is yes. It is wrong. If they die, its wrong. You cant figure that out yourself?
what? huh? you breed them for pets and show and meat and fur? start making sense. you people use way too many names, I dont even know where you are going with this or what you even mean, you just talk all crazy with no point.
I think you asked me a question, I cant remember through all the hen cackling but I believe I would say the answer is yes. It is wrong. If they die, its wrong. You cant figure that out yourself?
also, I would like to know where on their site you saw the rabbits being kept in TINY cages? all the pictures I saw on there showed the rabbits either on a table, or a very well set up for rabbits with well built cages... also, the only pictures that show the cages are just the fronts of them... tell me, can you tell how big or small the inside of a house is by looking at the front of it? really? you can't? wow... that just baffles me, as you seem to think that you can judge the size of a cage by looking only at the front of it....
in my next life I would love to come back as one of my many spoiled rotten rabbits.... such a horrid life... living like royalty... shucks, I would just hate to live like that....
Ok now this one is even more confusing. Are you twelve or 70 reverting back to your childhood? You sound like an uneducated mountain woman. Get something straight, Im not thinking I can judge anything because I didnt write anything you read, I didnt steal any rabbits and Im not sure why you are asking me to explain something that has nothing to do with me. You will have to take that up with the people involved. Im just here to tell you that you are disgusting. And believe me, you are most defenitely disgusting.
In your next life I most certainly hope you do come back as one of your spoiled rabbits, that way you can know what they go through when you kill them. Might make you think twice when it actually happens to you. You are seriously brain dead. Dont cackle at me like an old barnyard hen anymore, you sound crazier than you could ever accuse me of being.
in my next life I would love to come back as one of my many spoiled rotten rabbits.... such a horrid life... living like royalty... shucks, I would just hate to live like that....
Ok now this one is even more confusing. Are you twelve or 70 reverting back to your childhood? You sound like an uneducated mountain woman. Get something straight, Im not thinking I can judge anything because I didnt write anything you read, I didnt steal any rabbits and Im not sure why you are asking me to explain something that has nothing to do with me. You will have to take that up with the people involved. Im just here to tell you that you are disgusting. And believe me, you are most defenitely disgusting.
In your next life I most certainly hope you do come back as one of your spoiled rabbits, that way you can know what they go through when you kill them. Might make you think twice when it actually happens to you. You are seriously brain dead. Dont cackle at me like an old barnyard hen anymore, you sound crazier than you could ever accuse me of being.
live like royalty you say.... for all 7 - 8 weeks of their lives. maybe you would have the chance to be saved from destruction by a compassionate person willing to give their freedom to protect your life. maybe then you would know what respect for life is.. not having to die for the profits of the greedy. your life as a rabbit could depend on whethter someone in your area cared enough about you to put there life in danger by sneaking onto your redneck slaughter's farm and saving you.
the rabbits are doing great.... getting over the trauma of their past lives. eating well and and turning very sociallable. there names are Sasha, Tasha, ALFie and Lucky. Imagine that. No shelter will ever be near these babies.
No shelter will ever be near these babies
What about the others? HUH? The ones that were "liberated" I bet they are all already dead, and if they are still alive, I feel sorry for them. They are starving, being attacked by predators, infested with worms from being on the ground and not being wormed, no clean water to drink, etc.
And as for all the name calling- that is really showing who is more mature and responsible and who isn't. I can hold a nice conversation without calling anybody a name or insulting them. Obviously a few people that have commented can't? Or won't?
What about the others? HUH? The ones that were "liberated" I bet they are all already dead, and if they are still alive, I feel sorry for them. They are starving, being attacked by predators, infested with worms from being on the ground and not being wormed, no clean water to drink, etc.
And as for all the name calling- that is really showing who is more mature and responsible and who isn't. I can hold a nice conversation without calling anybody a name or insulting them. Obviously a few people that have commented can't? Or won't?
ok... what part of the above post said that they raised their rabbits for meat and fur? it said that they raise them for PETS and SHOW... yes, some are raised for MEAT and FUR.... but why should we waste something that god has put on this earth for us to use? ALL OF US are going to DIE someday.... honestly... what's the difference if something dies at 8 weeks old and is used to nurish human beings, and by the way being treated as humanly as possiable until they are put down for human consumption... they are fed well, they are treated well, they get fresh water and hay every day... oh, and not all the rabbits are used for meat you know... some are kept and spoiled and used for breeding... and usually die around the age of 3 years old... so you see... they're gonna die some day anyways..... why is it such a big deal that it's earlier for some than others? besides we get a good meal out of it at the same time.... I used to raise rabbits for meat... and it is very good meat... have you ever eaten it? why are you only attacking the rabbit breeders? why not go after the people who breed pigs? the pigs are treated worse than the rabbits ever are.... or why not go after the collectors... the people who get way too many animals and starve and mistreat them? the people you are attacking are the ones that treat their animals better than most humans and would do almost anything should something happen to one.........
