NO MORE STOLEN LIVES!

If you want to see a credibility, fact check of this organization check out stolenlives.org and go to SF/Bay Area In 1985, the website says, that Davin was shot and killed by police after he ran from a stolen bus into the bus yard and was cornered. The website says that the city paid $35,000 to the family for his death. WRONG. This guy is alive and well, still living in San Francisco. He was shot through the windshield while still seated on the driver seat of the bus. His family did receive a settlement of $210,000. He was later convicted of other crimes and given probation again where he was washing CHP cars and decided to steal one, where he was pulling people over in the east while acting as a CHP offocer. He was convicted again. This was all post-1985, when he was supposedly killed by SFPD. Davin did not want to be a bus driver either. He actually wanted to be a police officer. Mr Carpenter, if your going to continue to support this organization, please make sure that their facts are straight. I think their anti-police hatred has clouded their ability to provide facts. Their own website is proof of that. If the police department was putting out information that someone had been killed, who had not been, there would be outrage/marches/complaints/ranting to the police commission etc. They use the same double standard they complain about.

I don't think the above post will last long. This site does not like sneaky little facts to get in the way of their stories......lol.....

The walls were made by volunteers. The research for the Stolen Lives book was done by volunteers, and sometimes is based on people's oral reports, rather than actual articles in the newspaper or statistics given by police (in most places, they don't keep records of who dies in their custody). For some reason, it's really hard to find information about people's deaths in the custody of law enforcement. Do you think more people are killed by police, or more police are killed by civilians?

Please, email me or the national Stolen Lives Project the info and cite any articles that you can, and we should be able to correct the info about this person in future editions of the book Stolen Lives: Killed by Law Enforcement.

Thanks!

I would agree that civilians are killed by cops more often than cops killed by civilians. Answer this: How many cops killed by civilians are justifiable? I would say probably never. Whereas we pay the cops to stop the maniacs with the guns, don't we? After all, nobody else will do it. I've never heard of any civilians stopping a rampaging gunman, have you? So you can see that your arguement is off-base.
When the thugs stop carrying guns and shooting people (SF has had 220 shootings as of August, and about 300 shootings last year) then maybe the cops won't have to shoot people anymore. You will never convince me that the cops are the ones out of control when you have over 120 homicides in Oakland this year. Where is the outrage over civilian brutality? Over 9,000 handgun homicides in the US last year by civilians. Its obvious who's out of control. And as far as some state or county out there not keeping records of people who die in their custody, that's utter nonsense.