I dont eat animals nor wear their fur or use products tested on them. And YOU are a narcissistic nightmare. Nobody put animals on this earth for us to use. Get over that barbaric and outdated way of thinking. You use that as an EXCUSE to try and cover the fact that you care about yourself ONLY. A good meal? how sick can you be? I have to wonde about your mental state because just by your writing alone, it sounds like you are missing a few cards from your deck.
You are THE most hateful person I have ever run across. There is not one group of people you have not devalued and disrespected, in all your copious posts on this board. You are the definition of narcissistic. And, worse, in order to feel good about your self, you must trash all other people, and life styles. Oh and of course.. threaten everyone. A Bully and a Coward, in a ski mask. LOL
Your level of espoused non-violent values, is in direct inverse proportion to you seething hatred.
Your level of espoused non-violent values, is in direct inverse proportion to you seething hatred.
There are several people here, Not just me - and you for some reason love me so much you cant seem to stay away huh? You arent hiding anything though. By you saying I am hateful, its evident my truth's hit home with you and you dont like it. How sad. You lash out at me instead of doing some serious soul searching deep within yourself. Its ok, you can punch me all you want, I can take it... because Im not the one in denial, you are. Thanks for proving me right. I appreciate it!
Killing is your idea of a lifestyle? I guess you really are missing a few cards and that makes you mad...! You are so transparent!
Killing is your idea of a lifestyle? I guess you really are missing a few cards and that makes you mad...! You are so transparent!
A farmer had some puppies he needed to sell. He painted a sign advertising the 4
pups. And set about nailing it to a post on the edge of his yard. As he was
driving the last nail into the post, he felt a tug on his overalls. He looked
down into the eyes of little boy.
"Mister," he said, "I want to buy one of your puppies."
"Well," said the farmer, as he rubbed the sweat off the back of his neck, "These
puppies come from fine parents and cost a good deal of money."
The boy dropped his head for a moment. Then reaching deep into his pocket, he
pulled out a handful of change and held it up to the farmer.
"I've got thirty-nine cents. Is that enough to take a look?"
"Sure," said the farmer. And with that he let out a whistle. "Here, Dolly!" he
called. Out from the doghouse and down the ramp ran Dolly followed by four
little balls of fur.
The little boy pressed his face against the chain link fence. His eyes
danced with delight.
As the dogs made their way to the fence, the little boy noticed something else
stirring inside the doghouse. Slowly another little ball appeared this one
noticeably smaller. Down the ramp it slid. Then in a somewhat awkward manner,
the little pup began hobbling toward the others, doing its best to catch up.
"I want that one," the little boy said, pointing to the runt. The farmer knelt
down at the boy's side and said, "Son, you don't want that puppy. He will never
be able to run and play with you like these other dogs would."
With that the little boy stepped back from the fence, reached down, and began
rolling up one leg of his trousers. In doing so he revealed a steel brace
running down both sides of his leg attaching itself to a specially made shoe.
Looking back up at the farmer, he said, "You see, sir, I don't run too well
myself, and he will need someone who understands."
With tears in his eyes, the farmer reached down and picked up the little pup.
Holding it carefully he handed it to the little boy.
"How much?" asked the little boy. "No charge," answered the farmer, "there's no
charge for love."
pups. And set about nailing it to a post on the edge of his yard. As he was
driving the last nail into the post, he felt a tug on his overalls. He looked
down into the eyes of little boy.
"Mister," he said, "I want to buy one of your puppies."
"Well," said the farmer, as he rubbed the sweat off the back of his neck, "These
puppies come from fine parents and cost a good deal of money."
The boy dropped his head for a moment. Then reaching deep into his pocket, he
pulled out a handful of change and held it up to the farmer.
"I've got thirty-nine cents. Is that enough to take a look?"
"Sure," said the farmer. And with that he let out a whistle. "Here, Dolly!" he
called. Out from the doghouse and down the ramp ran Dolly followed by four
little balls of fur.
The little boy pressed his face against the chain link fence. His eyes
danced with delight.
As the dogs made their way to the fence, the little boy noticed something else
stirring inside the doghouse. Slowly another little ball appeared this one
noticeably smaller. Down the ramp it slid. Then in a somewhat awkward manner,
the little pup began hobbling toward the others, doing its best to catch up.
"I want that one," the little boy said, pointing to the runt. The farmer knelt
down at the boy's side and said, "Son, you don't want that puppy. He will never
be able to run and play with you like these other dogs would."
With that the little boy stepped back from the fence, reached down, and began
rolling up one leg of his trousers. In doing so he revealed a steel brace
running down both sides of his leg attaching itself to a specially made shoe.
Looking back up at the farmer, he said, "You see, sir, I don't run too well
myself, and he will need someone who understands."
With tears in his eyes, the farmer reached down and picked up the little pup.
Holding it carefully he handed it to the little boy.
"How much?" asked the little boy. "No charge," answered the farmer, "there's no
charge for love."
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